Cobbtown sport girl

Sparta, GA

#1 Sep 11, 2009
Somebody got brave.. You go Mr. Wilson...
What about the look on the President face when he said "You Lie"...Priceless.
LISA

Newark, OH

#2 Sep 13, 2009
Kodak moment right there!
GET REAL

Metter, GA

#3 Sep 15, 2009
Cobbtown sport girl wrote:
Somebody got brave.. You go Mr. Wilson...
What about the look on the President face when he said "You Lie"...Priceless.
I didn't find it brave at all, however, i did find it rude, but what else can you expect from someone like wilson. actually the look president obama had on his face, was more,"just one more republican with no class, ho hum."
Cobbtown sport girl

Sparta, GA

#4 Sep 15, 2009
GET REAL wrote:
<quoted text>I didn't find it brave at all, however, i did find it rude, but what else can you expect from someone like wilson. actually the look president obama had on his face, was more,"just one more republican with no class, ho hum."
At least the republican told the Truth!
Really

Swainsboro, GA

#5 Sep 16, 2009
Cobbtown sport girl wrote:
<quoted text>
At least the republican told the Truth!
It was rude and because of that it makes Obama look better by behaving more calm and rational. So I guess it was even more stupid than rude.
Cobbtown sport girl

Sparta, GA

#6 Sep 16, 2009
Really wrote:
<quoted text>
It was rude and because of that it makes Obama look better by behaving more calm and rational. So I guess it was even more stupid than rude.
Now we all know where he stands. Rude or Stupid as you say. No one has a misunderstanding of the words.
"You Lie"
Southern Gent

Statesboro, GA

#7 Sep 17, 2009
Obama disgracefully stood in that sacred chamber and called every person that believed his Obamacare would cover illegal immigrants a liar when he said this phrase just before the one that is quoted on television over and over: "The best example is the claim made not just by radio and cable ... Read More talk show hosts, but by prominent politicians, that we plan to set up panels of bureaucrats with the power to kill off senior citizens. Now, such a charge would be laughable if it weren't so cynical and irresponsible. It is a LIE, plain and simple."...HE brought forth the word lie. I wouldn't have done it, but he shouldn't have been so surprised. If it breached protocol for Wilson to do what he did, it certainly breached the integrity of the office of President of the United States for Obama to say what he said to infuriate his adversaries. This speech was his opportunity to sell his health care plan to a bipartisan contingency and he failed miserably. It did NOT make him look better (even when Wilson apologized), it stole his thunder. He received a 4 point approval boost in the polls that night and by Monday it was GONE...and then some! People don't want government run health care and the Socio-Liberals in this country are jamming it down our throats! Obama and the like want us to be more like Europe...don't they yell at the Prime Minister in Parliament every time they are in session? Isn't he getting what he wants?
Cobbtown sport girl

Sparta, GA

#8 Sep 18, 2009
Yea... What about when Obama said Medicare and medicaid is not going to change..LIE... We do not have a handle of it must less a bigger issue for health care.....Then telling our SENIORS they are going to be taken care of....Then Why was Medicare / Medicaid cut 3% just this year along and they that same week of the his speak, my parents gets a letter in the mail that their price for medicare / medicaid is increasing. HUH?
I had a friend that went to Washington to protest 9-12-09. He enlighted me on a thought.....Obama said if we have employee insurance now nothing will change, and if they did not offer the employer would be fined....think about this....Right now my husband pays 90% of the total mth cost for BCBS ins. cost is like 574.00 a mth and my husband pays 47.50 a week,(Employer pays $384.a mth) so if employers want to save the company money and the **ll with benfits for their employees and the fine is only like $180 per employee. which do you think they will choice....Hope i explained it so it could be understood the right way...of course employer does not have to give us an benfits package....benfits are going out the window...It's truly sad...
Black Panther

AOL

#9 Sep 23, 2009
The old farts need to pay more. They been sucking off it too long.
Cobbtown sport girl wrote:
Yea... What about when Obama said Medicare and medicaid is not going to change..LIE... We do not have a handle of it must less a bigger issue for health care.....Then telling our SENIORS they are going to be taken care of....Then Why was Medicare / Medicaid cut 3% just this year along and they that same week of the his speak, my parents gets a letter in the mail that their price for medicare / medicaid is increasing. HUH?
I had a friend that went to Washington to protest 9-12-09. He enlighted me on a thought.....Obama said if we have employee insurance now nothing will change, and if they did not offer the employer would be fined....think about this....Right now my husband pays 90% of the total mth cost for BCBS ins. cost is like 574.00 a mth and my husband pays 47.50 a week,(Employer pays $384.a mth) so if employers want to save the company money and the **ll with benfits for their employees and the fine is only like $180 per employee. which do you think they will choice....Hope i explained it so it could be understood the right way...of course employer does not have to give us an benfits package....benfits are going out the window...It's truly sad...
Black Panther

AOL

#10 Sep 23, 2009
We are jamming it all 30,000 of you rascals.
Southern Gent wrote:
Obama disgracefully stood in that sacred chamber and called every person that believed his Obamacare would cover illegal immigrants a liar when he said this phrase just before the one that is quoted on television over and over: "The best example is the claim made not just by radio and cable ... Read More talk show hosts, but by prominent politicians, that we plan to set up panels of bureaucrats with the power to kill off senior citizens. Now, such a charge would be laughable if it weren't so cynical and irresponsible. It is a LIE, plain and simple."...HE brought forth the word lie. I wouldn't have done it, but he shouldn't have been so surprised. If it breached protocol for Wilson to do what he did, it certainly breached the integrity of the office of President of the United States for Obama to say what he said to infuriate his adversaries. This speech was his opportunity to sell his health care plan to a bipartisan contingency and he failed miserably. It did NOT make him look better (even when Wilson apologized), it stole his thunder. He received a 4 point approval boost in the polls that night and by Monday it was GONE...and then some! People don't want government run health care and the Socio-Liberals in this country are jamming it down our throats! Obama and the like want us to be more like Europe...don't they yell at the Prime Minister in Parliament every time they are in session? Isn't he getting what he wants?
Cobbtown sport girl

Sparta, GA

#11 Sep 24, 2009
Black Panther wrote:
We are jamming it all 30,000 of you rascals.
<quoted text>
You are not making any sense of yourself. Say what you mean and mean what you say or shut up.
Cobbtown sport girl

Sparta, GA

#12 Sep 24, 2009
Black Panther wrote:
The old farts need to pay more. They been sucking off it too long.
<quoted text>
What old fasts are you speaking of?
I hope you're not speaking of our wonderful Seniors of this country.
Southern Gent

Statesboro, GA

#13 Sep 24, 2009
The "Old Farts" you speak of have been paying into that system their entire lives. Obamacare isn't going to leave anything for them...and many WILL die because they will have 3-8 month waits for important surgeries. Obama keeps referring to the Canadian system...the Canadian system SUCKS! Any Canadian with any money at all comes to America for important surgeries!
wait a minute

Swainsboro, GA

#14 Sep 24, 2009
those "OLD FARTS"are my parents,they have worked all of their lives WITHOUT help from the anyone,now that they can retire,it is UNFAIR for them to worry now about healthcare.they have paid their share in . ALL OF THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN THOUGHT ABOUT WHEN EVERY TOM,DICK,HARRY AND JANE WAS APPLING FOR DISABILITY AND WELFARE, alot of them are better able to work more than most but are too sorry and are looking for an easy way out.THATS WERE THE CUTS NEED TO TAKE PLACE
Miss Divine2

Winder, GA

#15 Sep 25, 2009
What I can't understand about all this is, the probelms with healthcare, social sercurity, job lost were all here before Obama.We knew socail sercurity was going broke,we knew we needed a healthcare plan and that we were terribly in debt. Now all the direspect for the office of president.(No matter how much the congress diagreed with whoever it was that was president at the time they always had the decency to show respect, even though that president might have restated his speeches differently several times).No one in congress called Nixon a liar on national television or Clinton. Now, come on our probelms just didn't begin Jan, 2009, when President Obama was sworn in, where was all this when Presidents Bush, Clinton, and so on were in office? these things didn't just all of a sudden happened, If we had stated raising all this noise back then we wouldn't be facing all these probelms with our economy now. think about it, is it really about our concerns for our nation,or is it because of who our President is?
Southern Gent

Metter, GA

#16 Sep 25, 2009
None of the Presidents you mentioned tried to spend the value of the dollar into oblivion. Our national debt, because of the aforementioned Obama, is now around 5 times what it should beÖNobody cares what color he is...if they do they probably don't have understanding enough to realize the actual severity of our dilemma. Harry Reid DID call the second President Bush a liar on national television and NEVER apologized and it was very common to boo him in his State of the Union addresses. Get over this preoccupation with race. Not everyone who thinks that he is an Ultra-Left Wing Socialist Jackass is a racist. I believe the same thing about Hillary and she is a just as white as myself.
Tim

Unadilla, GA

#17 Oct 5, 2009
You guys actually think any politician is going to tell the truth? You are all delusional. It would be easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle.

Why?

They keep you uninformed and spouting rhetoric propaganda they feed you through the media and you regurgitate it. If you seriously wanted healthcare reform and cheaper healthcare, you would start at the bottom and work your way up following the money trail.

Where does the money go? Funny you should ask.

Facility A will pay over 12,000.00 for implants required for a total knee surgery. Facility B will pay 3,500.00 for the same implants. Both facilities then bill insurance, Medicare, or Medicaid a fee, which includes the price of the surgery plus implants and profit. Hospital A charges fees based on their cost of a 12,000.00 implant and hospital b charges fees based their cost of a 3,500.00 implant. Stay with me here now. The implants are the same. The cost is not. The fees are drastically different based on unbalanced price gouging from the vendors. The government regulates reimbursement but does nothing to regulate the cost of providing health care.

If the politicians seriously wanted to fix health care, which people who make money from the current system do not want, then they would control the costs that health care has to pay to provide healthcare. Cheaper costs to provide means cheaper costs on the billing statement. Donít you see, we have a 60% socialized healthcare system already?

Is your knee any important than mine? Why should you be charged 12,000.00 for your knee implants when I am charged only 3500.00 for mine? Keep in mind also that reimbursements are fixed from Medicare and Medicaid. Facility reimbursement from Medicare and Medicaid does not fluctuate. The reimbursement is often lower than the cost of the implants to the facility.

Follow the money trail. The money trail ends with corporate health care mega millionaires like Styker, Medtronic, Arthrex, Arthrocare, Allen Medical, and countless pharmaceutical companies. These companies are the same type of people who give million dollar bonuses in one hand while receiving government bailouts in the other. Only they donít need the bailouts because they ravage the system and the consumer raking in billions at the consumer and the countryís expense.

We canít afford this. Who cares if Wilson was uncouth or if Obama lied? It does not matter. It keeps you entertained so you donít question the system, which they make money at. You listen to rhetoric and have no opinion of your own. You regurgitate what you are spoon-fed. Stop being lead around like cattle. Question the system. Question the politicians. Question why the cost of these implants, devices, and drugs are so high. Question why we pay more than the rest of the world. Stop listening to rhetoric and propaganda with a closed mind. Make a stand on principle, not on political stance.

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