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storm chaser

Paducah, KY

#43 Nov 2, 2013
Isn't Miller his boss? Who is responsible for these guys actions? Do the County Commissioners have any control over these guys running around blowing the sirens or is this a FEMA thing?
flick

Paducah, KY

#44 Nov 2, 2013
storm chaser wrote:
Isn't Miller his boss? Who is responsible for these guys actions? Do the County Commissioners have any control over these guys running around blowing the sirens or is this a FEMA thing?
I don't know where you get the idea that any one is running around setting off sirens all the time. They were only sounded 3 times in Brookport the other night for 3 minutes a piece. And they don't just continually sound, they are programmed after being triggered by the sheriff when requested for 3 minutes and shut down. There was a legit warning and a tornado warning right below Brookport. As far as who has control only the sheriffs dept and three emergency management administrators have the authority to request sounding the sirens, and to call a all clear. The procedure is on paper, a legal document that is agreed on by county officials. And yes Joe Miller is the Director, and has ultimate authority over his officers and other staff. Even the Brookport Mayor and police and fire chiefs agree it was the right thing to do. Call and ask. The county only has control of sirens in the county outside of metropolis. Metropolis is responsible for setting off all of theirs
sirens, the county has nothing to do with that.
Storm Spotter

Paducah, KY

#45 Nov 2, 2013
storm chaser wrote:
Isn't Miller his boss? Who is responsible for these guys actions? Do the County Commissioners have any control over these guys running around blowing the sirens or is this a FEMA thing?
Are you one of the old emergency management staff that was dismissed for inappropriate behavior? Have a anger and festering grudge against the agency? Your comments sound just like some one they terminated recently might say. Why stir garbage?
storm chaser

Paducah, KY

#46 Nov 2, 2013
flick wrote:
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I don't know where you get the idea that any one is running around setting off sirens all the time. They were only sounded 3 times in Brookport the other night for 3 minutes a piece. And they don't just continually sound, they are programmed after being triggered by the sheriff when requested for 3 minutes and shut down. There was a legit warning and a tornado warning right below Brookport. As far as who has control only the sheriffs dept and three emergency management administrators have the authority to request sounding the sirens, and to call a all clear. The procedure is on paper, a legal document that is agreed on by county officials. And yes Joe Miller is the Director, and has ultimate authority over his officers and other staff. Even the Brookport Mayor and police and fire chiefs agree it was the right thing to do. Call and ask. The county only has control of sirens in the county outside of metropolis. Metropolis is responsible for setting off all of theirs
sirens, the county has nothing to do with that.
So who is Miller's boss? Who do I complain to? So Miller is making the decision to blow the sirens even without a tornado warning being issued in Brookport? Sounds like Miller knows more than the National Weather Service.
Storm Spotter

Paducah, KY

#47 Nov 2, 2013
storm chaser wrote:
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So who is Miller's boss? Who do I complain to? So Miller is making the decision to blow the sirens even without a tornado warning being issued in Brookport? Sounds like Miller knows more than the National Weather Service.
e sirens are not just reserved for tornadoes only, and damageing straight line winds a severthunderstorm that has a history of producing damage, micro burst, down burst etc. anything that can be could cause severe damage or injurys. That being said, there was a tornado warning close to Brookport,less than 3 miles away and if its a close call the agency has the authority to warn even if we are not under a current tornado warning. Anticipation that one might cross into massac county is enough to sound the sirens, its called early warning, waiting till its on your door step is not the way it goes people need time to plan prepare and take shelter. just because one didn't touch down in Brookport dosent mean it wasn't warranted. a lot of times tornado sirens are sounded in the city and the county and we are not hit by a tornado. I doubt your complaint will go far considering the Brookport city officials are greatful and agree they may have needed a extra warning. Why are you trying to create problems for people who try to help the community
Storm Chaser

Paducah, KY

#48 Nov 2, 2013
Storm Spotter wrote:
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e sirens are not just reserved for tornadoes only, and damageing straight line winds a severthunderstorm that has a history of producing damage, micro burst, down burst etc. anything that can be could cause severe damage or injurys. That being said, there was a tornado warning close to Brookport,less than 3 miles away and if its a close call the agency has the authority to warn even if we are not under a current tornado warning. Anticipation that one might cross into massac county is enough to sound the sirens, its called early warning, waiting till its on your door step is not the way it goes people need time to plan prepare and take shelter. just because one didn't touch down in Brookport dosent mean it wasn't warranted. a lot of times tornado sirens are sounded in the city and the county and we are not hit by a tornado. I doubt your complaint will go far considering the Brookport city officials are greatful and agree they may have needed a extra warning. Why are you trying to create problems for people who try to help the community
Why won't you answer my question? Who is Millers boss? Did Brookport officials say it's OK to blow the sirens without a tornado warning being issued from the National Weather Service? Which Brookport officials said that? The sirens have always been for tornados, did Miller change it without telling anyone? It appears to me that Miller is the one who is creating problems by blowing the sirens on his own. I want to know who Miller works for and who holds him accountable for his actions.
Storm Spotter

Paducah, KY

#49 Nov 2, 2013
He (JOE) did not sound the sirens, and for the past decade the ability to sound the siren during a serious weather emergency even when its not a tornado has been done if its dangerous and can hurt some one or damage property. Where have you been? The national weather service works with the spotters because they cant see everything on their radar. a trained spotter saw rotation near the smoke shop. that's enough. You don't know what your talking abt. you must want Joes job. Im through explaining to some one so close minded all the facts have been typed out for you, as far Brookport officials, I already told you that. I forgot this is topix, home to a lot of trouble makers, other good people just read this out of curiosity. but you are a trouble maker. figure it out for your self. its been explained to you in detail. I cant help you open your mind to common sense - over and OUT
storm chaser

Paducah, KY

#50 Nov 2, 2013
Storm Spotter wrote:
He (JOE) did not sound the sirens, and for the past decade the ability to sound the siren during a serious weather emergency even when its not a tornado has been done if its dangerous and can hurt some one or damage property. Where have you been? The national weather service works with the spotters because they cant see everything on their radar. a trained spotter saw rotation near the smoke shop. that's enough. You don't know what your talking abt. you must want Joes job. Im through explaining to some one so close minded all the facts have been typed out for you, as far Brookport officials, I already told you that. I forgot this is topix, home to a lot of trouble makers, other good people just read this out of curiosity. but you are a trouble maker. figure it out for your self. its been explained to you in detail. I cant help you open your mind to common sense - over and OUT
They never had these problems when Larry Douglas was here. You figure it out!
storm chaser

Paducah, KY

#51 Nov 2, 2013
if miller didn't tell them to blow the siren, who did? did the spotter report this rotation to the national weather service? why didn't the national weather service issue a warning based on the spotter report? do the brookport alderman know the mayor said it was ok to blow the siren without a tornado warning being issued? do the alderman agree with the mayor? it looks to me like these people are running around playing games without supervision. i bet fema doesn't know this is going on.
Kingpin

United States

#52 Nov 3, 2013
Storm Chaser wrote:
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Why won't you answer my question? Who is Millers boss? Did Brookport officials say it's OK to blow the sirens without a tornado warning being issued from the National Weather Service? Which Brookport officials said that? The sirens have always been for tornados, did Miller change it without telling anyone? It appears to me that Miller is the one who is creating problems by blowing the sirens on his own. I want to know who Miller works for and who holds him accountable for his actions.
The County Commissioners would be Miller's boss. So, if you have a beef with him you need to talk to the Commissioners instead of just posting trash talk on here in reference to him. As far as the sirens go the dispatcher was notified when the dangerr was past to shut down the sirens, she chose to continue sounding the alarm. Bottom line is this, both the city and county need to put their peckers away and write a policy pertaining to sirens that applies to both of them. There is no I in team.
Kingpin

United States

#53 Nov 3, 2013
If you don't get results from the Commissioners then contact IEMA and I am sure they will deal with the situation.

Todays weather forecast: Cloudy with a chance of falling meatballs
guest

United States

#54 Nov 4, 2013
I say all of you meet up someplace and argue it out in person. Topix is addictive! Storm chaser is gonna stroke out trying to get a answer.
just the facts

Paducah, KY

#55 Nov 5, 2013
Storm chaser is most likely Kay Henson, or Steven Parmely , let go or resigned due to inappropriate behavior, or dissatisfaction that they didn't get Joe Millers Job. And your right who ever it is is about to have a stroke, terribly over excited and irrational

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