Garrison to stay as sheriff

Garrison to stay as sheriff

There are 38 comments on the Las Cruces Sun-News story from Nov 3, 2010, titled Garrison to stay as sheriff. In it, Las Cruces Sun-News reports that:

Incumbent Dona Ana County Sheriff Todd Garrison had a strong lead over Democratic challenger Juan "J.R." Stewart at press time Tuesday.

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Un Happy Voter

Rio Rancho, NM

#22 Nov 3, 2010
Rob Roy wrote:
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I know the name says "Un Happy Voter" but the stupidity reeks of LCV and so does the LOW IQ. Here's your spelling lesson for the day UNHAPPY is all one word no "un happy".
WOW YOU ARE REALLY CRAZY, ALL YOU PEOPLE ARE FULL OF SHIT, WHEN SOMETHING LIKE THIS MAKES YOU GO CRAZY.
Realistic in a REAL world

Albuquerque, NM

#23 Nov 3, 2010
Like I stated before.....let the whining begin.....Straight tickets, coat tails, class on the part of JR Stewart is completely laughable......Guess he shouldn't have been afraid to test for corporal, sergeant and lieutenant when at the LCPD....WAIT maybe he knew his limits.....Might make a good platform for another election outside of law enforcement. "I know my limits" Give me a break!!!! JR lost more votes because people DO KNOW him!
Sheriff Garrison kicked butt and no ignorant remarks and sidestepping can deny this!(just curious how other democrats got elected if there was so much "straight ticket" voting going on. Try to explain that one......
Realistic in a REAL world

Albuquerque, NM

#24 Nov 3, 2010
TIME FOR CHANGE wrote:
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Can you say retalliation? The truth hurts doesn't it Sheriff Garrison, I too agree you won because alot of people voted a straight ticket to get Susana Martinez in. As for your "undersheriff Lerma", does he know he was about the 6th person you asked to be his under because everybody else you asked didn't want to be associated with you...things that make you go hmmmmm!
Guess ya didnt get asked......sucks to be you
Pobre

Santa Fe, NM

#25 Nov 3, 2010
And wild willy will ride off in to the sunset...ahhh yeah baby!!

“Close the Borders”

Since: Jun 08

Out in the County

#26 Nov 3, 2010
My question for JR Stewart: SInce you became the union representative, how much time have you actually spend in police work?
TOPGUN

Las Cruces, NM

#27 Nov 3, 2010
It was a laugher that a Traffic Investigator would even
consider trying to be a Sheriff - it could only happen
in Dona Ana County....

31 years of Patrolman duties, no management experience,
not much higher education and he is gonna run a large
county Sheriffs Dept operation bordering Mexico.

Next comic book please.
Winners and Losers

Rio Rancho, NM

#28 Nov 3, 2010
Theres a win column and a loss column. The voters have spoken and JR was a....LOSS! Nothing else matters. JR got SPANKED worse than any other Sheriff race and should consider this before thinking of trying again. I heard it put this way when talking about JR's vast amount of experience for the position: JR had one year of experience, repeated 31 times.
Why

United States

#29 Nov 3, 2010
Realistic in a REAL world wrote:
Like I stated before.....let the whining begin.....Straight tickets, coat tails, class on the part of JR Stewart is completely laughable......Guess he shouldn't have been afraid to test for corporal, sergeant and lieutenant when at the LCPD....WAIT maybe he knew his limits.....Might make a good platform for another election outside of law enforcement. "I know my limits" Give me a break!!!! JR lost more votes because people DO KNOW him!
Sheriff Garrison kicked butt and no ignorant remarks and sidestepping can deny this!(just curious how other democrats got elected if there was so much "straight ticket" voting going on. Try to explain that one......
I don't know him, but after the debate on Sunday morning - he hung himself - gave it all to Garrison.
Domitian

United States

#30 Nov 3, 2010
Those of you smacking JR around for never promoting have no idea how police work is done. The only cops that promote are the ones that either dislike being real cops, need a higher salary, have huge egos, or all of the above. There are some good supervisors but most were fairly poor cops. There are, of course, exceptions. Basically, promoting above officer is the end of being a cop. Sergeants tell officers what to do. Lieutenants are paper pushers who occasionally tell sergeants what to do. Above that there are administrators with their handcuffs rusted shut. Maybe JR just wasn't sick of being a cop.....
deadeye

United States

#31 Nov 4, 2010
Domitian wrote:
Those of you smacking JR around for never promoting have no idea how police work is done. The only cops that promote are the ones that either dislike being real cops, need a higher salary, have huge egos, or all of the above. There are some good supervisors but most were fairly poor cops. There are, of course, exceptions. Basically, promoting above officer is the end of being a cop. Sergeants tell officers what to do. Lieutenants are paper pushers who occasionally tell sergeants what to do. Above that there are administrators with their handcuffs rusted shut. Maybe JR just wasn't sick of being a cop.....
If this is true, that would make cops a lot like nurses.
muddpuppy

United States

#32 Nov 4, 2010
Domitian wrote:
Those of you smacking JR around for never promoting have no idea how police work is done. The only cops that promote are the ones that either dislike being real cops, need a higher salary, have huge egos, or all of the above. There are some good supervisors but most were fairly poor cops. There are, of course, exceptions. Basically, promoting above officer is the end of being a cop. Sergeants tell officers what to do. Lieutenants are paper pushers who occasionally tell sergeants what to do. Above that there are administrators with their handcuffs rusted shut. Maybe JR just wasn't sick of being a cop.....
You are obviously confused by the difference between police work and police administration which is a completely different and unique animal.

Apparently he is "sick of being a cop" as you put it since he was wanting to be the top administrator for the sheriffs department. It just seems that he wanted to get there without having to learn how to be a manager. The Sheriff's Department is not a co-op, its like any other moderate to large size corporation: has management and employees. Management is promoted from within, and there are different levels of it. Police borrow their organization and structure from the military. JR's becoming sheriff is analogous to a 31 year E-4 wanting to be appointed as a Joint Chief of Staff. In the military you have to work your way to the top, just like in any cop shop in this great land. Every time you move up the ranks you are armed with skills, more information and training that the lower ranks, grunts if you will, are not privy to.
31 years of service is quite an accomplishment and is applauded and appreciated by many including me. However from the times I've talked to him, the times I've seen him debate and give speeches it is more than obvious that he is not qualified to be a manager. Not because of anything sinister in his character or otherwise, but because he knows next to nothing about management or administration and thinks like a grunt, not to mention glaring naiveté about grants and community policing. The only reason he had ANY chance is because Sheriff is an elected position so any yahoo could conceivably get the job, unlike a Chief who is appointed and has to have qualifications to get the job such as education and experience in management. If he wasn't qualified to be chief of the department he has worked for for 3 decades, how in the hell does that make him the right man for the job in an agency with near identical size, budget and mission? It my mind it doesn't.
The point is that the lack of knowledge, experience and education in management on Stewarts part, as well as the fact that he didn't even try to get any knowledge, training or experience, swung some of our votes to Garrison.

Since: Aug 10

Las Cruces, NM

#33 Nov 4, 2010
muddpuppy wrote:
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You are obviously confused by the difference between police work and police administration which is a completely different and unique animal.
Apparently he is "sick of being a cop" as you put it since he was wanting to be the top administrator for the sheriffs department. It just seems that he wanted to get there without having to learn how to be a manager. The Sheriff's Department is not a co-op, its like any other moderate to large size corporation: has management and employees. Management is promoted from within, and there are different levels of it. Police borrow their organization and structure from the military. JR's becoming sheriff is analogous to a 31 year E-4 wanting to be appointed as a Joint Chief of Staff. In the military you have to work your way to the top, just like in any cop shop in this great land. Every time you move up the ranks you are armed with skills, more information and training that the lower ranks, grunts if you will, are not privy to.
31 years of service is quite an accomplishment and is applauded and appreciated by many including me. However from the times I've talked to him, the times I've seen him debate and give speeches it is more than obvious that he is not qualified to be a manager. Not because of anything sinister in his character or otherwise, but because he knows next to nothing about management or administration and thinks like a grunt, not to mention glaring naiveté about grants and community policing. The only reason he had ANY chance is because Sheriff is an elected position so any yahoo could conceivably get the job, unlike a Chief who is appointed and has to have qualifications to get the job such as education and experience in management. If he wasn't qualified to be chief of the department he has worked for for 3 decades, how in the hell does that make him the right man for the job in an agency with near identical size, budget and mission? It my mind it doesn't.
The point is that the lack of knowledge, experience and education in management on Stewarts part, as well as the fact that he didn't even try to get any knowledge, training or experience, swung some of our votes to Garrison.
Ok. I am not "confused" about the difference between supervision and field work. I think I explained it quite well. You are obviously confused as to the intent of my post. It should be said that the Sheriff had little or no supervison experience when he was originally appointed.
LCV

AOL

#34 Nov 4, 2010
Rob Roy wrote:
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I know the name says "Un Happy Voter" but the stupidity reeks of LCV and so does the LOW IQ. Here's your spelling lesson for the day UNHAPPY is all one word no "un happy".
I must be your worst nightmare. You're so afraid of me that you change your name frequently (along with your dripping panties) and imagine that I am everywhere on every post. BE AFRAID BE VERY AFRAID, Stupid zero.
wow

Albuquerque, NM

#38 Nov 6, 2010
Do you really believe what you say?
Domitian wrote:
Those of you smacking JR around for never promoting have no idea how police work is done. The only cops that promote are the ones that either dislike being real cops, need a higher salary, have huge egos, or all of the above. There are some good supervisors but most were fairly poor cops. There are, of course, exceptions. Basically, promoting above officer is the end of being a cop. Sergeants tell officers what to do. Lieutenants are paper pushers who occasionally tell sergeants what to do. Above that there are administrators with their handcuffs rusted shut. Maybe JR just wasn't sick of being a cop.....
Walt Garrison

El Paso, TX

#39 Nov 6, 2010
Walt Garrison;

One of the Dallas Cowboys best known fullbacks
of the Staubach era.

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Wait & see on this Todd person.

No he is not family.
Winners and Losers

Rio Rancho, NM

#40 Nov 7, 2010
TIME FOR CHANGE wrote:
I really hope Sheriff Garrison sees how many people tried to get him out of office and changes the way he conducts business (or rather the way he lets the Lts. conduct business). Also he has to remember there is always.....VOTE OF NO CONFIDENCE that can be brought against him and hope this is done this time!
Based on recent history during the presidential campaign where everyone was screaming for "change"....we sure got it in this Country. So how is that "change" working for everyone now? So everyone who is clamoring for change may not realize that change isn't necessarily about changing leaders, but instead being responsible for what we do have and working together to make things better for all. We can't please everyone, but standing on the platform and yelling "we need change" is pretty pathetic at this point too. I'm sure Sheriff Garrison will continue to do the good work he is set to do.
Get a Clue

Rio Rancho, NM

#41 Nov 7, 2010
Domitian wrote:
<quoted text>Ok. I am not "confused" about the difference between supervision and field work. I think I explained it quite well. You are obviously confused as to the intent of my post. It should be said that the Sheriff had little or no supervison experience when he was originally appointed.
Basically your statement is saying "I'm a hero in my own mind." or "In my own mind I have some intelligence." GEEZ....

Since: Aug 10

Las Cruces, NM

#43 Nov 9, 2010
Get a Clue wrote:
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Basically your statement is saying "I'm a hero in my own mind." or "In my own mind I have some intelligence." GEEZ....
What are you talking about? I made no personal statements. I merely stated what the rank structure at the PD is. Supervisors do little or no police work. Ask any cop and they will agree. Tell where you think my delusions of grandeur are so I can address them. If not, troll somewhere else.

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