New Mexico's highest court rules same...

New Mexico's highest court rules same-sex marriage legal

There are 44 comments on the Silver City Sun-News story from Dec 19, 2013, titled New Mexico's highest court rules same-sex marriage legal. In it, Silver City Sun-News reports that:

Happy newlyweds join hands at the Dona Ana County Government Center on Thursday after receiving their marriage licenses and celebrating equality after their weddings in Las Cruces.

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“US Navy”

Since: Jan 10

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#22 Dec 23, 2013
Lobo Viejo wrote:
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CD, I have a hard time believing that you, who seems to favor a less intrusive government, would want to legislate morality.
I'm not in favor of legislating morality, I never said that. You and Silk are intentionally redirecting my comments for arguments sake, no doubt like you will this one.

I do not agree with SSM, nor will I ever. This has nothing to do with the government, and little if anything to do with religion. I do NOT agree with SSM, period, regardless of what the government/courts/people say or do. Just because I accept that the law allows it doesn't mean I embrace/like it, it simply means I'll abide it. Is that concept that difficult for people to understand/accept? Does every issue facing us always have to be 100% agree/disagree, is there no compromise - not in the law but in my view of the issue overall?

“26.2”

Since: Feb 08

Santa Fe, NM

#23 Dec 23, 2013
CornDogz wrote:
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I'm not in favor of legislating morality, I never said that. You and Silk are intentionally redirecting my comments for arguments sake, no doubt like you will this one.
I do not agree with SSM, nor will I ever. This has nothing to do with the government, and little if anything to do with religion. I do NOT agree with SSM, period, regardless of what the government/courts/people say or do. Just because I accept that the law allows it doesn't mean I embrace/like it, it simply means I'll abide it. Is that concept that difficult for people to understand/accept? Does every issue facing us always have to be 100% agree/disagree, is there no compromise - not in the law but in my view of the issue overall?
The context of this thread is legislation, litigation and interpretation of the law by the Supreme Court. If you were simply expressing your personal opinion of SSM, but agree that Article II Section 18 of the NM State Constitution, right or wrong, is the law of the land, then please accept my apology.

But you can't deny that objections to homosexual lifestyle and SSM are almost always based on morality and often based on religion. Efforts to outlaw SSM are not only attempts to legislate morality, but are also contradictory to the civil rights and equal protection laws that Congress and most state legislatures passed many years ago.

It should come as no surprise that the courts are striking down anti-SSM laws as unconstitutional, and are ruling that SSM is a civil or equal protection right. Don't blame the courts, that's what our federal and state constitutions already provide for! If you want to legalize bigotry, then change the constitution.

“Each Thought Creates A Reality”

Since: Nov 08

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#24 Dec 23, 2013
Come on. To think that Homophobia, especially among men, is due to religion and morality is missing the boat. Peer pressure. Being a minority. Outside the non-religious non-morality driven hetero society. Advertising. And look at the Administration's stereotype with condom parties and get health care because of STD's/promiscuity concerns. Seems that the negative stereotypes cannot be placed solely on the Fun Damn Mentalists.

“26.2”

Since: Feb 08

Santa Fe, NM

#25 Dec 23, 2013
Willothewisp wrote:
Come on. To think that Homophobia, especially among men, is due to religion and morality is missing the boat. Peer pressure. Being a minority. Outside the non-religious non-morality driven hetero society. Advertising. And look at the Administration's stereotype with condom parties and get health care because of STD's/promiscuity concerns. Seems that the negative stereotypes cannot be placed solely on the Fun Damn Mentalists.
It will probably be a long time before we see a gay episode of Duck Dynasty, although some of the characters in that series look like they could have been in the movie Deliverance. And it will also be a long time before we see male gay, bisexual and transgender NFL cheerleaders.

But the forces seeking to legislate against SSM are largely driven by their version of what morality should be.

“US Navy”

Since: Jan 10

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#26 Dec 23, 2013
Lobo Viejo wrote:
<quoted text>...Don't blame the courts, that's what our federal and state constitutions already provide for! If you want to legalize bigotry, then change the constitution.
Hmmm, I didn't assign blame so your comment is moot. And now that I don't agree with you I'm a bigot. Looks like independent thought and opinions are not bad things now. You embrace the gay lifestyle, I don't. Bigotry runs both directions... Whatever!

“26.2”

Since: Feb 08

Santa Fe, NM

#27 Dec 23, 2013
CornDogz wrote:
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Hmmm, I didn't assign blame so your comment is moot. And now that I don't agree with you I'm a bigot. Looks like independent thought and opinions are not bad things now. You embrace the gay lifestyle, I don't. Bigotry runs both directions... Whatever!
What you disagree with is the equal protection language that New Mexico citizens voted to put into our state Constitution in 1972 (became effective in 1973).

I was taught to respect and obey our Constitution and statutes. If upholding the law for gays makes me a bigot in your eyes, then so be it.

I find it unconscionable that there will now be homophobe legislation to amend our Constitution to begin chipping away at the long-standing right that "all persons" in the state have for equal protection. New Mexico remains near the top of the list for poverty and near the bottom of the list for education and child welfare. Why don't you Republicans focus on some real issues and let the gays live in peace?

“26.2”

Since: Feb 08

Santa Fe, NM

#30 Dec 23, 2013
merle wrote:
It is unfortunate in the U.S. that we are no longer governed by our elected representatives, but by the Imperium of Judges.
Perhaps you should go do some homework on the executive and legislative branches of government and come back to Topix when you are less likely to embarrass yourself with ignorance.

“US Navy”

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#32 Dec 24, 2013
Call me names if you wish and interpret what I say to conform with your views, however nothing will change my mind. I do NOT agree with the concept SSM nor will I ever.

The other problem here is you acceptors of the SSM lifestyle cannot TOLERATE those who do not agree with you.
Horace

United States

#33 Dec 24, 2013
CornDogz wrote:
Call me names if you wish and interpret what I say to conform with your views, however nothing will change my mind. I do NOT agree with the concept SSM nor will I ever.
The other problem here is you acceptors of the SSM lifestyle cannot TOLERATE those who do not agree with you.
Changing "embracers of SSM" to "acceptors of SSM"? Hm, tricky, tricky.

“26.2”

Since: Feb 08

Santa Fe, NM

#34 Dec 24, 2013
CornDogz wrote:
Call me names if you wish and interpret what I say to conform with your views, however nothing will change my mind. I do NOT agree with the concept SSM nor will I ever.
The other problem here is you acceptors of the SSM lifestyle cannot TOLERATE those who do not agree with you.
I have no problem whatsoever with anyone who voices their disapproval of the gay lifestyle and SSM.

But I have a HUGE problem when that disapproval evolves into legislation to take basic human rights away from any group of Americans.

It's OK to disapprove of the Muslim faith, but it's wrong and illegal to disallow Muslims to practice their faith. And this is not an issue that should be put out to referendum so voters can legalize their bigotry on a local scale.

Ditto for the rights of gay people. Our state and federal constitutions protect the rights of all Americans, including gays. And this freedom is one of many things that differentiates the USA from places like Iran that are governed by barbaric turd-brained religious fanatics.
I have

Albuquerque, NM

#35 Dec 24, 2013
to agree with dogz here, he's expressing an opinion and you all are attacking him for it. I have no problem with him disagreeing but it sure seems that others do.

“Eys so hendsum!”

Since: Jun 09

Ol' Juarez

#38 Dec 28, 2013
evinkener wrote:
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Might I reply respectfully that you and your Ilk boldly proclaim that you have been righteously freed from the chains of Catholicism and Christianity, whilst you simultaneously pay an obescience to muslim perfidy that even an obdurate cur would eschew.
Lobo is not of any particular religion, but has respect for others beliefs. As for myself, I have told you before that I am Catholic. I will never change my religious beliefs, but I do not always necessarily agree with what the church says. It teaches that God loved everyone, that we are all His children, we are all created in His image, yet many times it has taught that not everyone fits. Pope Francis is bringing his flock back to the true meaning of love and respect for everyone.
Davy

United States

#39 Dec 28, 2013
Big words and a small mind. Do you really think Islam is interested in gay rights? Different religion but the same hate filled fanatics
evinkener wrote:
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Might I reply respectfully that you and your Ilk boldly proclaim that you have been righteously freed from the chains of Catholicism and Christianity, whilst you simultaneously pay an obescience to muslim perfidy that even an obdurate cur would eschew.

“26.2”

Since: Feb 08

Santa Fe, NM

#40 Dec 30, 2013
evinkener wrote:
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Might I reply respectfully that you and your Ilk boldly proclaim that you have been righteously freed from the chains of Catholicism and Christianity, whilst you simultaneously pay an obescience to muslim perfidy that even an obdurate cur would eschew.
Those are pretty big words to be coming from a mind as small as yours. I am neither Catholic, Christian, Muslim, nor of any other religion. But I will defend the right of any American to peacefully and lawfully practice whatever religion they subscribe to.
Alrighty Now

United States

#41 Dec 31, 2013
evinkener wrote:
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Might I reply respectfully that you and your Ilk boldly proclaim that you have been righteously freed from the chains of Catholicism and Christianity, whilst you simultaneously pay an obescience to muslim perfidy that even an obdurate cur would eschew.
Don't you hate it when yer cur eschews yer shoes.
davy

Albuquerque, NM

#43 Dec 31, 2013
How many times did you have to flush to get all that out?
evinkener wrote:
New Mexico's highest court is filled with bundled stalks of straw.
They are a passel of affirmative action hacks, trundled up and plopped upon the door of the electorate like so much lumps of coal, or sticks in a cold stocking.
They sing the frigid Zeitgeist of the Age as if they were happy sparrows about to be flung to the woodpile.
These so-called jurists give us no more guidance than an X-ray of your foot could tell you your shoe size in 1950.

“Each Thought Creates A Reality”

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#45 Jan 1, 2014
And that ladies and gentleman is a good example of reaction formation

"He struck it to crush the crawfish with his stick.

But he really wished to smack the face of his sister. "

“I ain't afraid of no ghosts.”

Since: Aug 08

Dear old mucky Drasnia

#46 Jan 1, 2014
Quick question, Joey. What has changed since here?

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/agua-fria-nm/...

“26.2”

Since: Feb 08

Santa Fe, NM

#47 Jan 1, 2014
Silk_the_Absent1 wrote:
Quick question, Joey. What has changed since here?
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/agua-fria-nm/...
Joseph really went off the deep end later in 2012 when his anti-Christ got re-elected.

“I ain't afraid of no ghosts.”

Since: Aug 08

Dear old mucky Drasnia

#48 Jan 5, 2014
It would seem that life isn't quite as black and white as he claims.

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