Moving to Las Cruces
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Glen

Chicago, IL

#1 Apr 9, 2007
I may be moving from Chicago to Las Cruces NM this June. I don't really know much about Las Cruces or the SouthWest (I've never been). I will either be moving to Las Cruces or Seattle and will have to decide in the next couple weeks. I was excepted to graduate programs in both places.

I have heard there are lots of snakes in Southern NM. I have a dog that I like to take on lots of walks. How cautious would I have to be about my dog being bitten by a poisonous snake?

I enjoy the outdoors (camping, hiking, boating, etc.) Do people do these activities around Las Cruces?

How is the nightlife (restuarants & bars)?

I have heard some good things about cost of living for the area. I'm currently paying almost $1200 a month for a small crappy apartment. When I checked some real estate sites for Las Cruces I found many large apartments between $600 and $800.

Any advise people can give me would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Glen

“THE BENEVOLENT CON”

Since: Mar 07

LOS ANGELES now LAS CRUCES, NM

#2 Apr 11, 2007
Hi Glen...

Welcome to Las Cruces.... I think. Las Cruces is a comfy, bedroom community.

There is a day life... but nightlife is next to nothing. Most people travel to El Paso, TX, which is just 50 mikes away for any kind of nightlife.

Las Cruces does have some very good restaurants, and there are days when we celebrate historical or customs, but very few and far in between.

The people are conservative. Most go to church on Sunday, then forget what they learned and return to old habits.

This is a very judgmental community, and the local press (Las Cruces Sun News) is as conservative as they come comes.

Over all, the prices are very low compared to Seattle or any large metro city. Homes here are very low. For instance, a four bedroom two story home, brand news cost $178K. Taxes and utilities are extremely high.

Drivers are as careless as in New York and lack human courtesy.

The politicians as in most cities promise many things yet don't deliver.

Crime is very low. If arrested, beware. You will be treated as "guilty until proven innocent." I kid you not.

Movie Theaters are plenty. Bowling: we have only one bowling alley.

Chain restaurants are plenty.

NMSU is a good place to go to school, but if you ask the students.. Las Cruces is boring, and most students quickly hop in their cars and head for points south.(El Paso)

Why do I live here? I like the prices of homes. I like the very slow pace, and I like the fact that there is a big city close by if I want to go, or 300 miles away Albuquerque and it southwestern beauty is a wonderful place to be.

Overall, I left Los Angeles last May for Las Cruces and I think I made a wise decision financially. It is a great place to retire, but if you are young... well... Seattle may look better.

Cost of living:
Las Cruces: Cheap living
Seattle: Expensive

People:
Boring and hypocritical. An ALL for me and NONE for you mentality

News Media:
Las Cruces New Press - Horribly judgmental
The Las Cruces Bulletin - Liberal and Wonderful

Home Prices:
Las Cruces: Extremely LOW
Seattle: Extremely HIGH

Apartment Rentals:
Las Cruces: Low and comfy
Seattle: High and expensive

The Arts:
Las Cruces: Great Orchestra and few theatrical programs
Seattle: Wonderfully full of everything

Ask me some questions... I will tell you no lies.

[email protected]

Glen

Chicago, IL

#3 Apr 12, 2007
Thank you very much for your reply. I found it very useful. I do have a few other random questions about las cruces. I've seen a few pictures of the Rio Grande, in some pictures it looks narrow and shallow, and in other pictures it looks like you could go motorboating on it.

1. How is the Rio Grande in the Las Cruces area? Do people Swim in it, fish it it, etc.?

Also, I'm a little scarred about all of the snakes I've been reading about in New Mexico.

2. Are the snakes really a problem? Would I be able to walk my dog off lease in certain areas?

3. Would you recommend living in Mesilla over Las Cruces if I were attending New Mexico State University? Is Mesilla far?

4. My girlfriend will be a recent law school grad when we move, would it be hard for her to find a job?

Thanks,

Glen Mathis
[email protected]

Glen

Chicago, IL

#4 Apr 12, 2007
Just checked out your profile. Looks like you've lived a very interesting and fun life. I'll look for your special on Dateline NBC.
Not A Realtor

United States

#5 Apr 28, 2007
Snakes rule here. Dogs must be leashed at all times per state law. Veterinarians do offer a rattlesnake vaccine for your dog. All the other snakes are harmless. The city has just recieved state money to build a dog park.

What most people won't tell you is that the Rio Grande only flows in the summer at the will of the government and for the benefit of the farmers. You can't boat on it, swim at your own risk, I wouldn't touch it or eat fish out of it. However, about an hour north is the dam and lake where you can boat and swim, etc. The spring winds are horrible, up to 55 mph today. If you suffer from allergies this is not the place for you. It only rains, let me re-phrase, pours during July and August, our monsoon season. So make sure your housing is "on high ground".

I'm not at all sure what Mr. Brito refers to when he says taxes are high here. I was raised back east where my mothers taxes were around $3500 a yr, I pay $350 a year.

I've lived here for 37 years. I stay because I hate snow. The crime rate is low, depending on the area you choose to live.

The cops are like cops everywhere, so what if they treat you like your guilty, they are not the judge and jury. Only criminals need beware.

There is a very strong cultural bias here and resistance to change. Prices for housing, groceries, gas, just about everything have skyrocketed in the last two years and most jobs do not pay anything near what that same job would elsewhere.

Most of our growth is a result of retirees moving in. They could sell their home in Calif. or NY for $500,000 and then come here and buy a bigger one for half the price and do rather well. But the market is catching up to that. Now is probably as good a time as any to move here should you decide to do so if you plan to see any immediate equity.

Best of luck in making such an important decision.

“THE BENEVOLENT CON”

Since: Mar 07

LOS ANGELES now LAS CRUCES, NM

#6 Apr 29, 2007
NOT A REALTOR SAID: "The cops are like cops everywhere, so what if they treat you like your guilty, they are not the judge and jury. Only criminals need beware."

I ASSURE YOU, WHEN IT HAPPENS TO YOU,(CONTACT WITH THE POLICE) AND I HOPE THAT YOU DON'T... YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS SUBJECT WILL IMMEDIATELY IF NOT INSTANTLY CHANGE. YOU JUST HAVE POSSIBLY NOT HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXPERIENCE POLICE ACTION BEFORE.

YOUR STATEMENT, "SO WHAT IF THEY (THE COPS) TREAT YOU LIKE YOU ARE GUILTY...."

HUMMM, SEEMS A BIT IGNORANT IN MY VIEW.

sun lover

Tularosa, NM

#7 Jun 21, 2007
I have lived in LC or many years. I am a Seattlite! If you want an abundance of boating and culture - Seattle If you like being outside LC There is a culture of art and music if you look i wouldn't be parinoid about the snakes. Snake bites are not that common! Which school offers the best educational program for you? UW is huge! NMSU is smaller Traffic is horrible in Seattle. LC no comparison
Seattle great cusine and great fresh produce LC limited in comparision to Seattle.
Much more sunlight in LC and longer days Mostly down here yu don't have to plan around the weather. LC hasa bad windy season in the spring, Seattle long dark days in the winter can't beat Seattle's weather in the summer (going boating in August with friends)

good luck!
A M I R

Fremont, CA

#8 Aug 7, 2009
Hi
I am just moving to las cruces
I need info about living expenses in las cruces
rentals
groceries
and the snake do they come into the house
Anthony

Las Cruces, NM

#9 Oct 13, 2009
Im pretty sure I have lived in Las Cruces all my life. Not ONCE have I seen a live snake unless it's smashed on the road. I live in the East Mesa development pretty much in the desert, and not once have I seen a snake. The people here are great. It's just right in between a big metro city, and a town. Heck Mesilla is right down the street if Las Cruces is too big, or too full of crime. I think it is a great community not just for retirees, but for families. There's always something to do.
Jack

Farmington, NM

#10 Oct 19, 2009
Glen wrote:
I may be moving from Chicago to Las Cruces NM this June. I don't really know much about Las Cruces or the SouthWest (I've never been). I will either be moving to Las Cruces or Seattle and will have to decide in the next couple weeks. I was excepted to graduate programs in both places.
I have heard there are lots of snakes in Southern NM. I have a dog that I like to take on lots of walks. How cautious would I have to be about my dog being bitten by a poisonous snake?
I enjoy the outdoors (camping, hiking, boating, etc.) Do people do these activities around Las Cruces?
How is the nightlife (restuarants & bars)?
I have heard some good things about cost of living for the area. I'm currently paying almost $1200 a month for a small crappy apartment. When I checked some real estate sites for Las Cruces I found many large apartments between $600 and $800.
Any advise people can give me would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Glen
Dark ages no culture extremly corrupted, cops dealing drugs, over 100 degrees for 3 months a year, nothing to do, but eat and sleep,no night life, no day life, cheap apartements , becouse nobody wants to be here, wages from about 30 years ago, Run before it's too late. Stay in US
Jack

Farmington, NM

#11 Oct 19, 2009
A M I R wrote:
Hi
I am just moving to las cruces
I need info about living expenses in las cruces
rentals
groceries
and the snake do they come into the house
it's cheap and not worth much either...sorry little crap hole no culture, the rudest, dumbest , most crooked and lazy yet naive people I ever met Soon we'll be glad to go back to US
Robert

Las Cruces, NM

#12 Nov 14, 2009
Gotta agree with the snake comment. I have lived here 18 years now and the only snakes I've seen are ones at the pet store. Rattlesnakes are the only poisonous ones here and even if you were terribly unfortunate enough to run into one, vets have a vaccine that fights Rattlesnake poison. All other snakes are wimpy and a bunch don't even have fangs. Your dog, even if it was a Chihuahua, would probably treat the snakes as play toys.

As for housing, it's extremely cheap.

I'm a student at NMSU and it's not as boring as everyone else here says it is. There are tons of organizations to get involved with and most of them are throwing parties left and right. I've been here for about a year now and have yet to be bored out of my mind, because if I am, I send about 3 text messages to 3 people asking if anything is going on, and usually all 3 will give me an option. All in all, the college is pretty tight. People get along well, aside from the few frats who's soul purpose is to be jerks, and you can make friends very, very easily.

If I had to complain about anything here, it's that the weather is pretty annoying. I've got allergies so the winds in spring kick my butt. Summer is pretty hot... Allll the time.

So to sum it up: your dog will be just fine, make friends and you won't get bored with day life or night life, this is a good place for hiking because we are SURROUNDED by mountains, and although our lakes and rivers aren't the cleanest things in the world, if you're not a paranoid little baby you can boat in them. They even have an annual event where you build your own raft and go down the Rio in a 'race' sorta thing.
North Mexico

Farmington, NM

#13 Nov 14, 2009
..."most of them are throwing parties left and right"... as i said nothing to do except for drinking,drinking and climbing up dry ass rock imitating a mountain in 100 degrees ,and drinking and boating in a stream which is empty most of the year. You can also enjoy pathetic wages, police brutality and mexican music, and drinking.

Since: Nov 09

Hailey, ID

#14 Nov 15, 2009
Jack wrote:
<quoted text>
it's cheap and not worth much either...sorry little crap hole no culture, the rudest, dumbest , most crooked and lazy yet naive people I ever met Soon we'll be glad to go back to US
So--- where is it you think you are? I'm just curious.
North Mexico

Farmington, NM

#15 Nov 15, 2009
rioazul wrote:
<quoted text>
So--- where is it you think you are? I'm just curious.
North Mexico..not Mexico and not US just something in between
Geographically it belongs to US, economically, culturally, and on every imaginable level such as nonexisting education, corrupted police, extremly corrupted justice system and government it belongs to Mexico. NM has exactly same problems as Mexico and the money comes from US government, drug deals and OIL just like in Mexico. The only state where Spanish is considered perfectly enough and wages are below $10.00 ph. Governor is half white and half mexican. Politicians are mostly Mexicans. NM is an experiment of what would happen to US if president was from Mexico.North Mexico
Kaia

Hemet, CA

#16 Apr 16, 2011
North Mexico wrote:
<quoted text>
North Mexico..not Mexico and not US just something in between
Geographically it belongs to US, economically, culturally, and on every imaginable level such as nonexisting education, corrupted police, extremly corrupted justice system and government it belongs to Mexico. NM has exactly same problems as Mexico and the money comes from US government, drug deals and OIL just like in Mexico. The only state where Spanish is considered perfectly enough and wages are below $10.00 ph. Governor is half white and half mexican. Politicians are mostly Mexicans. NM is an experiment of what would happen to US if president was from Mexico.North Mexico
You do know they mean "New" Mexico when they say NM right?
Amber

Las Cruces, NM

#17 Jul 24, 2012
Las Cruces is VERY boring. All people really have to say is how wonderful all the museums are. I have been to most and they all suck and are very small. right when your coming into las cruces there is a sign that says attractions.. its completly blank. it was known to be a retirement place for people who wanted to settle down and retire. so I guess if your in ur 80's its an okay place to live. but this population is growing and there are more and more kid, teens and young adults roaming around here in las cruces with absolutly nothing to do. The only thing really that there is to do which it gets boring after awhile is walk back and fourth in this small mall and they keep taking down stores. good ones too. oh and there is 2 or 3 movie theaters but dont know bout you but i dont want to go to movie everyday to entertain myself. they only thing las cruces is doing for us is building more banks. there are plenty of banks here. do something useful. if they would build something that people would actually go to they would be getting a lot of money and then bam cruces would grow much faster. they call this the land of entchantment but i just call it the land of entrapment because im trapped here until i can get enough money to go very far away from here. so as u can see i really really really really hate it here. oh and the gangs here r stupid too. as if they didnt have a brain. shooting innocent people. i cant even go to a park without worrying who is going to start crap. this place is a dissapointment.

“ keep the loonies on the path.”

Since: Aug 10

Detroit

#18 Jul 24, 2012
" I was excepted to graduate programs in both places."
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Graduate programs in remedial English? Do yourself a favor and opt for Seattle. Our state motto is "arrive on vacation, leave on probation".
lc almost 1 yr

Albuquerque, NM

#19 Jul 25, 2012
Things I've learned after being here for almost one year now.

This is the land of maƱana
The majority of people I've dealt
With are pretty flaky and when
I've inquired about it with those I
Know that have lived here many
Years they say it's no surprise.

Good luck with getting a job
I feel like I am going crazy, only
To find out (again, from long time
Residents) its WHO you know,
Not WHAT you know.

It is a small town feel with all of the amenities which is nice.

If you like green (trees, grass, etc) then go to Seattle. All you will find here is dirt and rocks.

If you like sun, then this is the place for you. Very sunny most all the year. It's rainy for a quick minute during the summer. Kinda neat. It snowed last winter which was cool.

I've never seen a snake here indoors or out. My dogs are outside dogs and they are fine. I've seen a giant tarantula. Gaaarrr!!! And major frog heaven when it rains. Sooooo cool to see them all congregate.

People are, well, people. You have the nice ones who will smile as you pass and then the ones who are just in their own little world.

It's a prety good art scene here. Cool plays and lots of galleries.

Ive been to Oregon, more southern though. And if I could choose and have has or ever will have the ability to move where I want. Oregon for sure.

All in all, I miss the green!!!!!!
lc almost 1 yr

Albuquerque, NM

#20 Jul 25, 2012
Lol, amber!! The land of entrapment!! That totally sums it up!

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