Martinez vetoes minimum wage increase

Mar 30, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Alamogordo Daily News

Gov. Susana Martinez on Friday vetoed a bill to increase the state's minimum wage by $1 an hour, to $8.50. Martinez, a Republican, blamed majority Democrats in the state Legislature for seeking too large an increase.

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Government has no business determining wages for private sector jobs. What someone is willing to pay for work, and what someone is willing to accept in pay for that work, is a decision that rightly belongs between the employer and the employee.
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......and government, then, should also stay out of people's private lives by determining the recognition and legality of a couple's marriage based upon gender and sexual preference of the potential marriage partners.
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I was totally supportive of elimination of driver's licenses for illegals. However with this veto, we now need the illegals to drive to the jobs that no one else will accept at the current minimum wage.
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I suppose a case could, also, be made for child labor.

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xando wrote:
......and government, then, should also stay out of people's private lives by determining the recognition and legality of a couple's marriage based upon gender and sexual preference of the potential marriage partners.
I didn't see anything in the article that referenced Governor Martinez vetoing gay marriage. Please point that out to me as I must have missed it.

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I was totally supportive of elimination of driver's licenses for illegals. However with this veto, we now need the illegals to drive to the jobs that no one else will accept at the current minimum wage.
Actually, illegals are part of the problem of low wages in this country. As long as there is a steady source of cheap day labor, it is not necessary for employers to respond to market demand and raise wages.

Keep illegals out, and wages will necessary increase on their own, without government interference in the free market.
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I didn't see anything in the article that referenced Governor Martinez vetoing gay marriage. Please point that out to me as I must have missed it.
The illogicality of your reasoning is emphasized by parallelisms.
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Interesting. I saw nothing in the article referencing illegals. I did see, however, that "conservative" governor, Martinez, was willing for "gubmint" to approve a 30 cent increase.
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Actually, illegals are part of the problem of low wages in this country. As long as there is a steady source of cheap day labor, it is not necessary for employers to respond to market demand and raise wages.
Keep illegals out, and wages will necessary increase on their own, without government interference in the free market.

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Interesting. I saw nothing in the article referencing illegals. I did see, however, that "conservative" governor, Martinez, was willing for "gubmint" to approve a 30 cent increase.
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Illegals are part of the wage issue. Gay marriage is not. But don't fret, most other liberals don't get it either.

30 cents is far more conservative than the buck liberal anti-business Democrats wanted. Governor Martinez was merely offering to work with the leftists in the legislature by agreeing to 30 cents..but they were unwilling to work with her.

Furthermore, I've never stated that Governor Martinez is as conservative/libertarian as I am. I don't believe government has any legitimate role in setting wages in the private sector.

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xando wrote:
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The illogicality of your reasoning is emphasized by parallelisms.
Only when leftists such as yourself need to defend the indefensible.
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Keeping government out of our lives IS part of the issue, as YOU stated in your original post. But, like most of you hypocritical kneejerkers, you have double standards. You're perfectly content for government to legislate according to what you see as "correct," but not be involved if it conflicts with your antiquated view of life.

Sooooo.......whether it's 30 cents or 10 dollars, it's still government being involved where they have no business, according to you.

That's why it's so easy to illustrate those illogicalities of yours.
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Illegals are part of the wage issue. Gay marriage is not. But don't fret, most other liberals don't get it either.
30 cents is far more conservative than the buck liberal anti-business Democrats wanted. Governor Martinez was merely offering to work with the leftists in the legislature by agreeing to 30 cents..but they were unwilling to work with her.
Furthermore, I've never stated that Governor Martinez is as conservative/libertarian as I am. I don't believe government has any legitimate role in setting wages in the private sector.
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Only when leftists such as yourself need to defend the indefensible.
I will ask you this, although I know you will not answer, since you're merely saying words because you have no legitimate rebuttal other than repeating verbatim Rushisms.:

What am I defending that is indefensible?

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xando wrote:
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I will ask you this, although I know you will not answer, since you're merely saying words because you have no legitimate rebuttal other than repeating verbatim Rushisms.:
What am I defending that is indefensible?
What's a "Rushism"?

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xando wrote:
Keeping government out of our lives IS part of the issue, as YOU stated in your original post. But, like most of you hypocritical kneejerkers, you have double standards. You're perfectly content for government to legislate according to what you see as "correct," but not be involved if it conflicts with your antiquated view of life.
Sooooo.......whether it's 30 cents or 10 dollars, it's still government being involved where they have no business, according to you.
That's why it's so easy to illustrate those illogicalities of yours.
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Exactly. Which is why I always vote Republican. Or Libertarian, if the opportunity presents itself.

Democrats, aka "Liberals", are the modern version of the socialist party, merely disguising themselves under another name.

I will ALWAYS support the lesser of two evils...an it is certain that modern liberalism is, indeed, evil.
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Good job Susanna - you did the right thing for the state and all her people.

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Here's the problem. 79% of the state said they wanted the increase. It is her job to represent the people, and clearly, she has failed to do so.
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http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2005/01/03...

^^^^^^^^^From one of your own.

What do you consider to be the lesser of two evils--fascism or socialism?
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Exactly. Which is why I always vote Republican. Or Libertarian, if the opportunity presents itself.
Democrats, aka "Liberals", are the modern version of the socialist party, merely disguising themselves under another name.
I will ALWAYS support the lesser of two evils...an it is certain that modern liberalism is, indeed, evil.
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Here's the problem. 79% of the state said they wanted the increase. It is her job to represent the people, and clearly, she has failed to do so.
But that is typical of conservatives.

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But that is typical of conservatives.
I would like to see Sucia support herself and Chuck on the current wage of $7.50, pay rent, buy food, gas their vehicles, buy clothes, shoes and toiletries. I doubt she would be able to do it, even if she bought her clothes at Walmart.

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Silk_the_Absent1 wrote:
Here's the problem. 79% of the state said they wanted the increase. It is her job to represent the people, and clearly, she has failed to do so.
Please provide the link to the poll which provided your statistic.

Regardless, in a republic, where our leaders are elected to do what is right, not necessary what feels good at the moment, sometimes the answer is just "no".

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