Mesilla residents speak in support of...

Mesilla residents speak in support of deputy

There are 102 comments on the Las Cruces Sun-News story from Sep 29, 2010, titled Mesilla residents speak in support of deputy. In it, Las Cruces Sun-News reports that:

Everybody deserves a second chance. That's the message of some Mesilla residents regarding the arrest of Deputy Marshal Joseph Serna for drunken driving.

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Master Debater

Las Cruces, NM

#1 Sep 29, 2010
Is he one of the ones who would hang around El Patio waiting to follow people out to bust them?

Mesilla Marshall Hypocricy.

Since: Jul 10

Santa Fe, NM

#2 Sep 29, 2010
With respect, I too believe everyone deserves a second chance. Let me ask, WHERE ARE THE SECOND CHANCES FOR PEOPLE WHOSE CARS HAVE BEEN SLAMMED INTO BY DRUNKEN DRIVERS, TAKING THEIR LIMBS, THEIR SPINAL CORDS, THEIR HOPE, THEIR LIVES, OR THE LIVES OF THEIR CHILDREN?

The guy should've been locked up like any other drunk driver, and his badge and gun should be with his keys at the bottom of a lake somewhere.

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#3 Sep 29, 2010
My only contacts with this guy (not a traffic ticket or similar thing) gave me the strong impression of an arrogant jerk with a badge.
Why should he get any more chances than anyone else? He didn't even spend the night in jail, like ANYONE ELSE would have.
Why is this guy still her

Las Cruces, NM

#4 Sep 29, 2010
He was elevated to Marshal but then quickly demoted to sergeant and later down to corporal. Few mesilleros want him around.
This is ridiculous

Las Cruces, NM

#5 Sep 29, 2010
Fire the drunkard. He is going to kill someone next time and the bleeding hearts that support him will be nothing more than cowards when it happens. Can you imagine him wearing a badge again and pulling over someone suspected of DUI? Whats he going to do? More than likely act like the state cop who let him go. He will side with his kind when he is drunk or he will be the mean and unmerciful deputy when he is sober and then he will go hang out at the high school and prey on the little 15 year old girls that are wanting him to stay. Have you seen how he is at the school? Talk about an arrogant show off. What I want to know is what has he done to make a little 15 year old girl want to support him "emotionally" as the article stated? Since when does a 15 year old girl get involved with serious adult issues like this? Something is very very questionable here.
Jordan

Las Cruces, NM

#6 Sep 29, 2010
How do you explain second chances to the victims of drunk drivers? People who are scarred, lose their limbs or the use of their body for their lifetime? Explain it to the families looking at the closed coffin of their loved ones.
Two sets of rules for the public and those who serve the public?

“Close the Borders”

Since: Jun 08

Out in the County

#7 Sep 29, 2010
A second chance, then another, and another.
For DUI, it should be one strike and you're out.
Enabling the bad behavior will do nothing to correct the problem
Who Cares

Las Cruces, NM

#8 Sep 29, 2010
I read these blogs every now and then and wonder to myself, why get so worked up over this stuff. I am not defending this guy for his lack in judgement when he decided to get behind the wheel after drinking. I am however saying, does this guy really deserve the abuse he is taking by people who can secretly voice their opinion. I somewhat know the guy and I do not really care for him either, but can't help to feel bad for the guy. It seems that everyone that has recieved a ticket by him, worked around him and even his own family members have hammered the guy. This does not include the fact that he will probably lose his career and have to pay fines and maybe spend a few hours in jail when he is convicted. To top all of that off, he hit the front page of the newspaper.
As far as him not going to jail that night, who cares. Jail is simply so people will post a bond to show up for arraignment. He is obviously not a flight risk and it does not change the fact he was charged with the crime and will have to answer to those charges. People keep writing that "the good ol boy system" saved him from going to jail that night.If that was the case the state officer would not have arrested him at all. Wake up people, it is common practice not to jail cops for misdemeanors, they pose no flight risk and I would not trust detention center personnel to provide for their saftey. Have you seen some of these people, and you want to risk an officers life, so they are treated like everyone else? The fact is that they are not. Normal folks do not hit the front page of the paper when they are arrested for misdemeanor dwi. Most folks do not lose their career over it and have everyone and their dog bash them on a stupid blog hiding behind a screen name and call every other cop in the County corrupt. Again, if that were the case he would not have been arrested at all. Beleive me, there is not "Thin Blue Line" in this town or in the southwest at all. Just cops trying to make a living and do the right thing most of the time, minus the human factor (sometimes we make mistakes). Don't let one error in judgement spoil your opinion of those that try to do the right thing. And leave the poor guy alone already as far as the blog goes. He has paid his dues on the internet. I think I saw two positive comments out of hundreds!
Concern citizen

Santa Fe, NM

#9 Sep 29, 2010
See juat as I said on paid leave and nothing will happen to him! He broke the law period deal with it people.

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

#10 Sep 29, 2010
More proof that DUI violations should be categorized differently. I see a couple comments up there about how do you tell the victims of those killed in DUI accidents, about a second chance? You don't, and I sympathize with their feelings, but at the same time, how do you tell the person busted for DUI, who DIDN'T cause an accident, who didn't kill someone, who in fact, didn't hit anyone or anything, that they don't get a second chance?

DUI violations,unless you kill someone, are ALL treated the same under the blanket of DUI violation law. Taking other things into account also, like if you blow over or above .16...but the law makes no distinguishment between the guy who blew a .08 or even a .16, who didn't wreck into something, or someone, or the guy who blew the same but did wreck into someone or something, provided nobody is killed, because they'll add manslaughter or something to it at that point....

You get a DUI, you get punished multiple ways, regardless if you killed someone or not. More often than not, you lose your job, punishment #1.
Mandatory jail time. Punishment #2.
Vehicle impounded, punishment 3.
Your drivers license is seized. Number 4.
Fines, classes, probation, assessments- punishments 5,6,7 and 8.
Mandatory interlock and license, punishments number 9 and 10.

All of those pretty much standard punishments, all doled out, for practical purposes, simultaneously, for ANYONE convicted of DUI, whether they harmed someone or not, whether they blew above or below .16.
If you blow above .16 you may get a felony, punishment number 11.
In this case, they also cited him for having his gun in the car....punishment #12....

Punished numerous times, for the same crime.
What other misdemeanor requires a mandatory jail term and a 9 step punishment program?
How many second chances has this deputy given drunk people? How many cars of DUI'ers has this guy impounded? How many times has this guy gone to bat for someone busted for DUI?
How many times have YOU drank one or two, or even three, and drove home?
Someone should pull out the stats of his DUI arrests.

I believe in chances, but I also believe hypocrisy exists. Additionally, I believe that DUI laws should be more closely examined.

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

#11 Sep 29, 2010
oldnavy2001 wrote:
A second chance, then another, and another.
For DUI, it should be one strike and you're out.
Enabling the bad behavior will do nothing to correct the problem
No, the guy who just left the Applebees, and got busted DWI for weaving, versus the guy who just left some bar who kills three, are NOT the same crimes.

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

#12 Sep 29, 2010
Who Cares wrote:
I read these blogs every now and then and wonder to myself, why get so worked up over this stuff. I am not defending this guy for his lack in judgement when he decided to get behind the wheel after drinking. I am however saying, does this guy really deserve the abuse he is taking by people who can secretly voice their opinion. I somewhat know the guy and I do not really care for him either, but can't help to feel bad for the guy. It seems that everyone that has recieved a ticket by him, worked around him and even his own family members have hammered the guy. This does not include the fact that he will probably lose his career and have to pay fines and maybe spend a few hours in jail when he is convicted. To top all of that off, he hit the front page of the newspaper.
As far as him not going to jail that night, who cares. Jail is simply so people will post a bond to show up for arraignment. He is obviously not a flight risk and it does not change the fact he was charged with the crime and will have to answer to those charges. People keep writing that "the good ol boy system" saved him from going to jail that night.If that was the case the state officer would not have arrested him at all. Wake up people, it is common practice not to jail cops for misdemeanors, they pose no flight risk and I would not trust detention center personnel to provide for their saftey. Have you seen some of these people, and you want to risk an officers life, so they are treated like everyone else? The fact is that they are not. Normal folks do not hit the front page of the paper when they are arrested for misdemeanor dwi. Most folks do not lose their career over it and have everyone and their dog bash them on a stupid blog hiding behind a screen name and call every other cop in the County corrupt. Again, if that were the case he would not have been arrested at all. Beleive me, there is not "Thin Blue Line" in this town or in the southwest at all. Just cops trying to make a living and do the right thing most of the time, minus the human factor (sometimes we make mistakes). Don't let one error in judgement spoil your opinion of those that try to do the right thing. And leave the poor guy alone already as far as the blog goes. He has paid his dues on the internet. I think I saw two positive comments out of hundreds!
These anonymous screen berets don't care, but I like your post. Like I was talking about in my other post, multiple punishments for DUI offenders...all the same...
Excessive punishment.
Hatch nm

Hatch, NM

#13 Sep 29, 2010
What the hell wrong with you all of you he broke the law he needs to be in jail. And you guys that think he is a good guy are his drinking friends!and need to be in jail too!!!!
Antonia

Albuquerque, NM

#14 Sep 29, 2010
Regardless of his past record good or bad people he should be dealt with in the same fashion as anyone else who committs a DUI. Unfortunately he will be dealth with more severely because of his badge. There are many people who have not seen the damage firsthand that he has seen. He has probably pulled people from wrecks or seen them die on the side of the road while waiting for help to come and felt that helplessness at being able to do nothing. Unfortunately you gambled and lost, You Drink, You Drive, You Lose........Thank GOD you did not kill someone or cause an accident, it could have been worse. I feel bad for you because you did build your career and one bad dumb choice ended it. As for Karma I dont know but I hear its a bitch
cwm2

Las Cruces, NM

#15 Sep 29, 2010
Actions have consequences. He knew what he was doing and chose to accept the risk, now pay the penalty.
In The Know

Las Cruces, NM

#16 Sep 29, 2010
jaytheorc wrote:
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No, the guy who just left the Applebees, and got busted DWI for weaving, versus the guy who just left some bar who kills three, are NOT the same crimes.
The crime is EXACTLY the same. The results of the crime is whats different when someone is killed or not. DWI laws should not be categorized. If I robbed a bank and got away with nothing, does that mean that my crime was different from one who got away with a hundred bucks? NOPE!!! The results are different and so will be the punishment. A crime is a crime. Make the alchee pay up.
Antonia

Albuquerque, NM

#17 Sep 29, 2010
Yes I have seen it first hand the Mesilla Mayberry Cadets are a bunch of culos, but then again if you are gonna drink dont drive..........
Master Debater wrote:
Is he one of the ones who would hang around El Patio waiting to follow people out to bust them?
Mesilla Marshall Hypocricy.

Since: Jan 09

Red Bank, NJ

#18 Sep 29, 2010
Maybe fat Bill can intervene on behalf of his brown brother like Freitze did. Gotta love it down there. Savages.
concerned

Costa Mesa, CA

#19 Sep 29, 2010
I'm sure that Mr. Serna is a Great Officer but that does not take away from the fact that he did something illegal and He needs to do whatever the law states for this offense. Fair is Fair
Kris

Rio Rancho, NM

#20 Sep 29, 2010
I have a child who attends Zia Middle School and Joe has been such a positive influence on her, he does not judge her for the things she may or may not have done he talks to her and helps her to understand the problems with her actions. He is somebody I think the kids feels comfortable talking to, when the principals will not listen. I really do hope Joe gets to stay on as Mesilla Deputy!

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