Mescalero president urges congress to avoid shutdown - Ruidoso News

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President Chino, leader of the Mescalero Apache Tribe, issued a call to Congress to avoid a government shutdown. Read more
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WTF

Ruidoso, NM

#1 Apr 9, 2011
Shameful. True leadership would point out that maybe it's time you should be taking care of yourself, not living off others. Granted, you were wronged in the past, severely even, but is taking the handouts really helping your people? I say free education to help yourselves and as reparations, to pull yourselves out of dependence. But stop the rest.
sad sad sad

Alto, NM

#2 Apr 9, 2011
Just curious, is our government bound and obligated to provide for every Native American until eternity? Is there an end date for this? I ask not out of misunderstanding or anger but because this deal hasn't helped anyone. Self sufficiency is something that is not even a flicker of a thought during a commercial break. I respect Chino, but motivate your people. Prepare them for the possibility that there is a chance the money could stop coming in.
Spell It Out for Me

Santa Fe, NM

#3 Apr 9, 2011
sad sad sad wrote:
Just curious, is our government bound and obligated to provide for every Native American until eternity? Is there an end date for this? I ask not out of misunderstanding or anger but because this deal hasn't helped anyone. Self sufficiency is something that is not even a flicker of a thought during a commercial break. I respect Chino, but motivate your people. Prepare them for the possibility that there is a chance the money could stop coming in.
I suppose, the government COULD give them back their original land and life style. That and all the support over the years just about even things up.
Redman

Hobbs, NM

#4 Apr 9, 2011
Spell It Out for Me wrote:
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I suppose, the government COULD give them back their original land and life style. That and all the support over the years just about even things up.
No, because everyone knows that the native americans don't believe in "our land" or "their land." Mother Earth belongs to us all. Trust me, I've seen enough westerns to know what I'm talking about.
grinchy

Alto, NM

#5 Apr 9, 2011
Spell It Out for Me wrote:
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I suppose, the government COULD give them back their original land and life style. That and all the support over the years just about even things up.
Yes, and we could also give back Arizona, California and Texas to Mexico, Hawaii to, Alaska to..and hell hand Europe to the Nazis.
tired

Albuquerque, NM

#6 Apr 9, 2011
It's time for the Native Americans to quit making excuses for themselves and do something with their lives other than get drunk and live off of the government. They have many opportunities to advance their young people, but all they do is sit back and wait for their government check. It is time to stop being a freeloader.
Spell It Out for Me

Santa Fe, NM

#7 Apr 9, 2011
Redman wrote:
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No, because everyone knows that the native americans don't believe in "our land" or "their land." Mother Earth belongs to us all. Trust me, I've seen enough westerns to know what I'm talking about.
LOL
Spell It Out for Me

Santa Fe, NM

#8 Apr 9, 2011
grinchy wrote:
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Yes, and we could also give back Arizona, California and Texas to Mexico, Hawaii to, Alaska to..and hell hand Europe to the Nazis.
Don't think you'll want to be giving Europe up to the Nazis. After all, you'll be catching a boat there, once we give the land back to the Indians.:-)
Michael Morris

Tularosa, NM

#9 Apr 9, 2011
WTF wrote:
Shameful. True leadership would point out that maybe it's time you should be taking care of yourself, not living off others. Granted, you were wronged in the past, severely even, but is taking the handouts really helping your people? I say free education to help yourselves and as reparations, to pull yourselves out of dependence. But stop the rest.
With federal payments to the 21,000 or so in LC totalling $140,000,000 or about $6700 per capita in 2009 it seems you work from a very low perch delivering that criticism. The simple fact is that Lincoln County is a welfare jurisdiction by any measure.

In the case of VOR there would have been a cholera outbreak had not the nanny-state been around to order then finance sewage treatment. Without federal subsidy the majority of Lincoln County's public lands ranchers would fold in a month. That list can go on infinitum.

So when will you propose that Lincoln County and its municipalities get off the dole or its people off of welfare?
WTF

Ruidoso, NM

#10 Apr 9, 2011
Michael Morris wrote:
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With federal payments to the 21,000 or so in LC totalling $140,000,000 or about $6700 per capita in 2009 it seems you work from a very low perch delivering that criticism. The simple fact is that Lincoln County is a welfare jurisdiction by any measure.
In the case of VOR there would have been a cholera outbreak had not the nanny-state been around to order then finance sewage treatment. Without federal subsidy the majority of Lincoln County's public lands ranchers would fold in a month. That list can go on infinitum.
So when will you propose that Lincoln County and its municipalities get off the dole or its people off of welfare?
Thank you for the education, and I don't mean that sarcastically. Good points.
Cope

Eagle, ID

#11 Apr 9, 2011
Michael Morris wrote:
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With federal payments to the 21,000 or so in LC totalling $140,000,000 or about $6700 per capita in 2009 it seems you work from a very low perch delivering that criticism. The simple fact is that Lincoln County is a welfare jurisdiction by any measure.
In the case of VOR there would have been a cholera outbreak had not the nanny-state been around to order then finance sewage treatment. Without federal subsidy the majority of Lincoln County's public lands ranchers would fold in a month. That list can go on infinitum.
So when will you propose that Lincoln County and its municipalities get off the dole or its people off of welfare?
Saw the congress man from NM on TV reminding everyone who can, to apply for the Earned Income Credit if you can get it.NM takes in more from the Federal Gov.than It pays out.Other States pay in more to the Federal Gov.and they are annoyed by it.
Native one

Mescalero, NM

#12 Apr 9, 2011
And who fault is it that made the Native American people fall all the broken promise's you say that now because alcohol was brought here from the pilgrams and lol this is Native country remember that.Native people were here long ago remember Columbus was looking for India and land here he did not discover a new world lol what a joke and Thanksgiving was not a thanksgiving it to steal our land or way of life that the Great spirit gave to us now you want to blame the Indian for alochol who brought it here in the first place who row row the boat over here with it peace treaty's should be kept what broken promises just like our great Chiefs in past warn us about.and let me say we are not indian were the true American Native people
ah-ho-
Thanksgiving

Ruidoso, NM

#13 Apr 9, 2011
Native one wrote:
And who fault is it that made the Native American people fall all the broken promise's you say that now because alcohol was brought here from the pilgrams and lol this is Native country remember that.Native people were here long ago remember Columbus was looking for India and land here he did not discover a new world lol what a joke and Thanksgiving was not a thanksgiving it to steal our land or way of life that the Great spirit gave to us now you want to blame the Indian for alochol who brought it here in the first place who row row the boat over here with it peace treaty's should be kept what broken promises just like our great Chiefs in past warn us about.and let me say we are not indian were the true American Native people
ah-ho-
We celebrate thanksgiving and when we do it is to give thanks for all gods people, my race and yours included.
Native one

Mescalero, NM

#14 Apr 9, 2011
Spell It Out for Me wrote:
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LOL
and how do you know you don't speak for all the Native's that your opinon.
Ted

Charlottesville, VA

#15 Apr 9, 2011
Mescelaro? Is that a new kind of wine?
Native one

Mescalero, NM

#16 Apr 9, 2011
Redman wrote:
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No, because everyone knows that the native americans don't believe in "our land" or "their land." Mother Earth belongs to us all. Trust me, I've seen enough westerns to know what I'm talking about.
That's your opinon how do you figure Native's don't believe in the land and if mother earth belong's to us we should respect Mother earth and Native did love thier land's what about the Trail of Tear's in 1832 President Andrew Jackson sign an order to remove the Native tribes from the southeastern United States and it was then that the Muskogee were moved,along with Chicksaws,Choctaws,and Cherokees. This is the land of the red man History has recorded that removal,but never once have the emotions been included in that record-what our people felt,what they had to leave behind,the hardships they had to endure.Natives love there land.The removal was forced given no choice about it.I believe Native love thier land.
Native one

Mescalero, NM

#17 Apr 9, 2011
Ted wrote:
Mescelaro? Is that a new kind of wine?
go ask wal-greens. Mr ted...
Native one

Mescalero, NM

#18 Apr 9, 2011
Thanksgiving wrote:
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We celebrate thanksgiving and when we do it is to give thanks for all gods people, my race and yours included.
ok what ever...lol.
Native one

Mescalero, NM

#19 Apr 9, 2011
tired wrote:
It's time for the Native Americans to quit making excuses for themselves and do something with their lives other than get drunk and live off of the government. They have many opportunities to advance their young people, but all they do is sit back and wait for their government check. It is time to stop being a freeloader.
hmmm freeloader the Native people live here in peace and free way of life till a big boat crossed the ocean and made these problems lol.
Native one

Mescalero, NM

#20 Apr 9, 2011
sad sad sad wrote:
Just curious, is our government bound and obligated to provide for every Native American until eternity? Is there an end date for this? I ask not out of misunderstanding or anger but because this deal hasn't helped anyone. Self sufficiency is something that is not even a flicker of a thought during a commercial break. I respect Chino, but motivate your people. Prepare them for the possibility that there is a chance the money could stop coming in.
anger ask a true Native how they felt and what anger is...Native help the pilgrams and show them how to live off the land is this what kind of talk we get back that sad sad sad.

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