Otero Mesa should be a national monument

Otero Mesa should be a national monument

There are 22 comments on the Alamogordo Daily News story from Mar 16, 2011, titled Otero Mesa should be a national monument. In it, Alamogordo Daily News reports that:

For hundreds of years the Mescalero Apache people roamed freely across the Southwest.

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PsychDaddy

Alamogordo, NM

#1 Mar 17, 2011
I never seen a Mescalero Indian going to church on the Otero Mesa or performing any religous ritual on the mesa. I also feel that because the Mescalero Indians wondered somewhere that does not make it a religous site or one that shouldn't be developed. I think environmentalist make up many of these things trying to get the public on their side to stop all developement of an area.
Just me

Washington, DC

#2 Mar 17, 2011
PsychDaddy wrote:
I never seen a Mescalero Indian going to church on the Otero Mesa or performing any religous ritual on the mesa. I also feel that because the Mescalero Indians wondered somewhere that does not make it a religous site or one that shouldn't be developed. I think environmentalist make up many of these things trying to get the public on their side to stop all developement of an area.
I bet at one time, they performed religious rituals at what is now Ski Apache.
wldtrkey

Albuquerque, NM

#3 Mar 17, 2011
If PsychDaddy's never seen it then it must never happen, because he sees all that happens in Otero Mesa
Joe H

Cloudcroft, NM

#4 Mar 17, 2011
Maybe Henrietta of Tularosa should turn off her lights and heat, sell her car & get a bicycle.

Do what it takes to stop the drilling by not using any of the oil and gas.

Bet not.
wldtrkey

Albuquerque, NM

#5 Mar 17, 2011
I guess Joe should not bathe and drink as little as possible. Anything to make sure we get 16 days worth of gas and contaminate enough potable water to sustain a million people for 100 years.
JMH3

Ruidoso, NM

#6 Mar 17, 2011
So, exactly who gets all this water from there? And when?
wldtrkey

Albuquerque, NM

#7 Mar 17, 2011
Nobody if it's contaminated. Once it's protected we can move on from there
WARRIOR

Washington, DC

#8 Mar 18, 2011
That mesa is desert. Drill baby drill!
Rebecca Drywater

Eggleston, VA

#9 Mar 18, 2011
This has been a sacred site for the Mescalero people and it should be left in tact. Why destroy it? How much more do Native Americans have to give up to the government? The Otero Mesa should be declared a National Monument so no one will ever go and destroy it with their machines. Ancient ones are buried there and this has been a part of their heritage. Leave it a long please.
Thank you
Rebecca Drywater
rockinbbar

Rio Rancho, NM

#10 Mar 18, 2011
I respect your opinions.

What I don't understand is the hype created about contaminating water, drilling for oil & gas, and machines ruining the land.

If you look at what has changed on the Mesa in the past 100 years you will see that there has been no mass drilling, nor has any water been contaminated. Nor have any machines ruined the land.

The BLM Multiple Use Act insures that Americans can enjoy the land, and it can be productive. You can support what activities YOU do on public land, and not support same for others.
Would you rather it be shut down completely & come under control of the drug cartels as such areas have in Arizona?
If there were mining or petrolium ventures worth pursuing on the mesa, they would have been happening long ago.
Chuck Wagon

Tularosa, NM

#11 Mar 18, 2011
I bet most of you don't even go out there.If its turned into a park we won't be able to hunt or even take a drive out there.
WARRIOR

Washington, DC

#12 Mar 19, 2011
Rebecca Drywater wrote:
This has been a sacred site for the Mescalero people and it should be left in tact. Why destroy it? How much more do Native Americans have to give up to the government? The Otero Mesa should be declared a National Monument so no one will ever go and destroy it with their machines. Ancient ones are buried there and this has been a part of their heritage. Leave it a long please.
Thank you
Rebecca Drywater
Poor Indians with all of that Skiing and casino and hunting and fishing country. The Indians also traversed from Mexico through El Paso to Alamogordo all the way north of Carrizozo. Should we have left all of that land intact? Give me a break. I have been on that mesa literally hundreds of times and have never seen an Indian anywhere in sight! I have seen a few ranchers, some illegal aliens, oryx, antelope, deer and elk but never a holy man dancing over a forgotten grave!
PsychDaddy

Alamogordo, NM

#13 Mar 19, 2011
The Indians are just an exucse madeup to stop any use of federal land. Go up to Mescalero and ask them. They won't even know where Otero Mesa is.
wldtrkey

Albuquerque, NM

#14 Mar 19, 2011
Chuckwagon, I actually go out there often.I believe you are mistaking a National Monument with a National Park. There is only talk of it becoming a monument. There will indeed be hunting allowed as many hunting groups want Otero Mesa protected so the land is preserved to hunt in. As well you would still be able to drive out there. I'm not sure where you're getting your info but I am working with the Gov't, environmental groups, the Mescalero's, hunting groups, ranchers, and the citizens of Alamogordo, Las Cruces, El Paso, etc. Nobody is proposing a distinction that would disallow hunting
LBsambo

Albuquerque, NM

#15 Mar 19, 2011
DRILL baby DRILL get all the water,oil nat.gas etc. tell these people who think is is sacred to go to HELL and leave New Mexico go to CAL.

“I am so OVER Obama”

Since: Oct 09

Exile on Main Street

#16 Mar 19, 2011
LBsambo wrote:
DRILL baby DRILL get all the water,oil nat.gas etc. tell these people who think is is sacred to go to HELL and leave New Mexico go to CAL.
I think your ignorant user name says everything we need to know about you
WARRIOR

Washington, DC

#17 Mar 20, 2011
High Rolls resident wrote:
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I think your ignorant user name says everything we need to know about you
Pot, kettle!
wldtrkey

Albuquerque, NM

#18 Mar 20, 2011
LBsambo-Good luck getting the oil and gas without contaminating the water
wldtrkey

Albuquerque, NM

#19 Mar 20, 2011
Psychdaddy, we have gone to Otero Mesa with the Mescalero elders recently. They are planning on bringing the tribe youngsters out there, too. They have pledged 100% support for the permanent protection of the area. We have talked to them face-to-face a number of times with an intermediary "white man" who has had the rare opportunity of living with the tribe for years. We also have been up there for events and talked to many of the Mescalero about this issue
Gorky

Tularosa, NM

#20 Mar 21, 2011
Those who run the country, whether in government, business or media,[as well as those who are against Otero Mesa becoming a National Park] seldom speak of this land anymore with feeling, affection or understanding. They too often carry forth their affairs unburdened by place, history or culture -- without conscience, without country, and without any sense of the pain they have caused. America is no longer a place to serve and to love. Because they have, in the name of global glories, cut themselves off from their own land, it is becoming for them increasingly a place of danger -- a place of long, grim shadows, the sort of shadows that too often conceal a foe.-Sam Smith
http://prorevnews.blogspot.com/2011/03/pocket...

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