Ruidoso village manager a candidate f...

Ruidoso village manager a candidate for Alamogordo city manager

There are 67 comments on the Ruidoso News story from Mar 27, 2013, titled Ruidoso village manager a candidate for Alamogordo city manager. In it, Ruidoso News reports that:

Ruidoso Village Manager Debi Lee is one of four candidates picked for interviews to fill the position of Alamogordo city manager.

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WTF

Alamogordo, NM

#24 Apr 3, 2013
Reality wrote:
Because she is by far the most powerful woman in this town. She has disciplined, transferred or terminated employees without being questioned by anyone. She writes her own policy and she is able to rally this council and other city officials around her at her every move and she answers to absolutely no one. She has even shown the ability to control this blog when she wants to and she has powerful contacts all the way to the governorís office. Yes, most VOR employees are terrified of her and her office. Rightly so. You would be to if you worked for VOR.
Get a grip, she is just another public sector hack!
Eddie

Ruidoso, NM

#25 Apr 3, 2013
WTF wrote:
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Get a grip, she is just another public sector hack!
Yes. I noticed you live in Alamo.
WTF

Alamogordo, NM

#26 Apr 3, 2013
Eddie wrote:
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Yes. I noticed you live in Alamo.
And, your point being?
Eddie

Ruidoso, NM

#27 Apr 4, 2013
WTF wrote:
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And, your point being?
The population estimate for Alamo at this time, without the near by bases included is 33k (and increasing). Rapid growth is projected for Alamo over the next ten years. The population estimate for Ruidoso is 8.5k (and decreasing). People are leaving this town and not coming back. It cannot get much drier in Alamo but another dry spring and summer in this town may turn this place into a ghost town. If you have never lived in a small town you have no idea how precious a job can be. In Ruidoso, if you do not work for the city you are probably related to someone who does or you probably work for a small company that does work for the city. One person can have a tremendous influence in a small town such as this where in a larger town, not so much. I know that you WTF have heard of small town politics. They can completely dominate one's way of life in a small town like Ruidoso. It is not what you know or what you how accomplished before you arrive here, it is who you know and which friends you choose to associate with that matters. If you have never lived in a small city, I cannot possibly explain this to you. But please know that this is a real issue associated with living and working here unless you are retired.
just a guess

Ruidoso, NM

#28 Apr 4, 2013
Reality wrote:
Because she is by far the most powerful woman in this town. She has disciplined, transferred or terminated employees without being questioned by anyone. She writes her own policy and she is able to rally this council and other city officials around her at her every move and she answers to absolutely no one. She has even shown the ability to control this blog when she wants to and she has powerful contacts all the way to the governorís office. Yes, most VOR employees are terrified of her and her office. Rightly so. You would be to if you worked for VOR.
Perhaps this is why more people from out of town use this blog than people from within Ruidoso, Ruidoso Downs or Capitan.
WTF

Alamogordo, NM

#29 Apr 4, 2013
Eddie wrote:
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The population estimate for Alamo at this time, without the near by bases included is 33k (and increasing). Rapid growth is projected for Alamo over the next ten years. The population estimate for Ruidoso is 8.5k (and decreasing). People are leaving this town and not coming back. It cannot get much drier in Alamo but another dry spring and summer in this town may turn this place into a ghost town. If you have never lived in a small town you have no idea how precious a job can be. In Ruidoso, if you do not work for the city you are probably related to someone who does or you probably work for a small company that does work for the city. One person can have a tremendous influence in a small town such as this where in a larger town, not so much. I know that you WTF have heard of small town politics. They can completely dominate one's way of life in a small town like Ruidoso. It is not what you know or what you how accomplished before you arrive here, it is who you know and which friends you choose to associate with that matters. If you have never lived in a small city, I cannot possibly explain this to you. But please know that this is a real issue associated with living and working here unless you are retired.
Point taken!
Eddie

Ruidoso, NM

#31 Apr 4, 2013
WTF wrote:
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Point taken!
Thanks for listening.
WTF

Alamogordo, NM

#32 Apr 7, 2013
Eddie wrote:
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Thanks for listening.
TKS for not sending her to us!
hummmmm

Canyon Lake, TX

#33 Apr 7, 2013
WTF wrote:
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TKS for not sending her to us!
So does this mean she is not a contender for the Alamogordo job? She did make the top 4?
WTF

Alamogordo, NM

#34 Apr 8, 2013
hummmmm wrote:
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So does this mean she is not a contender for the Alamogordo job? She did make the top 4?
Not according to the local rag!
Race Track Leaving

Ruidoso Downs, NM

#35 Apr 10, 2013
Is our track leaving again. Watch KOAT 13 News in Albuq about Ruidoso and our Water Emergency. Shows pictures of Little Bear Fire, Fly over of Alto Reservoir and Grindstone Damn. If we havent scared off all the tourist from coming this summer we are alittle closer. I think Santa Fe paid them to do the very negative review of Ruidoso. Sell your houses now and get out before the bottom totally falls out
Yet you

Alamogordo, NM

#36 Apr 10, 2013
Race Track Leaving wrote:
Is our track leaving again. Watch KOAT 13 News in Albuq about Ruidoso and our Water Emergency. Shows pictures of Little Bear Fire, Fly over of Alto Reservoir and Grindstone Damn. If we havent scared off all the tourist from coming this summer we are alittle closer. I think Santa Fe paid them to do the very negative review of Ruidoso. Sell your houses now and get out before the bottom totally falls out
attempt to scare people with your race track leaving name. You are an idiot and will get what you deserve. I hope it does leave..
RuiRes

Ruidoso, NM

#37 Apr 10, 2013
Hubbard played the game of threatening to move the race track back in the 1980's when he was trying to get approval to start his casino. "I'll have the move the track if I'm not allowed to build a casino...." His tactic was successful.

Since it worked once, he tried it again a few years ago and the "Fight Back!" campaign won him $750,000 per year to keep his racetrack / casino in the area.

He, and his supporters, think this is good business practice, but in reality it is legalized theft.
Just saying

Ruidoso, NM

#38 Apr 10, 2013
RuiRes wrote:
Hubbard played the game of threatening to move the race track back in the 1980's when he was trying to get approval to start his casino. "I'll have the move the track if I'm not allowed to build a casino...." His tactic was successful.
Since it worked once, he tried it again a few years ago and the "Fight Back!" campaign won him $750,000 per year to keep his racetrack / casino in the area.
He, and his supporters, think this is good business practice, but in reality it is legalized theft.
He didn't own the casino till the 1988. The casino law wasn't passed till 95 or 96. Prior to slots the track owners were going to have to close down not move. This included Sunland and Albuquerque, markets that are a little bigger than Ruidoso. They were losing money hand over fist. With out slots there would be no racing industry in NM.
Close them

Alamogordo, NM

#39 Apr 10, 2013
Just saying wrote:
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He didn't own the casino till the 1988. The casino law wasn't passed till 95 or 96. Prior to slots the track owners were going to have to close down not move. This included Sunland and Albuquerque, markets that are a little bigger than Ruidoso. They were losing money hand over fist. With out slots there would be no racing industry in NM.
all down. People in Ruidoso are not to smart to begin with..
RuiRes

Ruidoso, NM

#40 Apr 10, 2013
I meant to write 1990's instead of 1980's. A letter from a friend dated February 14, 1995:

"R.D. Hubbard who owns the race track is threatening to close if casino gambling is not approved by the legislature. The bill to allow casino gambling goes to the legislature this week and Ruidoso citizens are lobbying for it."

History repeats itself.
History

Alamogordo, NM

#41 Apr 10, 2013
RuiRes wrote:
I meant to write 1990's instead of 1980's. A letter from a friend dated February 14, 1995:
"R.D. Hubbard who owns the race track is threatening to close if casino gambling is not approved by the legislature. The bill to allow casino gambling goes to the legislature this week and Ruidoso citizens are lobbying for it."
History repeats itself.
can not repeat itself if you first don't learn history idiot. I suggest you go study the history of ruidoso and the track before you report on it. Geeez!..
RuiRes

Ruidoso, NM

#42 Apr 10, 2013
History wrote:
<quoted text>can not repeat itself if you first don't learn history idiot. I suggest you go study the history of ruidoso and the track before you report on it. Geeez!..
Based on your aggressiveness and lack of rationality, you must be related to the "Fight Back!" regime in some form or fashion. You may be proud of Hubbard and his shenanigans but I am not.
Do not

Alamogordo, NM

#43 Apr 10, 2013
RuiRes wrote:
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Based on your aggressiveness and lack of rationality, you must be related to the "Fight Back!" regime in some form or fashion. You may be proud of Hubbard and his shenanigans but I am not.
be angry at me little man for your lack of knowledge on the subject you profess to know so much about. Stupid is as stupid does..
but but but

Ruidoso, NM

#44 Apr 10, 2013
RuiRes wrote:
Hubbard played the game of threatening to move the race track back in the 1980's when he was trying to get approval to start his casino. "I'll have the move the track if I'm not allowed to build a casino...." His tactic was successful.
Since it worked once, he tried it again a few years ago and the "Fight Back!" campaign won him $750,000 per year to keep his racetrack / casino in the area.
He, and his supporters, think this is good business practice, but in reality it is legalized theft.
But wait. Do you not see how many businesses the BRT saved and how many new businesses have opened in Ruidoso since the tax was passed? Do you not see all the wonderful improvements that have been made to the track? Do you not see the huge crowds of tourists that are now flocking to Ruidoso by the thousands to enjoy our crisp green mountains? Do you not understand how much better off we are here in Ruidoso since the track has stayed? Fight back, fight back, fight back....you too can help fight back by giving even more of your tax money and please, vote yes to renew this wonderful tax when it again comes up for vote.

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