Councilor, mayor spar over mayor's 'r...

Councilor, mayor spar over mayor's 'reprimand'

There are 20 comments on the Ruidoso News story from Mar 29, 2013, titled Councilor, mayor spar over mayor's 'reprimand'. In it, Ruidoso News reports that:

Bristling at "being reprimanded as children," Ruidoso Councilor Denise Dean Tuesday criticized the mayor for his recent public comments about some councilors exceeding their elected roles and his decision to announce in public that he had scheduled a council training session with a New Mexico Municipal League attorney.

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Bait

Alto, NM

#1 Mar 29, 2013
That's funny the mayor upset that someone would overstep there boundaries. Its ok for him but not anyone else.
Mimi

Alto, NM

#2 Mar 29, 2013
I would like to echo Ms. Sayer's comment on Ms. Dean's "courage and integrity" and would encourage the other counsilors to follow her lead. It is a sorely lacking trait on that panel! Why on earth would they allow this mayor to get away with acting like a spoiled little boy when he doesn't get his way TIME AFTER TIME? I dare say that they probably wouldn't allow it at home.

TIME TO "MAN/WOMAN UP", COUNSILORS!
April Fools

Ruidoso, NM

#3 Mar 29, 2013
Bait wrote:
That's funny the mayor upset that someone would overstep there boundaries. Its ok for him but not anyone else.
I suspect that s--- hit the fan because someone on the council was actually brave enough to look independently over the shoulder of DL, the village bouncer. But after publically getting thier teeth kicked in, I suppose that this same council will give her another huge raise this year and will continue to blindly promote her and Mr. Personality, our mayor, as Gods greatest gift to mankind. Stoddard is trying to apologize but is not capable of doing so because of his ego and the remainder of the council is finally getting a taste of thier own medicine. Tea anyone?
I used to be a Head coach

Ruidoso, NM

#4 Mar 29, 2013
let's use Coach Ray's philosophy...Head coach at Rice,,,many assistant coaches that do exactly what he says...no problem, Mayor of VoR (head coach) with council (asst. coaches) BIG DIFFERENCE..under the form of government established by VoR the assistant coaches have all the power...the head coach is a figure head with a tie breaking vote if needed....ego getting in the way
Neither Alborn or Williams (CoRD) have figured out that they don't have any power
Just the Facts

Ruidoso, NM

#5 Mar 29, 2013
The mayor by statue is the chief executive officer of the municipality even with a city manager. The Mayor does give up day to day operation control when a manger is present. The Mayor's power comes from their personality and their ability to convince the council to move as he/she wants.

The council has no power as individuals only as a collective. Councilors that try to micro manage municipal departments individually are out of their legal element. This is the problem that some councilors have in Ruidoso.

This mayor (Alborn) also has the problem that his personality and action's has not brought the councilors along with his views. This mayor has no vision of where he wanted to lead the Village. Given this lack of vision, the Council all went off in their own directions, a perfect combination for a dysfunctional government.
nmle2180

Ruidoso, NM

#7 Mar 30, 2013
I'll be the first to criticize the Mayor's actions on a lot of issues - especially as of late - but it's about time that Mayor Alborn took his mayoral cajones out of his purse and put Ms. Dean in her place. Ms Sayers would be wise to shut her trap and back it up a few steps as well. Those two are completely out of control, and ignorant as to what this Village really needs.

Well done, Mr. Mayor. I actually applaud you - this time.
Mimi

Alto, NM

#8 Apr 1, 2013
Just the Facts wrote:
The mayor by statue is the chief executive officer of the municipality even with a city manager. The Mayor does give up day to day operation control when a manger is present. The Mayor's power comes from their personality and their ability to convince the council to move as he/she wants.
The council has no power as individuals only as a collective. Councilors that try to micro manage municipal departments individually are out of their legal element. This is the problem that some councilors have in Ruidoso.
This mayor (Alborn) also has the problem that his personality and action's has not brought the councilors along with his views. This mayor has no vision of where he wanted to lead the Village. Given this lack of vision, the Council all went off in their own directions, a perfect combination for a dysfunctional government.
Let's see if I understand your comments: The mayor has power to lead a collective body (not individuals who were elected as individuals) only when the city manager is not present. I'd say that Mr. Mayor has no control and even less ability to lead or manage because he has no leadership skills. You can blame his personality if you want (which I have to admit does not help). A dysfunctional government equals dysfunctional leadership. Have a nice day!
Tax Payer in Ruidoso

Ruidoso, NM

#9 Apr 1, 2013
nmle2180 wrote:
I'll be the first to criticize the Mayor's actions on a lot of issues - especially as of late - but it's about time that Mayor Alborn took his mayoral cajones out of his purse and put Ms. Dean in her place. Ms Sayers would be wise to shut her trap and back it up a few steps as well. Those two are completely out of control, and ignorant as to what this Village really needs.
Well done, Mr. Mayor. I actually applaud you - this time.
I just hope that Alamogordo decides they need her help. OMG, and she can quietely leave here and leave us in shambles. They mayor, well we will just let his term expire. Wonder how much the training session is going to cost us. I am sure it's free and our tax dollars are not being spent. I am so glad I live in PARADISE.
Just the Facts

Ruidoso, NM

#10 Apr 2, 2013
Mimi wrote:
<quoted text>Let's see if I understand your comments: The mayor has power to lead a collective body (not individuals who were elected as individuals) only when the city manager is not present. I'd say that Mr. Mayor has no control and even less ability to lead or manage because he has no leadership skills. You can blame his personality if you want (which I have to admit does not help). A dysfunctional government equals dysfunctional leadership. Have a nice day!
Let me re-phrase, if a city manager is hired by a municipality the Mayor gives up the day to day management of the city to the manager, even though the Mayor is still the Chief Executive Officer. It has nothing to do with whether the manager is in the presence of the Mayor.
Wa Wa Wa

Ruidoso, NM

#11 Apr 2, 2013
This is a sickening display of public service. Our grade school kids behave better. The mayor knows he will not be re-elected so I suppose he will spend his remaining term cleaning up after DL and making a public spectacle of himself. Better days ahead for Ruidoso with a new mayor and village manager.
hummmm

United States

#12 Apr 3, 2013
Wa Wa Wa wrote:
This is a sickening display of public service. Our grade school kids behave better. The mayor knows he will not be re-elected so I suppose he will spend his remaining term cleaning up after DL and making a public spectacle of himself. Better days ahead for Ruidoso with a new mayor and village manager.
If u believe that things will be better with different faces, i'd like to have a little of what you are smokin. Haven't you noticed that this government keeps sinking lower and lower with each new face? The faces change but the thought process stays the same. Haven't you figured out yet who really runs your town? Look at the guy sittin next to the manager. No one farts without his permission......the Otero commissioners haven't farted in years.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#13 Apr 3, 2013
hummmm wrote:
<quoted text>
If u believe that things will be better with different faces, i'd like to have a little of what you are smokin. Haven't you noticed that this government keeps sinking lower and lower with each new face? The faces change but the thought process stays the same. Haven't you figured out yet who really runs your town? Look at the guy sittin next to the manager. No one farts without his permission......the Otero commissioners haven't farted in years.
Still, when I read this story on Good Friday, I laughed so hard it got my day off to a great start. When the Mayor was quoted as saying he didn't wish to air their dirty laundry in public, it definitely confirmed that there IS dirty laundry. Wish I could have been there to enjoy the show. I can't help but wonder:
Did he blow his whistle?
Was his wife there to protect him?
Was there any foul language?
Is the rumor true about Denise Dean's really bad hair day?

Typical Ruidoso wrangling. If anyone has more details, please share.
oldtimer

Hobbs, NM

#14 Apr 5, 2013
I was told by a vor employee that the water dept. has been submitting fraudulent test results. The EPA is considering criminal charges. DL and the Mayor knew this has been going on. The mayor thinks a Council member is th whisleblower, and DL is moving on before the grits hit the fan. The whistleblower is a village employee trying to get rid of the head of water. Got gastritis?
Citizen Cane

Ruidoso, NM

#15 Apr 9, 2013
That would explain the significant increase in kidney problems among my small family - especially my children. You urge them to drink water, but when they do it makes them sick.

$120 base bill for water, and I have to buy bottled water to drink and cook with. RIDICULOUS!
Tex

Cypress, TX

#16 Apr 12, 2013
Gladys, damn....you look like Nick Notle in drag LOL
STINKER

Alto, NM

#17 Apr 13, 2013
Tex wrote:
Gladys, damn....you look like Nick Notle in drag LOL
I'm not sure who posted it but that comment has been already been posted if not word for word close and ill bet if it wasn't you Tex it would give us insight as to who you are.
Deputy Dawg

Nogal, NM

#18 Apr 15, 2013
It's Alborn's son.
factoid

Hobbs, NM

#19 May 6, 2013
The mayor is the best thing going in this town and don't you forget it.
Resident

Ruidoso, NM

#20 May 6, 2013
factoid wrote:
The mayor is the best thing going in this town and don't you forget it.
Is he back from his spending spree in NYC? I was worried the town would close down without him here.
Little Stinker

Alto, NM

#21 May 6, 2013
factoid wrote:
The mayor is the best thing going in this town and don't you forget it.
Why is city hall out of toilet paper?

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