100 years later, Geronimo may return ...

100 years later, Geronimo may return to NM - Ruidoso News

There are 40 comments on the Ruidoso News story from Feb 19, 2009, titled 100 years later, Geronimo may return to NM - Ruidoso News. In it, Ruidoso News reports that:

The 100th anniversary of the death of legendary Chiricahua Apache leader and warrior Geronimo will be marked with an attempt to "bring him home." Carlos Melendrez of Las Cruces said efforts to "repatriate" ...

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Janetr

Mounds, OK

#21 Aug 18, 2009
He should be buried to his customs,not ours.They were here first,we drove them off.We can at least give him this decency.U think???
Janetr

Mounds, OK

#22 Aug 18, 2009
Id like to know all his descendents.I may be one-who knows?My grandmo Eathel Knight was Apache full blooed married to Burton Joseph Cobb-he swam river to get her-the stroy goes.Their no different then us,only color,were to be brother & sister.Where s all the love??
eilackey

United States

#23 Aug 20, 2009
Turner, Frederick. Geronimo: His Own Story: As Told to S.M. Barrett. New York: Meridian 1996.

Chapter 21

...There is no climate or soil which, to my mind, is equal to that of Arizona. We could have plenty of good cultivating land, plenty of grass, plenty of timber and plenty of minerals in that land which the Almighty created for the Apaches. It is my land, my home, my fathers' land, to which I now ask to be allowed to return. I want to spend my last days there, and be buried among those mountains. If this could be I might die in peace, feeling that my people, placed in their native homes, would increase in numbers, rather than diminish as at the present, and that our name would not become extinct.

"I know that if my people were placed in that mountainous region lying around the headwaters of the Gila River they would live in peace and act according to the will of the President. They would be prosperous and happy tilling the soil and learning the civilization of the white men, whom they now respect. Could I but see this accomplished, I think I could forget all the wrongs that I have ever received, and die a contented and happy old man. But we can do nothing in this matter ourselves-we must wait until those in authority choose to act. If this cannot be done during my lifetime-if I must die in bondage-I hope that the remnant of the Apache tribe may, when I am gone, be granted the one privilege which they request-to return to Arizona."
Herme

AOL

#24 Aug 20, 2009
Can you all reccomend a book that deals with this? I find it fascinating.
eilackey

United States

#25 Aug 20, 2009
Herme wrote:
Can you all reccomend a book that deals with this? I find it fascinating.
The book Geronimo: His Own Story can be found at Barnes & Noble for approx.$14. It is Geronimo's autobiography which was dictated to S.M. Barrett who wrote it down.
hopi pride

AOL

#26 Aug 21, 2009
Nancetta and Golden Boy had a child, Many Foxes, Nancetta was a Hopi. She was held captive during the POW's days but was allowed to return to Arizona with her daughter, Little Thunder.

They are correct here in stating that Steaming Shoe was Nancetta's new husband upon return to Arizona, immediately. Nancetta assumed the name, Nancetta Shoe.
hello

Alto, NM

#27 Aug 31, 2009
Is there any update on this saga?
hopi pride

AOL

#28 Sep 1, 2009
Golden Boy relocated to Ruidoso and began a career as medicine man. Nancetta Shoe had a daughter Taubin who lived a solitary life as an educator, becoming pregnant late in life. She never married, but gave birth to a child at age 44. During labor, she had a brain anuerysm. She dies two days later. Golden Boy was now in his 70's but went to Arizona to retrieve the son and named him Soloman Fields of Grey Shoe. He raised the grandson as his own as much as he was able until his health failed at 84. The boy, now only 12 began living among friends and distant relatives on the Mescalero Reservation. At age 14, he fathered the first of three girls with Elizabeth, "Bandit" Chino. The girls were names Abril, Oster and Resa. All three girls were educated at a primary level on the reservation. As Soloman took to fatherhood from such a young age, he began consumed with providing his children a permanent home. He had a plot of land, about 2 acres and he started building and built on to it for 3 years. It wasn't beautiful by most standards but it was archaelogically interesting. As it turns out, he ended up inheriting a great amount of money from his natural father, who never came forward except as the girls were 3,5 and 6. With the money, Soloman sent his daughters away to private schools in California as soon as they completed their elementary education. The oldest daughter Oster was just in the newspaper for

Since: Sep 09

AOL

#29 Sep 2, 2009
What was Oster in the paper for?
janer

Kellyville, OK

#30 Feb 22, 2010
This is SO-O interesting. Im part Apache from my dad side & am just looking to see if I can find anyone out there of who I may-be related to.Im proud to be part of this.My grandparents,from Michigan ,Burton J Cobb & Eathel Knight. I dont know where she came from this is the only info I have.My gramp-7/13/1868;11/3/1953,my gram-12/6/1870;1/8/1909.She gave birth to my dad 12/18/1912-in which she died. Im not sure of how/or what steps I can take to find my relatives. I found Sara Geronimo ,she a great singer.
janer

Kellyville, OK

#31 Feb 22, 2010
So if I got it right ,Haryln is NOT part Geronimo?
Just changed his last name.?So who is the one to be in charge? Im not sure on indian rules.I believe they are to be left.But if his spirit isnt satisfied with where it-they are then they should put his body where it belongs.Ive heard the spirits will rest when body is where it is to be.So it can be burnt & settle.???
janer

Kellyville, OK

#32 Feb 22, 2010
No one has been on for some time.I was hopin to get some info on this forum.If anyone gets on ,Id really appreciate finding out anything on anyone-of my ancesters.
janer

Kellyville, OK

#33 Feb 22, 2010
Id like to find out how my gram Eathel Knight would be related,being an Apache-which tribe?12/6/1870-she died in Rawsonvill VT.Either she or gramp came from Michigan.Where they were dorn I have no idea.Can anyone give me some ideas of where to look?Was there places they could live around 1870 & on?
janer

Kellyville, OK

#34 Feb 22, 2010
I thought mabe by now Id see new-comments.
Janet

Center Barnstead, NH

#35 Mar 3, 2010
I see their point as it their custom to burn on the stakes or what ever you call them-as the spirits rest.Spirits cant rest when the body is not home.If the bones are not where their to be then the spirits vcant rest.This,in their way of thinking causes trouble. This is their tradition.
I dont see any harm.This is probably why many got sick & died as they never got treated good.
Janet

Center Barnstead, NH

#36 Mar 3, 2010
It gets very interestin as I get more & more info.
Janet

Center Barnstead, NH

#37 Mar 29, 2010
If anyone has any info on Apaches in Michigan around 1868-this is near the time Im told my gramp was born .Im tring to see if this is where he lied.My gram Eathel Knight -full Apache lived there. [email protected] Id appreciate this alot.
chris woods choctaw and

Tampico, Mexico

#38 May 6, 2011
in regardes to bring the remains of gohatlay finally home it is well past time my grandemother knew and respect this brave courageous man he was not a outlaw the american politicians that stoled the land with military assistance from thier corrupt generals are to blame rember this the land that you call your home was stolen from all indians part full or mixed blood america is a land of biggots and racist people rember whos land it really is before you speak chris woods choctaw and cherokee native the geronimo family are most honorable people i would of rode with geronimo i,e. gothlaya not those cowards like custer
eilackey

United States

#39 May 12, 2011
chris woods choctaw and wrote:
in regardes to bring the remains of gohatlay finally home it is well past time my grandemother knew and respect this brave courageous man he was not a outlaw the american politicians that stoled the land with military assistance from thier corrupt generals are to blame rember this the land that you call your home was stolen from all indians part full or mixed blood america is a land of biggots and racist people rember whos land it really is before you speak chris woods choctaw and cherokee native the geronimo family are most honorable people i would of rode with geronimo i,e. gothlaya not those cowards like custer
Since you are from Reynosa? Do you know anything about Apaches living near Parral, Chih. There were some that lived nearby in Dorado. There was a Melendez who one time rescued a girl who had been kidnapped. There is also some by the name of Beltran. I believe they owned a ranch called "El Venado." Have you heard of Ignacio Maldonado Melendez and his ranch "La Noria?" He was at one time considered a Terra Teniente. He was Mexican but his wife claimed to be of Apache ancestry.

Do you know if they were Lipanes or what band they might've belonged to? If you know something please let me know because I have hit a rock wall. I know that the Apache once attacked Parral so they were in the neighborhood.
Anonymous
#41 Apr 19, 2016
Are Geronimo's bones even at the Fort where he was interned? Did George W. Bush's grandfather steal Geronimo's skull and some of his leg bones when he was in a secret society at Yale? We bring POW's bones home when we find them and in fact a POW from Korea just came home a few weeks ago and this gave the family some closure. I was so elated to find out that Ishi's brain was finally retuned after spending years at the Smithsonian and buried on his tribal lands a few years ago. Being native I understand each tribe has traditions and I am all about contributing and participating in luncheons, burials, wakes and anniversaries to honor the lives of our tribal members. Was Geronimo given the honor he deserved when he died?

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