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C Wilson

Chantilly, VA

#1 Jun 26, 2012
My opinion of Debi Lee is that she is a sociopath, she lies incessantly to get her way and does so with little concern for others. A sociopath, like Debi is goal-oriented (i.e., lying is focused, it is done to get her way). She has little regard or respect for the rights and feelings of others. Like a textbook Sociopaths some find Debi charming and charismatic, but what those do not realize [hint: City Council members]is that she uses her talented social skills in manipulative, self-centered, evil ways.

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I Say

Riverside, CA

#2 Jun 26, 2012
We all know she reads the blogs even though she says she doesn't just like the mayor.

But I guess the $100,000 plus they pay her is enough to satiate her greed. She may be miserable where she is working but who else would pay an uneducated mal content that kind of money.

We know it just burns her, Nancy Klingman and the mayor that Homeland Security went looking for Miss Anagail Grassie to work for them. They saw the work she did during after the floods. That is why the VOR got monies. Although DL and friends tried to say it was because of Karen Bushnell who they touted as the next messiah.

Karen failed at her job and when asked about grants that she failed to submit she up and quit.
Fan

Ruidoso, NM

#3 Jun 26, 2012
I don't know if she is good or bad but what I do know is that she is HOT!!
Three blind mice

Walnut Creek, CA

#4 Jun 26, 2012
Fan wrote:
I don't know if she is good or bad but what I do know is that she is HOT!!
Hi Harlan!
Little Stinker

Hobbs, NM

#5 Jun 26, 2012
Fan wrote:
I don't know if she is good or bad but what I do know is that she is HOT!!
When was the last time you had your eyes checked.
Little Stinker

Hobbs, NM

#6 Jun 26, 2012
If your seeing double you need to get them checked.

Since: May 10

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#8 Jun 28, 2012
Lets face it folks, anyone that manages the Village's employees has to be a major as shole. I don't want tax dollars paying for a nice boss to let the employees do whatever they feel like doin. That's been our problem here in the Downs.

I know there are a few good village employees there, but most are worthless. A whole bunch of the workers (in both Ruidoso and here in the Downs) are whiney, surly, lazy excuses for human beings that couldn't work ten minutes in the real business world. I've been here almost thirteen years now and watched many of them hiding out near my midtown business (they like to hide in the roads right out of sight). A few years back, I watched one that frequented the bar on Sudderth and parked his village pickup block away during work hours, so he wouldn't get caught. He finally got caught for something and one of the village's managers fired him. He got the drinking buddy lawyer of his to get him a big fat settlement and he bragged that he could have even got his job back if he wanted it.

I hope Ms. Lee is the meanest bytch on the planet when it comes to making sure the Village employees are doing the job the public pays em to do.
I Say

Riverside, CA

#9 Jun 28, 2012
Fire Away wrote:
Lets face it folks, anyone that manages the Village's employees has to be a major as shole. I don't want tax dollars paying for a nice boss to let the employees do whatever they feel like doin. That's been our problem here in the Downs.
I know there are a few good village employees there, but most are worthless. A whole bunch of the workers (in both Ruidoso and here in the Downs) are whiney, surly, lazy excuses for human beings that couldn't work ten minutes in the real business world. I've been here almost thirteen years now and watched many of them hiding out near my midtown business (they like to hide in the roads right out of sight). A few years back, I watched one that frequented the bar on Sudderth and parked his village pickup block away during work hours, so he wouldn't get caught. He finally got caught for something and one of the village's managers fired him. He got the drinking buddy lawyer of his to get him a big fat settlement and he bragged that he could have even got his job back if he wanted it.
I hope Ms. Lee is the meanest bytch on the planet when it comes to making sure the Village employees are doing the job the public pays em to do.
No one wants employees that don't do their work. We are referring to employees that are deligent workers.

When these employees recognize that Lee and Klingman really are inept and corrupt these employees are bullied and terrorized. I don't want my tax dollars going to pay for litigation fees. I want to know that the taxes I pay are being well spent, and not on the exhorbitant salaries these two earn.

We know they are not worth what they earn.

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Longtime employer

Nogal, NM

#10 Jun 28, 2012
Fire Away wrote:
Lets face it folks, anyone that manages the Village's employees has to be a major as shole. I don't want tax dollars paying for a nice boss to let the employees do whatever they feel like doin. That's been our problem here in the Downs.
I know there are a few good village employees there, but most are worthless. A whole bunch of the workers (in both Ruidoso and here in the Downs) are whiney, surly, lazy excuses for human beings that couldn't work ten minutes in the real business world. I've been here almost thirteen years now and watched many of them hiding out near my midtown business (they like to hide in the roads right out of sight). A few years back, I watched one that frequented the bar on Sudderth and parked his village pickup block away during work hours, so he wouldn't get caught. He finally got caught for something and one of the village's managers fired him. He got the drinking buddy lawyer of his to get him a big fat settlement and he bragged that he could have even got his job back if he wanted it.
I hope Ms. Lee is the meanest bytch on the planet when it comes to making sure the Village employees are doing the job the public pays em to do.
Ms. Lee IS the meanest Bitch on the planet. And NOT because she is ensuring that the employees are doing their job. It is primarily because they not only DO their job, but they KNOW what they are doing at their job! Unlike she and the people she has hired since SHE has been there. Beginning with Nancy Klingman. THAT women can't stand ANYONE that may know just a bit more than her. SHE too is a Sociopath. She has lied about employees to get them fired and when that doesn't work, she bullies them to transfer out, file a lawsuit or just plain quit. There is a HUGE difference between being a successful adept manager and an uneducated bullying bitch!

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pants on fire

Alto, NM

#11 Jun 29, 2012
The good citizens of Ruidoso will not truly know the extent of the harm DL has caused, not only to the work force at the Village; but the development of the community ,until she is gone. Only then will the whole truth come out because she has the employees on a razor's edge, not knowing when the ax will drop if the employees show any initiative or disloyalty.
Counting down

Nogal, NM

#12 Jun 29, 2012
pants on fire wrote:
The good citizens of Ruidoso will not truly know the extent of the harm DL has caused, not only to the work force at the Village; but the development of the community ,until she is gone. Only then will the whole truth come out because she has the employees on a razor's edge, not knowing when the ax will drop if the employees show any initiative or disloyalty.
The good citizens of Ruidoso truly NEED to replace Jim Stoddard and mayor Alborn. Then thoroughly question the remaining council members when they run again if they, in fact, paid attention to what has been going on with Village Staff over all. Alborn and Stoddard protect DL
no matter what. You would think they would have gotten a clue by now. But then, they can be just as vicious as she is, that is most likely why she was illegally hired in the first place!

Since: Jul 11

Ruidoso NM

#13 Jun 29, 2012
The town government is just one of the many poxes on a town that is full of negatives at present. From the fires to the lack of rain, the closed campgrounds, the burned out scenery and failing businesses to the racetrack with its black and sinister reputation, it's hard to entice visitors to come. I'm a resident and don't want to be here right now. Too many people have held office here with the notion, "what's in it for me", instead of "what can I do to help this community thrive and grow?" Decisions were made based on self-enrichment, ego trips and and/or sheer stupidity and hence, we are in a world of hurt with inferior people at the helm. Pray.
Dr Freud

Ruidoso, NM

#14 Jun 30, 2012
Lobos Rule wrote:
BLAH BLAH BLAH
And what of people who are 200 miles away and work up psychological profiles of someone strictly through newspaper articles and blogs?
A nutcase! We have got to do something about this educational system of ours.
Class monitor

Nogal, NM

#15 Jun 30, 2012
They are obviously more astute than you OR Debi Lee could or will ever be.
Shows your and her lack of comprehension, again. Both of you should have stayed in school and learned something.
Read the post again, this was part of the class that was presented by a professor at UNM. Possibly the one who posted previously regarding Debi Lee"s qualifications........
Wondering

Ruidoso, NM

#16 Jun 30, 2012
Lobos Rule wrote:
I want to add some information to what another poster started. I began following the news and blogs on Debi Lee when I was at UNM and one of my professors brought in the newspaper articles and copies of the blogs when it was reported that Debi Lee had misrepresented her education and credentials. I still follow it now that I have moved to another state to complete my education. As time went on and newspaper reports, blogging and litigation continued to unfold, it became apparent she is a Sociopath.
A Sociopath like Debi Lee is the most frightening and dangerous workplace bully of all. They are predators that have zero empathy for anything or anyone. They are completely without conscience. They do not process emotions they way you do and they do not understand your emotions. However, they are highly adept at manipulating the emotions of others in order to get them to do what they want.
Sociopaths are often intelligent, charming, and even charismatic with powerful verbal skills of persuasion. If you are up against a sociopath you will not likely win. They are ruthless and relentless.
They do not accept or care about the consequences of their actions. They gravitate to positions of authority and power and are able to attain executive levels of management. They will surround themselves with sycophants who have been put into their positions by this workplace bully. But because many of them are hired or promoted because of their submission to the bully and lack the skills they should have they are forever beholden to the sociopath. She will then use that to get them do the dirty work and engage in attacks against her targets.
To Ms. Lee, people are regarded as objects that serve a purpose. Once they are not able to serve a purpose for the sociopath they are discarded like yesterdays trash.
It is a mistake to underestimate the lengths to which a sociopath will go, the deception they will engage in or how little you matter to them. If you are being stalked by a sociopath your best option is to get as far away from them and their influence as you can. In a word, they are EVIL.
Debbie Lee did not "misrepresent" her education. She blatantly lied about them,in writing,on her formal application to the Village Of Ruidoso . I know no public official in any city in America that could lie on a formal application in writing and still be employed at over $100,000.00 dollars per year. Likewise she has a Fire Chief who recently lied about his knowledge of the White Fire,got caught,and he is still being considered for the job as Fire Chief. We continue to blame the Council for these matters and the fact we have hired a bunch of liars, which includes the Mayor (Anagail Grasse) and reamain in positions of public trust. We the public must begin to demand integrity in public office and demand that these individuals be terminated since thay cannot be trusted with managing our public affairs. These three public officials in particular have done nothing but brought embarrassment and sense of corruption to this municipality by their deceitful acts. I personally will appear before the Council and raise questions about these issues and the lack of integrity by Lee if her contract is proposed for renewal or if Vincent is still being seriously considered for the position of Fire Chief. The citizens of Ruidoso must collectively vote to elect a new Mayor. The citizens and residents of Ruidoso must stop being apathetic about the way their goverment is being managed. People must get involved.

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Wake up

Hobbs, NM

#17 Jun 30, 2012
Debbie Lee and Alborn aren't doing anything that those that live in Ruidoso aren't allowing them to do.
The Real Truth is

Nogal, NM

#18 Jun 30, 2012
Alamogordo NM Mayor Susie Galea, said she had been recently contacted by Ruidoso City manager Debi Lee, who has offered to assist Alamogordo in finding a new city manager.
The City of lamogordo has lost four high ranking staff recently, including The Manager, Assistant manager,Finance director and Public works director.
Commissioners said:"It's been an implosion within the City's management" (May/June,2012)
A former council member said this is the exact same tactic Debi Lee used with Ruidoso. She began contacting Village council members and offered her assistance in helping find a new manager for the Village of Ruidoso. Befriended them and telling them she was a friend of Jim Stoddard and Johnny and Marty Cope. She told the council members she believed she knew the type of manager Ruidoso needed.(Are you following this closely?) That "she understood their situation." (March/April2009)
Lo and behold, Village Council hires Debi Lee as the new City manager! Then a couple of councilors realized they had been blindsided, when it became known that Debi Lee had NOT met the minimum qualifications for the job.(anyone recall that she has NO degree?) Then there was NO background check conducted whatsoever. Furthermore, it became known that she had intentionally omitted her college education information from her application, but implied she had a Bachelor degree by consistently stating to council, broadcast and print media that she "was working on her Master degree.
At the time she applied, was hired and began to work for the Village of Ruidoso, she was NOT a currently certified City manager as she had stated earlier. She had to have her certification reinstated after a council member began requesting evidence of her "credentials"

To be continued.. Next: Shall we define the PLAYERS?

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The Conspiracy

Ruidoso, NM

#19 Jun 30, 2012
Wondering wrote:
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Debbie Lee did not "misrepresent" her education. She blatantly lied about them,in writing,on her formal application to the Village Of Ruidoso . I know no public official in any city in America that could lie on a formal application in writing and still be employed at over $100,000.00 dollars per year. Likewise she has a Fire Chief who recently lied about his knowledge of the White Fire,got caught,and he is still being considered for the job as Fire Chief. We continue to blame the Council for these matters and the fact we have hired a bunch of liars, which includes the Mayor (Anagail Grasse) and reamain in positions of public trust. We the public must begin to demand integrity in public office and demand that these individuals be terminated since thay cannot be trusted with managing our public affairs. These three public officials in particular have done nothing but brought embarrassment and sense of corruption to this municipality by their deceitful acts. I personally will appear before the Council and raise questions about these issues and the lack of integrity by Lee if her contract is proposed for renewal or if Vincent is still being seriously considered for the position of Fire Chief. The citizens of Ruidoso must collectively vote to elect a new Mayor. The citizens and residents of Ruidoso must stop being apathetic about the way their goverment is being managed. People must get involved.
Get rid of Stoddard and then we can get rid of Lee,Vincent and Alborn.
Dr Freud

Ruidoso, NM

#20 Jul 1, 2012
Class monitor wrote:
They are obviously more astute than you OR Debi Lee could or will ever be.
Shows your and her lack of comprehension, again. Both of you should have stayed in school and learned something.
Read the post again, this was part of the class that was presented by a professor at UNM. Possibly the one who posted previously regarding Debi Lee"s qualifications........
Oh, I read the post quite clearly.
So because someone anonymously writes to this message board that their professor at UNM studied this in class (who was that professor? What was the Topic?), you take it as a valid professional opinion? Because it fits your own twisted belief system.
Who is the sociopath now?
You guys need to get some help.
The Truth is

Nogal, NM

#21 Jul 1, 2012
Previously: "She (Debi Lee) had to have her certification reinstated after a council member began requesting evidence of her "credentials"
SHALL WE DEFINE THE PLAYERS?
Jim Stoddard works for Hubbard. Hubbard and former Gov. Richardson are good buddies. Hubbard was a MAJOR financial contributor for the former gov.'s campaigns.
Johnny and Marty Cope own a racing partnership. They too, were MAJOR financial contributors to Richardson's campaigns. Their partnership is with Construction Contractors.
(pay attention now....)
Marty Cope, headed the NM Racing Commission. He was appointed by Richardson.
Johnny Cope was the New Mexico Department of Transportation Chairman, also appointed by Richardson.
Johnny Cope is accused of allegedly providing confidential state documents to a bidder seeking a multimillion dollar road contract, according to NMDOT. NMDOT also states that New Mexico taxpayers may (and likely will) have to pay Copes legal defense in the litigation currently underway. It is also stated that Johnny Cope has made NO attempt to dispute the allegation.(this occurred in 2009, and is going to court this year for civil damages. Cope may still face criminal charges.)
The Vice President of the Contracting Company that had and still has th State documents provided by Cope is a close friend of Copes and another major financial Richardson contributor.
As one wise District Judge (Singleton)said: Favoritism and corruption at work"
Next: Management Implosion

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