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#102 Jan 14, 2013
rtaylortitle wrote:
And that s why all states should encourage 3rd, 4th &5th parties on their ballots. The truth is being strangled by the 2-party system.
Good luck on that one rtaylortitle, are you really saying that the twin headed duopoly, demublicans amd repubocrats, have caused most, if not all, of Americas woes? Finally someone is getting real close to the truth.
Old News

Ruidoso Downs, NM

#103 Jan 21, 2013
Well that person was right. They said we wouldn't be talking about this 30 days from the event. it's been 7 days since anyone commented here on this. I am watching the Inaguration 2013. Great time. Yes by the time they pass gun reform. We will, out of fear just pumped 2 million more guns into the market. The gun dealers love this administration. Really boosting sales. Good plan, more talk.
gun wise not gun foolish

Ruidoso, NM

#104 Jan 21, 2013
Old News wrote:
Well that person was right. They said we wouldn't be talking about this 30 days from the event. it's been 7 days since anyone commented here on this. I am watching the Inaguration 2013. Great time. Yes by the time they pass gun reform. We will, out of fear just pumped 2 million more guns into the market. The gun dealers love this administration. Really boosting sales. Good plan, more talk.
Take a deep breath. The topic is on every news channel every night. Five people were killed with an assault weapon in Albuquerque yesterday. The talk of common sense gun law reform is everywhere. Where do you live? Siberia? The only place that I know of that it is not being discussed is on topix, except when idiots like you want to pound thier chest about how all this talk is helping gun sales. A poll on NBC yesterday...59% of the gun owners in this country do not approve of the fanatics in the NRA. I love guns but will not renew my NRA membership because nuts like you want to beat thier chest all the time. Get a grip on reality. No one is trying to take our guns away.
Sad Commentary

Capitan, NM

#105 Jan 21, 2013
Sandy Hook was the tragedy that the anti-gun crowd was waiting for to push their agenda to disarm the legal law abiding gun owner. One of their major targets are assault rifles, yet an assault rifle WAS NOT used in Sandy Hook.
What actually happened in Sandy Hook? Please take a look at this:
http://www.examiner.com/video/no-assault-rifl...
It brings up more questions than it answers...
gun wise not gun foolish

Ruidoso, NM

#106 Jan 21, 2013
Sad Commentary wrote:
Sandy Hook was the tragedy that the anti-gun crowd was waiting for to push their agenda to disarm the legal law abiding gun owner. One of their major targets are assault rifles, yet an assault rifle WAS NOT used in Sandy Hook.
What actually happened in Sandy Hook? Please take a look at this:
http://www.examiner.com/video/no-assault-rifl...
It brings up more questions than it answers...
Tragic yes. Agenda no. What is being proposed by the President is universal background checks (supported by 93% of ALL gun owners and gun shops) and the removal of assault rifles and clips with more than 10 rounds. It takes me about 1.2 seconds to remove and rack another ten round clip in my assaiult rifle. Also there is no proposal to gather up the millions of assault rifles that are out there. So you will always be able to buy one if that is what you want...you will just pay more for it. So who exactly is being disarmed?

Since: Sep 11

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#107 Jan 21, 2013
How do you get 6 million people to quietly go to their deaths? You lie to them. We are being lied to from all angles, especially the MSM. Gun wise, you are right...They are not trying to take our guns...Yet. Because they know they can't. That is their ultimate goal, there no doubt about that. They'll need registration in place for a number of years before that would be possible. One of the lies... "Universal background checks", Which most approve of not knowing they intend registration as part of it. Registration and confiscation are one and the same and will treat it as such. It's nobodies business what I have or how many.
gun wise not gun foolish

Ruidoso, NM

#108 Jan 21, 2013
oladcock wrote:
How do you get 6 million people to quietly go to their deaths? You lie to them. We are being lied to from all angles, especially the MSM. Gun wise, you are right...They are not trying to take our guns...Yet. Because they know they can't. That is their ultimate goal, there no doubt about that. They'll need registration in place for a number of years before that would be possible. One of the lies... "Universal background checks", Which most approve of not knowing they intend registration as part of it. Registration and confiscation are one and the same and will treat it as such. It's nobodies business what I have or how many.
I have read what Biden has proposed to Obama. The background checks are only for new guns sold and there is no intent YET to register gun owners anywhere, at present. This will be a monumental task if and when it is ever approved and/or attempted. They will probably need to create an entirely new government agency to manage gun registration and the tracking for all owners and all guns. Do not see that happening anytime in my lifetime given the one trillion dollars we are in debt at present. The universal gun registration that has been proposed is long overdue in my humble opinion, the owner of 23 guns. The big loophole is gun shows where any nut can walk out of a half way house the mentally insane, walk across the street to an ongoing gun show and fill the back of a pick up truck with guns and ammo, no questions asked. If it was not for nuts like this I would probably have 5-7 less guns in my house. As far as the ten round magazine, any GUN ENTHUSIAST and true gun lover can learn to reload rapidly with a nine round magazine...this provision of the law will only hurt the nut case that buys a gun, is not willing to train with it and not knowing how to use it, tries to kill a bunch of innocent people. How many times have you heard that one of these nut cases stops shooting only when he fails to be able to reload the weapon or it jams and he cannot clear it properly?

So the bottom line...what is being proposed by Biden will be harmless to we gun enthusiasts. The assault gun ban will not prevent you from buying an assault weapon already in circulation, just as we are able to still buy a gun from the civil war era if that is what we want to do. If gun lovers will give just a bit on these common sense matters, we will not get the really serious gun control measures stuffed down our throats. At least not without a fight...the measures being proposed are not worth the fight.

Since: Sep 11

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#109 Jan 21, 2013
GW, we have compromised over and over gain for the last 100 years, it hasn't worked out well. No problem with background checks as I do not want to buy a stolen gun nor do I want to sell one to a criinal. Mark my words, this isn't a simple background check they are talking about.

Existing AR's? I want new and better ones. Sure I can change mags quick, I'd rather not. Yes, us gun nuts know the larger the magazine the more likely they are to jam, more reason to let the unknowing/unpracticed buy them! Bottom line, no man on earth has a right to tell me when, where, and with what I'm allowed to defend myself, my choice and my choice alone. What ever the police can carry, we face the same threats they do.

Worth a fight? Another decision each person has to make, I know what my oath said, it hasn't expired......O.L.

Since: Jan 13

Ruidoso, NM

#110 Jan 21, 2013
This slow process is similar to Fabian Socialism except that what we have now is not socialism (yet)...it's Fascism...big govt. and big corporations joined-at-the-hip government. We need to start NOW electing local, county and state individuals that are solidly pro-Bill of Rights, especially the 2nd Amendment. Voting Democrazies or the Republicans into office solves nothing, nada, zilch. I'll continue to vote Libertarian as an independent.
gun wise not gun foolish

Ruidoso, NM

#111 Jan 21, 2013
oladcock wrote:
GW, we have compromised over and over gain for the last 100 years, it hasn't worked out well. No problem with background checks as I do not want to buy a stolen gun nor do I want to sell one to a criinal. Mark my words, this isn't a simple background check they are talking about.
Existing AR's? I want new and better ones. Sure I can change mags quick, I'd rather not. Yes, us gun nuts know the larger the magazine the more likely they are to jam, more reason to let the unknowing/unpracticed buy them! Bottom line, no man on earth has a right to tell me when, where, and with what I'm allowed to defend myself, my choice and my choice alone. What ever the police can carry, we face the same threats they do.
Worth a fight? Another decision each person has to make, I know what my oath said, it hasn't expired......O.L.
Have we compromised? When? I own all the firearms and or ammo that I can afford and have never compromised any values during the procurement of any of these weapons.

Here is what I do know. Compromise is a distinctive feature of every civilized society in the world. Gun crazed fanatics that will not compromise on common sense laws do not further their cause, rather their message is being considered as one of extreme and their credibility is being lost in the argument. The constitution guarantees us the right to bear arms, not the right to build up personal armories. The constitution also guarantees us free speech but society does not and will not tolerate speech that threatens others or incites violence. Sadly, gun enthusiasts that are unwilling to compromise will not advance their positions, especially when the argument for reasonable gun control laws are being driven in part by completely rational people and/or parents that have lost their children and/or relatives in senseless gun driven massacres.
Little Stinker

Ruidoso, NM

#112 Jan 21, 2013
gun wise not gun foolish wrote:
<quoted text>
Have we compromised? When? I own all the firearms and or ammo that I can afford and have never compromised any values during the procurement of any of these weapons.
Here is what I do know. Compromise is a distinctive feature of every civilized society in the world. Gun crazed fanatics that will not compromise on common sense laws do not further their cause, rather their message is being considered as one of extreme and their credibility is being lost in the argument. The constitution guarantees us the right to bear arms, not the right to build up personal armories. The constitution also guarantees us free speech but society does not and will not tolerate speech that threatens others or incites violence. Sadly, gun enthusiasts that are unwilling to compromise will not advance their positions, especially when the argument for reasonable gun control laws are being driven in part by completely rational people and/or parents that have lost their children and/or relatives in senseless gun driven massacres.
I think its funny that the word compromise means that you give up your rights or a portion of them and what do you get in return. Nothing.
Call it what it is an infringement on your god given 2nd amendment right.
gun wise not gun foolish

Ruidoso, NM

#113 Jan 21, 2013
Little Stinker wrote:
<quoted text>
I think its funny that the word compromise means that you give up your rights or a portion of them and what do you get in return. Nothing.
Call it what it is an infringement on your god given 2nd amendment right.
What you get in return is respect and credibility from that portion of society that does not share our strong views about our right to own, carry and/or discharge firearms...and they are in the majority. The constitution was written by men of great wisdom that were no doubt required to compromise in order to get the document written. I am willing to bet that there was an expectation by these same men that common sense would prevail in regards to the implementation of the document. Was it also our god given right under the 2nd amendment of the constitution to possess fully automatic weapons or to be able to carry firearms without a conceal carry license, or to be able to carry a concealed weapon where liquor is served? Were these firearm restrictions spelled out in the constitution? Do not think so...they are a reflection of our mainstream values.

Since: Sep 11

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#114 Jan 21, 2013
No, what you get in return is more laws limiting freedom on those who obey them and do nothing with the criminals who don't. It never ends, give an inch, they want a mile. I've drawn my line. Shame on you for exploting the kids, the kids have nothing to do with it, just an opportunity for those on the left. Been adopting Hitler's tactics have you? NONE of what's been proposed would have stopped any of the recent shootings. Prosecutions of existing gun laws are down 40% with this administration. They don't have the time or manpower to procecute those who lie on the existng background checks. More laws are going to help? No, just make it a bigger PIA for those who aren't breaking any laws. If you aren't going to enforce the laws that already exist, don't creat more.

Lets do this, way more kids are killed by drunk drivers, lets require ignition interlocks in all cars, starting with yours. Same thing, punish those who haven't done anything wrong. That's a sorry way of thinking/governing and nothing common sense about it. Common to a Frenchman maybe but not an American....O.L.

The state must declare the child to be the most precious treasure of the people. As long as the government is perceived as working for the
benefit of the children, the people will happily endure almost any curtailment of liberty and almost any deprivation.-Mein Kampf,
Adolf Hitler, Publ. Houghton Miflin, 1943, Page 403

Since: Sep 11

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#115 Jan 21, 2013
gun wise not gun foolish wrote:
<quoted text>
Have we compromised? When? I own all the firearms and or ammo that I can afford and have never compromised any values during the procurement of any of these weapons.
Your values must not include learning the errors of history. It's not about values, it's about the direction they want to go. Thinking the proposals are common sense , they are dangling a carrot and you're falling for it.

At least our state is better than many, if they get away allowing such laws one place, they'll be adapted in others. That's why we came down so hard on Mayor Alborn, so other Mayors wouldn't try it. Squash the bugs before they breed and before the sheep get used to it. Compromise? In 1960, no back ground checks, no waiting periods, no "registration", you could mail order guns and get delivery to your door. We built gun stocks in shop class (1970) which required bringing the guns into school. Half the cars/trucks in the high school parking lot had guns in them. And no one shot any body ever. The only thing that has changed is progressive politics/control, human nature hasn't.....O.L.

Since: Sep 11

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#116 Jan 21, 2013
A Chinese perspective, this guy is more American than 50% of those born here.....O.L.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Since: Sep 11

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#117 Feb 2, 2013
I heard this morning Newtown has decided to follow the NRA's reccomendations after long hearings. Here are a couple of the speakers....O.L.

&fe ature=youtu.be

http://www.youtube.com/watch...
JustLikeI Said

Hobbs, NM

#118 Mar 28, 2013
It's been just over 100 days. And the drum beating has stopped here. No new posting since Feb 2, no new gun laws passed, the Diane F gun ban is just a faint memory. Just like I said. Nothing would happen. Everybody gets all stirred up,protest, media coverage, and not a dang thing has happened. More guns being sold, more ammo sold. Cant even find ammo anymore. Thanks to all the politicians and media. More guns for everybody., Good for business. Thanks everyone who is anti gun.
Sad Commentary

El Paso, TX

#119 Mar 29, 2013
"This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!"

~Adolph Hitler, 1935, on The Weapons Act of Nazi Germany
Tex

Fort Worth, TX

#120 Apr 2, 2013
Just so glad Oladcock can bring his gun into Council chambers. Little man needs a big gun.
More Guns

Ruidoso Downs, NM

#121 Apr 5, 2013
Well, I was watching MSNBC today they stated there were 271 million guns in this county. They went on to say there are approx 307 million Americans. Please keep talking about gun regulation. More talk equates to more fear of/for our second amend rights. The more fear, the more people buy guns. Thanks everyone who is is trying to ban weapons of any kind. It's just pushing more guns into the hands of the general population. Good for business. Keep talking about it.

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