California to start building high-speed rail in Central Valley

Nov 5, 2010 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Inside Bay Area

The state's bullet-train project will begin in the Central Valley in 2012, a major victory for project opponents in the Peninsula and a huge blow to the local job market.

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excellent news for the un-employed people of the valley. The economy sucks out there. like everywhere else. I am assuming there are number of factors that make the valley(besides obviously being the flatest) the best per mile deal for HSR
China has invested 330 billion in HSR to link their major eastern cities. We should be investing as well, as these are long term investments in our state(and country), and will benefits us and generations to come.
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We could build a 3 gorges dam right under the golden gate that would flood the whole bay area. That would create 1000s of new jobs too. Who the hell cares if your house, job, or life is in the way of the project "no problem" we could just destroy them. As long as only a few people make a ton of money off the project and every one else pays for it, its well worth it, right.
Look at china, they did all that. You want to follow china's example don't you?
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God Help us.. Another Pork project that will not be able to support itself...

Taxpayers will be on the hook for it now forever...

They can't even fill up the trains that run up and down the valley now....

How stupid can people be...?

AMN

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It is projected that total cost to build this atrocity will be $43 billion spread out over 8 years…..

Problem…..
After hyper inflation kicks in due to little Benneys printing press that could double not to mention the states inability to predict and budget for anything…..
Another little problem boys and girls…. We can’t afford it!

This summer when it comes time to do the budget again and the deficit it even bigger than it was in 2010 what is CA going to do…..

No amount of government spending is going to pull out any state or this country out of debt!
me love u long time

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wrong thing to do
Wayne

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What a total crock of feces. Over $1,000 spent for every man woman and child in California.
GOP 2010-12

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and that train operator aint gonna be blowing dope-he/she will pee-and pee often-or a hair test.
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GOP 2010-12 wrote:
and that train operator aint gonna be blowing dope-he/she will pee-and pee often-or a hair test.
you again with the piss fetish?dude,give it a break your only making yourself look more and more like a nut job.
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Boardwatch wrote:
God Help us.. Another Pork project that will not be able to support itself...
Taxpayers will be on the hook for it now forever...
They can't even fill up the trains that run up and down the valley now....
How stupid can people be...?
I totally agree. There isn't a transportation system in this state that pays for itself and there isn't even a supporting infrastructure at either end of the proposed line. Who is going to use this line. Californians are not getting out of their cars even if gas is $10 a gallon because the cost of riding this new line will cost more than driving. Californias love their cars and they are not giving them up!
Boardwatch

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Interested in Vallejo wrote:
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I totally agree. There isn't a transportation system in this state that pays for itself and there isn't even a supporting infrastructure at either end of the proposed line. Who is going to use this line. Californians are not getting out of their cars even if gas is $10 a gallon because the cost of riding this new line will cost more than driving. Californias love their cars and they are not giving them up!
Yes, have you seen the train stations thy built in the northern cities?(Sacramento, Oakland)

Huge stations that cost tens of millions of dollars that sit nearly empty most of the time.

The day of the train is past in the west. Plane tickets cost about the same or less and are 10 times as fast, and are not stuck on a track so they can only go one place.

Our leaders are so Stupid....
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Boardwatch wrote:
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Yes, have you seen the train stations thy built in the northern cities?(Sacramento, Oakland)
Huge stations that cost tens of millions of dollars that sit nearly empty most of the time.
The day of the train is past in the west. Plane tickets cost about the same or less and are 10 times as fast, and are not stuck on a track so they can only go one place.
Our leaders are so Stupid....
the leaders are not stupid, they work for mexico, me, and my esses and if u have not figured this out yet then thats too bad. u stinkin gringos pay for all our needs, u r our financial slaves that is handing the state back to mexico and now we will have a special train that will extend to mexico. we r all moving back to our rightful homeland that u tried to steal from us!
viva la raza!
viva brown!
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Does your Mama still do the trick with the donkey in TJ? I bet your Ruca does as well. ESAD Poncho!!!
Pedro Gonzales wrote:
<quoted text>the leaders are not stupid, they work for mexico, me, and my esses and if u have not figured this out yet then thats too bad. u stinkin gringos pay for all our needs, u r our financial slaves that is handing the state back to mexico and now we will have a special train that will extend to mexico. we r all moving back to our rightful homeland that u tried to steal from us!
viva la raza!
viva brown!
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5 bucks aays ol pedro is black or white, not a mexican.
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slick wrote:
5 bucks aays ol pedro is black or white, not a mexican.
Everybody is just a shade of Brown.. Some are just more brown than others...
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As If wrote:
Does your Mama still do the trick with the donkey in TJ? I bet your Ruca does as well. ESAD Poncho!!!
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LOL, He is part of the Berkley Gonzalezes
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Everyone is missing the point, our children will need high speed rails connecting every state or this country will become a third world nation. First the reason why Europe, Asian and finally the USA is investing in public transportation is that populations will continue to grow while the amount of land will not. Second attempting to continue expanding and maintaining the highways that made this country a superpower is going to be almost completely impossible. Third regional airline traffic will become obsolete for 90% of the country, unless someone can invent a hybrid jumbo jet. Natural generation of electricity and mass public transportation, not to mention transportation of goods, are the only chances this country has of remaining in the top ten for economic opportunity and quality of life.
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I thought the whole idea was for a bullet train from SF to LA? That makes dollars and cents. It is outrageous to spend so much money for a route that doesn't have the commute issues others' do.
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Think of all those union jobs at the taxpayers expense building this costly monstrosity that will be continualy subsidized by the taxpayers for decades!! Payback for Democrats union support is a beach!
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Boardwatch wrote:
God Help us.. Another Pork project that will not be able to support itself...
Taxpayers will be on the hook for it now forever...
They can't even fill up the trains that run up and down the valley now....
How stupid can people be...?
If you haven't noticed.... California's voters are pretty much stuck-on-stupid! They just elected another bunch of Democrat Socialist tax and spend comandos lead by none other than Ex CA Governor Jerry Moonbeam I-love-union-money Brown!
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Moving to Bako wrote:
Everyone is missing the point, our children will need high speed rails connecting every state or this country will become a third world nation. First the reason why Europe, Asian and finally the USA is investing in public transportation is that populations will continue to grow while the amount of land will not. Second attempting to continue expanding and maintaining the highways that made this country a superpower is going to be almost completely impossible. Third regional airline traffic will become obsolete for 90% of the country, unless someone can invent a hybrid jumbo jet. Natural generation of electricity and mass public transportation, not to mention transportation of goods, are the only chances this country has of remaining in the top ten for economic opportunity and quality of life.
I understand your point of view but this state is to big for high speed rail to be effective at this time. I believe video conferencing will replace much of the business travel done today. The company I worked for prior to retiring had upgraded their communication system where most business done between the stateside plants was accomplished by conferencing. I'm sure as future generations of this technology are developed more companies will be reducing a lot of their travel. I don't know what changes the future will bring as far as need for alternative means of transportation but I have traveled enough to know public transportation will not support itself in this state and to build a line that is a constant drain on the state budget seems foolish. I think the east coast might profit from upgrading or adding to some of their systems but I don't know if their current systems pay for themselves.

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