3 Wis. Dems Say They'll Propose Gun-Control Bills

Dec 18, 2012 Full story: WMTV Madison 41

In the wake of the Connecticut school shooting, three Wisconsin Democrats say they'll propose a trio of gun-control bills.

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Get Out

Jacksonville, NC

#21 Dec 21, 2012
Cold Gate wrote:
My kids are far more important than a "Banana Clip". They complain not to be too hasty in making change. We can’t afford to have one more child cut down by a nut with a gun. This went WAY too deep!
They need to arm reliable and trained school faculty members to be able to properly respond to an active shooter on school grounds. Visualize a different outcome had someone been able to respond to the shooters at any site of these Gun Free Killing Zones.
Get Out

Jacksonville, NC

#22 Dec 21, 2012
cnw95 wrote:
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These types of firearms have ALWAYS been a concern. From the introduction of the tommygun all the way up to today and the debate over the AR15 and everything in between.
And the reason they have caused concern is because of the amount of damage they can inflict.
Your comments assume that a firearm is a firearm is a firearm and that is clearly and legally not the case.
If this were true,you wouldn't be making a fuss over a looming ban of this particular firearm.
The law has a definition of what an assault weapon is.
Assault weapon (semi-automatic) refers primarily (but not exclusively) to firearms that possess the cosmetic features of an assault rifle (which are fully-automatic). Actually possessing the operational features, such as 'full-auto', is not required for classification as an assault weapon; merely the possession of cosmetic features is enough to warrant such classification as an assault weapon.
There is a CLEAR difference between an AR15 and say a .25 saturday night special.
Both have the capacity to inflict mortal wounds but it is obvious to even a firearm layperson that the demographics of the AR15 make it much more EFFICIENT at killing than the .25 saturday night special.
They need to arm reliable and trained school faculty members to be able to properly respond to an active shooter on school grounds. Visualize a different outcome had someone been able to respond to the shooters at any site of these Gun Free Killing Zones.

Since: Apr 11

Milwaukee, WI

#23 Dec 21, 2012
zipp wrote:
So how do you define which guns are "bad" and which are acceptable?
The question is rhetorical.
The gov has already answered your question.

The National Firearms Act and the Gun Control Act of 1968 define what weapons are "good" and which ones are "bad".

Type II weapons are weapons that the gov has determined need to be strictly regulated.

The weapons regulated are machine guns,short barreled shot guns and short barreled rifles.
Oblama needs to go!!

Milwaukee, WI

#24 Dec 22, 2012
cnw95 wrote:
[QUOTE who="Oblama needs to go!!"]<quoted text>
Fully automatic weapons are illegal for one. Guns if used for legal practices such as hunting and target practice aren't designed to kill people either. A car used by a drunk driver becomes a weapon but it wasn't designed to kill either. You could kill someone with dental floss if that's your intention as well. Face it its the whacko people that do these mass killings not the weapon of choice. "

I do agree with part of your comments.

Yes,practically anything can be turned into a weapon. And yes,the crazy folks are the MAIN problem when it comes to these mass killings.

But these crazy mass killers have yet to use dental floss to kill many.

Too bad that POS lanza didn't use dental floss.

And as a side note,i was in the army stationed at ft knox,home of armor, and had many opportunities firing the M16 and actually was a little jealous of the tankers because they got to fire the tanks and the small caliber weapons on them like the .50 cal.

During my tour doing this, i gained a VERY,VERY,healthy respect for firearms and the damage they can inflict.

I've also seen GSWs as a fireman here in milwaukee. It was mostly small arms wounds and mostly on avg sized adults.

I could not imagine what MULTIPLE GSW's look like on the bodily frame of a 1st grader.

I wish it was easier to spot these nut jobs so as to avert these types of gut wrenching tragedies.

Whatever the solution,we can't allow this to happen again.
I'm glad you can recognize that people are the problem. I have had guns for the past 20 years and I have never shot anyone as like 99.99% of all gun owners. The death rate for flu shots is higher than the percentage of legal gun owners that have killed anyone with them. We haven't banned the flu shot.
Jenny

Cedarburg, WI

#26 Dec 24, 2012
[QUOTE who="Oblama needs to go!!"]<quoted text>
I'm glad you can recognize that people are the problem. I have had guns for the past 20 years and I have never shot anyone as like 99.99% of all gun owners. The death rate for flu shots is higher than the percentage of legal gun owners that have killed anyone with them. We haven't banned the flu shot.[/QUOTE] Well that makes all the sense in the world!.....So your saying we should accept a couple dozen children dead from gun battles every so often as collateral damage for our right to carry assault weapons…..Okay, we got it…..Why didn’t you just come out and say that?
Milw TaXpayer

Waukesha, WI

#27 Dec 24, 2012
Jenny wrote:
<quoted text> Well that makes all the sense in the world!.....So your saying we should accept a couple dozen children dead from gun battles every so often as collateral damage for our right to carry assault weapons…..Okay, we got it…..Why didn’t you just come out and say that?
Jenny.....What is an assault weapon?

PS. Assault weapons are banned in Conn.! Did the ban work?
Jenny

Cedarburg, WI

#28 Dec 24, 2012
Milw TaXpayer wrote:
<quoted text>
Jenny.....What is an assault weapon?
PS. Assault weapons are banned in Conn.! Did the ban work?
Read and Learn dough-head. "Assault weapon is a term which has been given many different meanings. In common parlance, the term is used to describe any of various automatic and semi-automatic military and military-style firearms". The ban doesn't work if you can drive over the state line and buy one at a gun show - with no background check. Ban them nationwide.
Milw TaXpayer

Waukesha, WI

#29 Dec 24, 2012
Jenny wrote:
<quoted text> Read and Learn dough-head. "Assault weapon is a term which has been given many different meanings. In common parlance, the term is used to describe any of various automatic and semi-automatic military and military-style firearms". The ban doesn't work if you can drive over the state line and buy one at a gun show - with no background check. Ban them nationwide.
So you want to establish a ban based on a "term" used to discribe any various automatic military and military-style weapons.
So my mini 14 would be "OK" because it looks nothing like a military or military style weapon, yet if fires the same bullets at the same rate as the weapons you describe? So, jenny, maybe you should read and learn since you just proved you don't know the difference. You want to ban a weapon because of the way it "looks". The black rifles scare you? You are such a noobie!!

Since: Apr 11

Milwaukee, WI

#30 Dec 25, 2012
Milw TaXpayer wrote:
<quoted text>
So because YOU don't like guns no one should have them, even if it is a 2nd Amemdment right.
How many Gun Bans have worked in the past?.......NONE!
High capacity magazines have been banned in the past...did that work?......Nope.
I never said i didn't like guns and that no one should have them.

I stated my opinion on the practicality of assault weapons in a non military setting.

That does not translate to me advocating for the ban of ALL weapons.

As far as weapons bans go,why didn't they work???

What criteria do you use to reach the conclusion that weapons bans did not work???(IE:the 94 assault weapons ban)

Since: Apr 11

Milwaukee, WI

#31 Dec 25, 2012
Milw TaXpayer wrote:
<quoted text>
So you want to establish a ban based on a "term" used to discribe any various automatic military and military-style weapons.
So my mini 14 would be "OK" because it looks nothing like a military or military style weapon, yet if fires the same bullets at the same rate as the weapons you describe? So, jenny, maybe you should read and learn since you just proved you don't know the difference. You want to ban a weapon because of the way it "looks". The black rifles scare you? You are such a noobie!!
Actually, among other OBVIOUS vital statistics,the 94 assault weapons ban used cosmetics to determine what made an assault weapon an assault weapon.

Sounds crazy but it's truth.
Milw TaXpayer

Waukesha, WI

#32 Dec 25, 2012
cnw95 wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually, among other OBVIOUS vital statistics,the 94 assault weapons ban used cosmetics to determine what made an assault weapon an assault weapon.
Sounds crazy but it's truth.
That is like saying "lets ban red cars because they are involved in more deadly accidents than blue ones!"
Not going to happen, there are 100 of thousand AR type weapons already in the hands of the public.
Yes

Santa Fe, NM

#33 Dec 25, 2012
Milw TaXpayer wrote:
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, there are 100 of thousand AR type weapons already in the hands of the public.
shameful that because you have a small penis, the US has become an armed camp..
Milw TaXpayer

Waukesha, WI

#34 Dec 26, 2012
Yes wrote:
<quoted text>
shameful that because you have a small penis, the US has become an armed camp..
Shameful that because people don't beleive like you do, you resort to insults while trying to trample the 2nd Amendment. It's people like you who help erode the freedoms and rights we have.
We have a right to keep arms and fill fight to continue to do so.

Since: Apr 11

Milwaukee, WI

#35 Dec 26, 2012
Milw TaXpayer wrote:
<quoted text>
That is like saying "lets ban red cars because they are involved in more deadly accidents than blue ones!"
Not going to happen, there are 100 of thousand AR type weapons already in the hands of the public.
Good analogy because at one time the insurance rates were HIGHER on red cars for the very reason you mentioned.

There was an assumption that red cars were involved in more accidents than any other color vehicle.

This justified HIGHER ins rates.
Cold Gate

Thiensville, WI

#36 Dec 26, 2012
Milw TaXpayer wrote:
<quoted text>
That is like saying "lets ban red cars because they are involved in more deadly accidents than blue ones!"
Not going to happen, there are 100 of thousand AR type weapons already in the hands of the public.
Cars aren't banned, but we do have speed limits, and rules of the road.
yep

Muskegon, MI

#37 Dec 26, 2012
cnw95 wrote:
<quoted text>
Good analogy because at one time the insurance rates were HIGHER on red cars for the very reason you mentioned.
There was an assumption that red cars were involved in more accidents than any other color vehicle.
This justified HIGHER ins rates.
So tell me...was there ever a constitutional right that "shall not be infringed" to own a vehicle? No? Then your point is moot.
Ray Milwaukee

Milwaukee, WI

#38 Dec 29, 2012
Milw TaXpayer wrote:
Did you notice the sale of 3 items just jumped with that information.
1.) all ammo
2.) all hi-cap magazines
3.) all "black" rifles.

Once again they will try to restrict the liberty of the lawful citizen.
There is no liberty in owning semi automatic killing machines. Only the crazy radicals think so.

“Uzi Does It”

Since: Nov 08

UZILAND

#39 Dec 29, 2012
wedjat wrote:
How is gun control restricting your liberty? I can't believe in the wake of what just happened, not to mention the rash of shootings that have been happening for years now, that you would be anything but supportive of gun control laws. People like you make me sick, you're beyond selfish & insensitive.
LOL, in 2011, there were 10,000 LESS murders than in 1993. What makes me sick is that the left kills 3,200 children a year in abortion rights clinics in the US DAILY, but for some reason the entire nation has to give up it's rights to bear arms because some mental health eunuch stole some guns and killed 20 children.

“Uzi Does It”

Since: Nov 08

UZILAND

#40 Dec 29, 2012
Dan USA wrote:
The sick American fixation on guns has to be curbed. And screw you people, screeching about your liberties. No citizen has any need for a high power automatic weapon. And if you you're worried about a foreign invasion, the State National Guard will arm you if need be.
Liar, the state national guard didn't prevent 9/11, a day when as few as 14 fighter jets were guarding the whole continental US. 14 fighter jets. That's what our 16 trillion in federal deficit paid for, 14 fighter jets guarding the whole continental US. What you are preaching, Dan, is a lie.
Milw TaXpayer

Waukesha, WI

#41 Dec 31, 2012
Ray Milwaukee wrote:
<quoted text>
There is no liberty in owning semi automatic killing machines. Only the crazy radicals think so.
You should thank those in the past who have used bolt action, semi-auto and full auto to give you the right to say the above!

Semi-automatic has nothing to do with it!! Millions of weapons are semi-auto.

Think of it this way lets call it a Semi-auto "Liberty" machine, because weapons like that are exactly what we need to keep out liberty & to defend our 2nd Amendment "rights"!

My hunting rifle is semi-auto, my CC weapon is semi-auto..you have no clue.

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