Gay Marriages Begin in Wisconsin Afte...

Gay Marriages Begin in Wisconsin After Ruling

There are 500 comments on the EDGE story from Jun 6, 2014, titled Gay Marriages Begin in Wisconsin After Ruling. In it, EDGE reports that:

Rich Gillard, left, and Andrew Petroll kiss after their marriage ceremony at the Milwaukee County Courthouse.

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Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#474 Jul 12, 2014
KiMare wrote:
Ss marrages are vastly inferior to the gender complexity, the natural, normal sexual union, and the fruitfulness of real marriage.
Moreover, normally marriage provides a child with their natural mother and father.
Speaking of mothers, yours would have aborted you had she known!
How does knowing that feel?
LOL!

“Busting Kimare's”

Since: Feb 13

Clitty

#475 Jul 12, 2014
KiMare wrote:
Ss marrages are vastly inferior to the gender complexity, the natural, normal sexual union, and the fruitfulness of real marriage.
Moreover, normally marriage provides a child with their natural mother and father. A natural family unit rather than the abnormal, partial arrangement of a ss marrage.
A fraud perpetrated on marriage so extreme, it can only be called an oxymoron.
Cool story, Greg.

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#476 Jul 13, 2014
Rose_NoHo wrote:
<quoted text>
Something your mom wish she had aborted.
:)
stop that please.

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#477 Jul 13, 2014
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Silly girl, you don't know what a genetic chimera is.
Those kids got my wife, a lesbian and me. Three people.
Clearly you've never counted that high.
SMirk smile.
A lesbian? Oh so your wife and children can be legally related to a lesbian you just don't want other lesbians and their children to have the same benefits you enjoy from the government.

Thanks for clearing that up SMirkysmurf.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#478 Jul 14, 2014
DNF wrote:
<quoted text>A lesbian? Oh so your wife and children can be legally related to a lesbian you just don't want other lesbians and their children to have the same benefits you enjoy from the government.
Thanks for clearing that up SMirkysmurf.
A lesbian has sperm?

DNF stands for DID NOT FINISH SCHOOL, huh?

Smirk.

Since: Mar 07

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#479 Jul 14, 2014
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah, lets see the reference for that claim.
Smile.
" 45 million (61 percent) of the nation's 73 million children younger than 18 lived with their biological mother and father in 2004 regardless of the parents' marital status, according to a U.S. Census Bureau report released today.

Of these children, 42.7 million lived with both parents who were married to each other. "

https://www.census.gov/newsroom/releases/arch...

Do the math.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#480 Jul 14, 2014
Quest wrote:
<quoted text>
" 45 million (61 percent) of the nation's 73 million children younger than 18 lived with their biological mother and father in 2004 regardless of the parents' marital status, according to a U.S. Census Bureau report released today.
Of these children, 42.7 million lived with both parents who were married to each other. "
https://www.census.gov/newsroom/releases/arch...
Do the math.
Ejohn said "less than thirty percent".

Your stats say over sixty percent.

Smile.

“Busting Kimare's”

Since: Feb 13

Clitty

#481 Jul 14, 2014
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
A lesbian has sperm?
DNF stands for DID NOT FINISH SCHOOL, huh?
Smirk.
Once she gets it from a donor, yes, she has sperm.

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#482 Jul 14, 2014
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
A lesbian has sperm?
DNF stands for DID NOT FINISH SCHOOL, huh?
Smirk.
Funny. Problem is YOU are the one claiming a lesbian has sperm.

-You claim to be a lesbian with a penis and vagina, as well as a straight married man who fathered 2 children.

I wasn't the one who claimed to be that lesbian who was able to father children, you were.

snicker smirk

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#483 Jul 14, 2014
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
A lesbian has sperm?
DNF stands for DID NOT FINISH SCHOOL, huh?
Smirk.
I see you still refuse to address the gender confusion your own children faced by having a Mom a Dad and a Lesbian Aunt all in Dad's body.

If you can be a viable father figure then why can't anyone?

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#484 Jul 14, 2014
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah, lets see the reference for that claim.
Smile.
General children divorce statistics

50% of all North-American children will witness the divorce of their parents. Almost half of them will also see the breakup of a parent's second marriage.(Furstenberg and others -Life Course-)
One out of 10 children of divorce experiences three or more parental marriage breakups.(Gallagher -The Abolition of Marriage)
40% of children growing up in America today are being raised without their fathers.(Wade, Horn and Busy,-Fathers, Marriage and Welfare Reform, Hudson Institute Executive Briefing, 1997)
50% of all the children born to married parents today, will experience the divorce of their parents before they are 18 years old.(Fagan, Fitzgerald, Rector,-The Effects of Divorce On America-)
Emotional Damage Statistics

Studies in 1980 - 1981 uncovered that children in repeat divorces got lower results at school. The other children of their age rated them as less pleasant to be around.(Andrew J. Cherlin,-Marriage, Divorce, Remarriage– Harvard University Press 1981)
Teenage children of divorce are three times more likely (35% instead of 13%) to need psychological help within a given year.(Peter Hill - Recent Advances in Selected Aspects of Adolescent Development- Journal of Child Psychology and Psychiatry 1993)
Children from divorced homes have more psychological problems, than children from which one of the parents has died.(Robert E. Emery,- Marriage, Divorce and Children's Adjustment- Sage Publications, 1988).
Physical Damage Statistics

Between children of divorced parents there are relatively more cases of injury, asthma, headaches and speech defects than among children whose parents have remained married.(Dawson -Family Structure and Children's Health and Well Being- National Health Interview Survey on Child Health, Journal of Marriage and Family)
Children of divorced parents are fifty percent more likely to develop health problems than children in two parent families.(Angel, Worobey,-Single Motherhood and Children's Health -)
Children that are living with both biological parents are 20 to 35 percent physically healthier than children from broken homes.(Dawson,-Family Structure and Children's Health and Well-being -Journal of Marriage and the Family-)
Most molestated childs come from single-parent households or are the children of drug users.(Los Angles Times 16 September 1985 The Garbage Generation)
A child in a female-headed home is 10 times more likely to be physically hurt or murdered.(The Legal Beagle, July 1984,-The Garbage Generation)
Long term Effects and Children Divorce Statistics

In 1991 a study was done of children from which the parents were divorced six years earlier. The study found that even after all that time, these children tended to be lonely, unhappy, anxious and insecure.(Wallerstein - The Long-Term Effects of Divorce on Children -Journal of the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry 1991)
Seventy percent of long-term prison inmates grew up in broken homes.(Horn, Bush,-Fathers, Marriage and Welfare Reform-)
http://www.children-and-divorce.com/children-...

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#485 Jul 14, 2014
DNF wrote:
<quoted text>General children divorce statistics
50% of all North-American children will witness the divorce of their parents. Almost half of them will also see the breakup of a parent's second marriage.(Furstenberg and others -Life Course-)
One out of 10 children of divorce experiences three or more parental marriage breakups.(Gallagher -The Abolition of Marriage)
40% of children growing up in America today are being raised without their fathers.(Wade, Horn and Busy,-Fathers, Marriage and Welfare Reform, Hudson Institute Executive Briefing, 1997)
50% of all the children born to married parents today, will experience the divorce of their parents before they are 18 years old.(Fagan, Fitzgerald, Rector,-The Effects of Divorce On America-)
Emotional Damage Statistics
Studies in 1980 - 1981 uncovered that children in repeat divorces got lower results at school. The other children of their age rated them as less pleasant to be around.(Andrew J. Cherlin,-Marriage, Divorce, Remarriage– Harvard University Press 1981)
Teenage children of divorce are three times more likely (35% instead of 13%) to need psychological help within a given year.(Peter Hill - Recent Advances in Selected Aspects of Adolescent Development- Journal of Child Psychology and Psychiatry 1993)
Children from divorced homes have more psychological problems, than children from which one of the parents has died.(Robert E. Emery,- Marriage, Divorce and Children's Adjustment- Sage Publications, 1988).
Physical Damage Statistics
Between children of divorced parents there are relatively more cases of injury, asthma, headaches and speech defects than among children whose parents have remained married.(Dawson -Family Structure and Children's Health and Well Being- National Health Interview Survey on Child Health, Journal of Marriage and Family)
Children of divorced parents are fifty percent more likely to develop health problems than children in two parent families.(Angel, Worobey,-Single Motherhood and Children's Health -)
Children that are living with both biological parents are 20 to 35 percent physically healthier than children from broken homes.(Dawson,-Family Structure and Children's Health and Well-being -Journal of Marriage and the Family-)
Most molestated childs come from single-parent households or are the children of drug users.(Los Angles Times 16 September 1985 The Garbage Generation)
A child in a female-headed home is 10 times more likely to be physically hurt or murdered.(The Legal Beagle, July 1984,-The Garbage Generation)
Long term Effects and Children Divorce Statistics
In 1991 a study was done of children from which the parents were divorced six years earlier. The study found that even after all that time, these children tended to be lonely, unhappy, anxious and insecure.(Wallerstein - The Long-Term Effects of Divorce on Children -Journal of the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry 1991)
Seventy percent of long-term prison inmates grew up in broken homes.(Horn, Bush,-Fathers, Marriage and Welfare Reform-)
http://www.children-and-divorce.com/children-...
Which of these specifically address ejohn's claim?

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#486 Jul 14, 2014
DNF wrote:
<quoted text>General children divorce statistics
50% of all North-American children will witness the divorce of their parents. Almost half of them will also see the breakup of a parent's second marriage.(Furstenberg and others -Life Course-)
One out of 10 children of divorce experiences three or more parental marriage breakups.(Gallagher -The Abolition of Marriage)
40% of children growing up in America today are being raised without their fathers.(Wade, Horn and Busy,-Fathers, Marriage and Welfare Reform, Hudson Institute Executive Briefing, 1997)
50% of all the children born to married parents today, will experience the divorce of their parents before they are 18 years old.(Fagan, Fitzgerald, Rector,-The Effects of Divorce On America-)
Emotional Damage Statistics
Studies in 1980 - 1981 uncovered that children in repeat divorces got lower results at school. The other children of their age rated them as less pleasant to be around.(Andrew J. Cherlin,-Marriage, Divorce, Remarriage– Harvard University Press 1981)
Teenage children of divorce are three times more likely (35% instead of 13%) to need psychological help within a given year.(Peter Hill - Recent Advances in Selected Aspects of Adolescent Development- Journal of Child Psychology and Psychiatry 1993)
Children from divorced homes have more psychological problems, than children from which one of the parents has died.(Robert E. Emery,- Marriage, Divorce and Children's Adjustment- Sage Publications, 1988).
Physical Damage Statistics
Between children of divorced parents there are relatively more cases of injury, asthma, headaches and speech defects than among children whose parents have remained married.(Dawson -Family Structure and Children's Health and Well Being- National Health Interview Survey on Child Health, Journal of Marriage and Family)
Children of divorced parents are fifty percent more likely to develop health problems than children in two parent families.(Angel, Worobey,-Single Motherhood and Children's Health -)
Children that are living with both biological parents are 20 to 35 percent physically healthier than children from broken homes.(Dawson,-Family Structure and Children's Health and Well-being -Journal of Marriage and the Family-)
Most molestated childs come from single-parent households or are the children of drug users.(Los Angles Times 16 September 1985 The Garbage Generation)
A child in a female-headed home is 10 times more likely to be physically hurt or murdered.(The Legal Beagle, July 1984,-The Garbage Generation)
Long term Effects and Children Divorce Statistics
In 1991 a study was done of children from which the parents were divorced six years earlier. The study found that even after all that time, these children tended to be lonely, unhappy, anxious and insecure.(Wallerstein - The Long-Term Effects of Divorce on Children -Journal of the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry 1991)
Seventy percent of long-term prison inmates grew up in broken homes.(Horn, Bush,-Fathers, Marriage and Welfare Reform-)
http://www.children-and-divorce.com/children-...
Did you notice this:

"Children that are living with both biological parents are 20 to 35 percent physically healthier than children from broken homes.(Dawson,-Family Structure and Children's Health and Well-being -Journal of Marriage and the Family-)"

“Marriage Equality”

Since: Dec 07

Lakeland, MI

#487 Jul 14, 2014
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Ejohn said "less than thirty percent".
Your stats say over sixty percent.
Smile.
More than 40% of them are NOT living with their two bio parents that are lawfully wedded in holy matrimony.

YOUR statement was "on the *RARE* exception" that a child is not living with their two bio parents.

My statement was still a about 46 million times more accurate than yours. According to the census bureau, anyway....

And since you still can't provide any reason why you believe that adoptive families are inferior to bio families and should have some of their equal protection rights withheld as a result, and you actually believe that children not being raised by their bio-parent is "a rare exception" (when it's actually more than 40%!), you don't have much credibility on this subject.

Time for you to go away and LEARN something about what we're talking about, okay?

“Marriage Equality”

Since: Dec 07

Lakeland, MI

#488 Jul 14, 2014
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Which of these specifically address ejohn's claim?
Of course you will not obsess about what I wrote in the hopes that everyone will forget what you wrote.

Nope. You wrote that children not being raised by their two bio parents is "a rare exception". If you believe that more than 40% represents "a rare exception", you REALLY are math-impaired, aren't you?

“Marriage Equality”

Since: Dec 07

Lakeland, MI

#489 Jul 14, 2014
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Did you notice this:
"Children that are living with both biological parents are 20 to 35 percent physically healthier than children from broken homes.(Dawson,-Family Structure and Children's Health and Well-being -Journal of Marriage and the Family-)"
A "broken home" is a far different situation than the children of gay couples are generally in.

A "broken home" usually means two straight parents battling it out in a divorce and using the children as pawns in their extreme hatred for each other. Those kids DO have a much worse time than kids of divorcees that get along and co-parent in peace and show consideration for each other.

But YOUR major beef is with gay couples raising children. Those aren't "broken homes". Those are loving homes for children that otherwise would have no one. Or their children that have only known the two loving parents that are raising them. There's no problem there.

But, again, you fixate on the wrong issue and hope no one notices how off-base your crazy is. No such luck, poodle.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#490 Jul 14, 2014
eJohn wrote:
<quoted text>
A "broken home" is a far different situation than the children of gay couples are generally in.
A "broken home" usually means two straight parents battling it out in a divorce and using the children as pawns in their extreme hatred for each other. Those kids DO have a much worse time than kids of divorcees that get along and co-parent in peace and show consideration for each other.
But YOUR major beef is with gay couples raising children. Those aren't "broken homes". Those are loving homes for children that otherwise would have no one. Or their children that have only known the two loving parents that are raising them. There's no problem there.
But, again, you fixate on the wrong issue and hope no one notices how off-base your crazy is. No such luck, poodle.
Quite a hissy fit there liar.

I accurately note that the best place most often for a child is with their bio parents. We should be strengthening that circumstance instead of setting up more alternatives.

That is if you really care about children...

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#491 Jul 14, 2014
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Quite a hissy fit there liar.
I accurately note that the best place most often for a child is with their bio parents. We should be strengthening that circumstance instead of setting up more alternatives.
That is if you really care about children...
Then why do you oppose their biological parents getting married to the person they choose?

LARGEST STUDY TO DATE REVEALS TRUTH ABOUT GAY PARENTING 7.7.2014
http://www.gay.net/news/2014/07/07/largest-st...

Researchers at the University of Melbourne, led by Simon Crouch, surveyed 315 gay parents with a total of 500 children, up to age 17. Kids from gay-headed families scored 6 percent better, on average, than the general population on measures of general health and family cohesion, Crouch and his team reported in the journal BMC Public Health. On other health measures, there was no difference between children of gay and straight parents.

The higher scores are likely due to lack of rigid gender roles in households led by same-sex couples, Crouch said.“Previous research has suggested that parenting roles and work roles, and home roles within same-sex parenting families are more equitably distributed when compared to heterosexual families,” he told the Australian Broadcasting Corp.

“The traditional nurturing role is shared, it’s not one parent over another, the traditional breadwinning role is shared,” he continued.“So what this means is that people take on roles that are suited to their skill sets rather than falling into those gender stereotypes, which is mum staying home and looking after the kids and dad going out to earn money. What this leads to is a more harmonious family unit and therefore feeding on to better health and well-being.”

GAY DAD’S BRAINS’ SHOW ACTIVITY AKIN TO BOTH PARENTS May 26, 2014
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/05/26/us-...

Having a baby alters new mothers' brain activity, researchers have found, and a new study adds the first evidence of such changes in the brains of gay men raising children they adopted through surrogacy.

The men's pattern of brain activity resembles that of both new mothers and new fathers in the study…. The current study, published in Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, was conducted in Israel, and builds on work by neuropsychologist Ruth Feldman of Bar-Ilan University and others, who showed that the brains of new mothers become hyper-reactive to their child's cries and other emotional cues.

For the 21 heterosexual fathers - who were very involved in raising their baby but whose wives took the parenting lead - watching their infant increased activation of cognitive circuits, particularly a structure that interprets a baby's cries and non-verbal cues. It is the region that knows which squirm means "I'm about to scream" and which means "change me."
The 48 gay fathers raising children with their husbands seemed to be both mom and dad, brain-wise. Their emotional circuits were as active as those of mothers and the interpretive circuits showed the same extra activity as that of heterosexual fathers'.

….One clue: in gay fathers, but not heterosexual ones, the brain also had extra communication lines between emotional and cognitive structures. The more time a man spent as primary caregiver, the greater the connectivity. It was as if playing both parental roles caused the brain to integrate the structures required for each.
"Fathers' brains are very plastic," Feldman said. "When there are two fathers, their brains must recruit both networks, the emotional and cognitive, for optimal parenting."

“Marriage Equality”

Since: Dec 07

Lakeland, MI

#492 Jul 14, 2014
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Quite a hissy fit there liar.
I accurately note that the best place most often for a child is with their bio parents. We should be strengthening that circumstance instead of setting up more alternatives.
That is if you really care about children...
KiMare--"Ignore the families I don't approve of, label their children as inferior and forget about them. Then give lots of freebies and special incentives to the ones I do approve of. Accuse anyone challenging me of not caring about children."

Got it.
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Chicago, IL

#493 Jul 14, 2014
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Quite a hissy fit there liar.
I accurately note that the best place most often for a child is with their bio parents.
I accurately not that the best place for a child is with his/her parents (m/f, f/f, or m/m).

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