Open Sky Radio: Watchdog group & poli...

Open Sky Radio: Watchdog group & police union say new OpenSky radio...

There are 8 comments on the Fox6 story from Jul 1, 2010, titled Open Sky Radio: Watchdog group & police union say new OpenSky radio.... In it, Fox6 reports that:

A watchdog group is accusing Milwaukee leaders of dropping the ball with the city's police department's new OpenSky radio system.

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mr parker

Mukwonago, WI

#1 Jul 1, 2010
Alderman Murphy: Would it be fair to say that if the city had contracted with the county to utilize their radio system back in 2002 we would not have the never ending expenses and danger to the public and the police that we have now with this secret squirrel radio system?
Would it be fair to say that you as the chairman of the finance and personnel committee could've stopped this black hole years ago?
Would it be fair to say that Mayor Barrett has absolutely no knowledge of or interest in solving this because he's too busy running for governor?
Quite frankly, the small minded city "leadership" is just too stubborn and political to admit that Scott Walker and David Clarke had a better idea.
Put the city on the county system now- you and Barrett will still have jobs after Scott Walker becomes governor.
Scott Adams - Michigan

United States

#2 Jul 2, 2010
Milwaukee Open Sky public safety radio system
I watched your report on the problems the city is having implementing the Harris-M/A-Comm Open Sky two-way radio system with much interest, since the county wide system where I live in Michigan, Oakland, has spent eight long years trying to do the same thing! This is the same system that the State of New York canceled when the supplier could not get it to work properly. Harris' "solution" is to simply pour good money after bad. The system is so poorly designed and engineered that it is likely that it will never work. But the politicians and department leaders don't want to look like failures in their profession, so they continue to purchase more "fixes" that will never work. But like Oakland County's system, it's not their money so what do they care? The taxpayers of Oakland County pay for this boondoggle on every month's phone bill which collects an "E911" surcharge. It's also interesting to note that in shopping for good value, the Open Sky system is about the most expensive equipment anyone can buy. And no user will ever utilize all the bells and whistles touted for this. The leaders of this community are apparently not aware of the axiom, "KISS" (Keep it Simple, Stupid).
Milwaukees Good Old Boys

Waukesha, WI

#3 Jul 6, 2010
It doesnít surprise me that the police radios donít work, after all look how long ago they were purchased. Since Mr. Curley speaks for the INVISIBLE mayor why isnít he asking for an investigation into wrong doing by those who purchased the system. More importantly why isnít the Mayor speaking for himself or donít we deserve that much respect from somebody that would like to be governor.
John

Clarkston, MI

#4 Sep 19, 2010
$4,300 for an Open Sky mobile radio
$3,300 for an Open Sky portable radio
$9,000/ea for an Open Sky V-TAC repeater.

What a waste of money. All this wasted on such mediocrity.
gary williams

Milwaukee, WI

#5 Sep 19, 2010
this system was purchased through an open bidding process and was awarded the bid. yes this system has problems and it should be scrapped. but think about this if they were to dismantle the entire system how much would a new service provider cost the tax payers? i know safety is involved both police and citizens and how do you put a tag on that? however should the city cut its losses and dump these guys and make another formal bidding process thus slowing down the system even more, not to mention tax payer money already spent. in this case i feel that they should dump this open sky rebid the entire process and get a worthy company here to do business. someone dropped the ball didnt fully investigate other cities that have this system and the problems they have with open sky. i beleive they have a contract with this company so if the city terminates the contract how much more is open sky going to cost it just keeps getting worse and worse. i dont think its fair to blame the radio shop for the problems open sky is having after all its their system and their the ones trying to fix it........
Rob W

Sterling Heights, MI

#6 Aug 30, 2013
I live and work in Oakland County, MI.
I use Open Sky. It still has its quirks. The loudness of the transmission varies call to call. Some calls sound good, some have a slight echo and some start good but the last couple words will be unreadable.
For the most part our Open Sky system seems to work. The coverage is much better now.
From what I heard once Harris took over they were able to improve the system, which MA-COM could not.
We have the ability to scan surrounding agencies on our M7200 and P7200 radios.
Bobby

South Lyon, MI

#7 Nov 12, 2013
Rob W.

I live in South Lyon,MI I think the system sucks,We as citzens can't even hear what is going on in ouee own cities/towns anymore. By the way how can i get my hands on one of these M7200 and/or P7200 Rados?. I would really like to know what goes on in my town this days,since these cops sneaky little idiots. and useless
RWZ1965

Livonia, MI

#8 Dec 1, 2013
Bobby wrote:
Rob W.
I live in South Lyon,MI I think the system sucks,We as citzens can't even hear what is going on in ouee own cities/towns anymore. By the way how can i get my hands on one of these M7200 and/or P7200 Rados?. I would really like to know what goes on in my town this days,since these cops sneaky little idiots. and useless
Just because you can't monitor OpenSky shouldn't be the rationale used to determine it sucks.
I have seen OpenSky capable Harris radios for sale on eBay. You can get a radio, but then you need it programmed to the correct frequencies.
However, that won't do you any good because in order for the radio to be sent traffic , the radio must authenticate to the system. If a radio is unrecognized it will NOT be sent any traffic.
Each radio has a 10 digit code and an IP address.
It kind of works like this: When you turn on your radio it logs in/ authenticates to the system. Based on your radios 10 digit ID , the system tells the radio what talk groups to grant access too.
At a bare minimum you will need and OTP capable radio, programming software, a working IP address of a legit radio and a working legit 10 digit radio ID. I'm sure there's even more involved though.
It's just not going to happen and it would probably be illegal.

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