California Proposition 19: the Marijuana Legalization Initiative

Created by CitizenTopix on Oct 7, 2010

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Stanboy Green

Orinda, CA

#14444 Jan 9, 2013
You buy $20 worth of alcohol and overdose and kill yourself. You can use $200 worth of pot and just get stoned. There is an to the effects you receive no matter how much you smoke. You cannot hurt yourself using pot...in the sense of becoming toxic to your body.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#14445 Jan 9, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
making pot legal will only increase more kids using it. That's all we need: more dumb kids walking around with their pants just above their knees.
Good argument for making Alcohol illegal

We tried that once
Big D

Modesto, CA

#14446 Jan 9, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>The 3rd term reference was another candidate that will be Obama the third, sorry you didn't get it. I agree the politicians are bought. Romney told the truth that the middle class will have to pay and that all will have to pay more. Obama lied and the sheep sucked it up.
You have demonstrated how clueless you are on other things, I didn’t put your being clueless about that beyond you.

Romney's main goal was to protect his own tax bracket, didn’t win on that did he?

No need to worry, the GOP are now embroiled in a Civil war, if the far right wins and they run a far right candidate, they will lose in a landslide, if the more moderate win, they will run a candidate that has enough sense to not try and destroy the country, but to "enthuse” the base" he will have to make far right statements, and will hence lose the election.

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#14447 Jan 9, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
Good argument for making Alcohol illegal
We tried that once
It is illegal for kids, but if pot is legal for just adults, with all the false info out there, and a lot easier to obtain, we will see an increase.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#14448 Jan 9, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>It is illegal for kids, but if pot is legal for just adults, with all the false info out there, and a lot easier to obtain, we will see an increase.
So make it that same

Booze was easy to obtain while illegal also, and brought with it much violent crime
Yappers

Sierra Madre, CA

#14449 Jan 9, 2013
Still nothing to report on this site, since nits post here.

Have a Morgan on me.
Splenda

Sierra Madre, CA

#14451 Jan 9, 2013
San Francisco Giants pitcher Sergio Romo did not commit a crime, yet he was arrested at a Las Vegas airport. The Fourth Amendment protects the people from the government improperly taking property, papers or people without a valid warrant based on probably cause (good reason).

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#14452 Jan 9, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
So make it that same
Booze was easy to obtain while illegal also, and brought with it much violent crime
It doesn't compare, pot is a weed, booze has to be processed, it's not that easy to obtain when it was illegal for kids. Get it? Biggot Dope.

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#14453 Jan 9, 2013
Splenda wrote:
San Francisco Giants pitcher Sergio Romo did not commit a crime, yet he was arrested at a Las Vegas airport. The Fourth Amendment protects the people from the government improperly taking property, papers or people without a valid warrant based on probably cause (good reason).
What are you talking about retard: Romo failed to provide proper identification at a document checkpoint and engaged in a dispute with TSA officers. I guess you never fly, EVERY person has to show proper ID to get through security. Doesn't Obama give you free loaders free flights once in awhile? That just isn't fair that just the rich are flying around...lol.
Hitch

Sierra Madre, CA

#14454 Jan 9, 2013
Ya have to remeber the city council members for Glendora, California are a bunch of right wing Tea Party Baggers, they are pron to going off half-cocked at the slightest hint of them being held responsible for something.

Supreme Court Rules L.A. County Not Responsible for Polluted Waters.

The current Court decision is a blow to environmentalists who wanted the county to clean copper, fecal bacteria and other pollutants from L.A. rivers before it reached the ocean.
Bruno24

Brussels, Belgium

#14455 Jan 10, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
making pot legal will only increase more kids using it. That's all we need: more dumb kids walking around with their pants just above their knees.
It can also decrease the use of dangerous legal medication, and the use of alcohol.
The study above concerns minorities of heavy pot consumption, you should compare with heavy alcohol consumption.
Illegality of marijuana is just a nonsense. Prohibition of drugs too, it can only lead to organized drug state dealing.
How the land of the free can be worst than North Korean communism in the domain of health remains a sort of mystery for me.
Bruno 99

Sierra Madre, CA

#14456 Jan 10, 2013
Whats the clock say?

Where is that darn mouse, anyway?

Has P. Morgan left US soil yet?

Throw the bum off.
Bruno24

Brussels, Belgium

#14457 Jan 10, 2013
Also, making pot legal would decrease the use of it by the youth. All studies confirms that the use of pot increases with the severity of the repression. In The Netherlands, where pot is tolerated for adults, most young people do not smoke it, because they see this as a "stupid adult behavior".
Of course, this happens also because they know that the street pot is bad and abnormally expensive (sold only to ignorant tourists) and because in the quasi-legal and transparently tolerated coffee-shops, the vendor asks the ID, and respect it by fear of losing the job.
By making pot illegal, you offer the dealing job to the criminals, who not only never ask the ID, but on the contrary target specifically the youth, and try to enroll them in the criminal cycle.
The result: pot can be found easily by very young people, on all corners of all streets. Your kids can smoke it easily, and even make a lot of money with it. Anyone serious about protecting the kids from drugs, and criminals, should fight prohibition. prohibition makes the drug easily accessible to the kids. They become victim of unregulated advertizing, and target n° 1 of the criminals.

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#14458 Jan 10, 2013
Bruno24 wrote:
<quoted text>
It can also decrease the use of dangerous legal medication, and the
Are you saying Doctors will prescribe pot instead of the dangerous meds like Ritalin and Prozac?

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#14459 Jan 10, 2013
Bruno24 wrote:
Also, making pot legal would decrease the use of it by the youth. All studies confirms that the use of pot increases with the severity of the repression. In The Netherlands, where pot is tolerated for adults, most young people do not smoke it, because they see this as a "stupid adult behavior".
Of course, this happens also because they know that the street pot is bad and abnormally expensive (sold only to ignorant tourists) and because in the quasi-legal and transparently tolerated coffee-shops, the vendor asks the ID, and respect it by fear of losing the job.
By making pot illegal, you offer the dealing job to the criminals, who not only never ask the ID, but on the contrary target specifically the youth, and try to enroll them in the criminal cycle.
The result: pot can be found easily by very young people, on all corners of all streets. Your kids can smoke it easily, and even make a lot of money with it. Anyone serious about protecting the kids from drugs, and criminals, should fight prohibition. prohibition makes the drug easily accessible to the kids. They become victim of unregulated advertizing, and target n° 1 of the criminals.
Because something happens in the Netherlands does that mean it's a model for USA? Do we have 99% of the same race? Why did you leave out that the Netherlands is a major producer and leading distributor of heroin, cocaine, amphetamines and other synthetic drugs? Yeah kids are now not doing as much pot but into more heroin....Great!
Largelanguage

Chester, UK

#14460 Jan 10, 2013
Bruno24 wrote:
Also, making pot legal would decrease the use of it by the youth. All studies confirms that the use of pot increases with the severity of the repression. In The Netherlands, where pot is tolerated for adults, most young people do not smoke it, because they see this as a "stupid adult behavior".
Of course, this happens also because they know that the street pot is bad and abnormally expensive (sold only to ignorant tourists) and because in the quasi-legal and transparently tolerated coffee-shops, the vendor asks the ID, and respect it by fear of losing the job.
By making pot illegal, you offer the dealing job to the criminals, who not only never ask the ID, but on the contrary target specifically the youth, and try to enroll them in the criminal cycle.
The result: pot can be found easily by very young people, on all corners of all streets. Your kids can smoke it easily, and even make a lot of money with it. Anyone serious about protecting the kids from drugs, and criminals, should fight prohibition. prohibition makes the drug easily accessible to the kids. They become victim of unregulated advertizing, and target n° 1 of the criminals.
How out of touch with the real world! Were you homeschooled in order to collect silly ideas? Most kids actually try to take alchol because they see it as being grown up. Teens actually attempt to be more grown up and try to imitate them. Ever heard of the phrase, "growing up to fast", or just far in your ignorance and folly?

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#14461 Jan 10, 2013
Bruno24 wrote:
<quoted text>
How the land of the free can be worst than North Korean communism in the domain of health remains a sort of mystery for me.
WTF are you babbling about? That North Korea has better health care? You might want to put down that bong and read the shit you write.
MakeUppers

Sierra Madre, CA

#14462 Jan 10, 2013
Your right again, you found the out of towners S hole, alright.
Bruno24

Belgium

#14463 Jan 11, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>Are you saying Doctors will prescribe pot instead of the dangerous meds like Ritalin and Prozac?
Notably.
Bruno24

Belgium

#14464 Jan 11, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>Because something happens in the Netherlands does that mean it's a model for USA? Do we have 99% of the same race? Why did you leave out that the Netherlands is a major producer and leading distributor of heroin, cocaine, amphetamines and other synthetic drugs? Yeah kids are now not doing as much pot but into more heroin....Great!
They have less consumption on all drugs. They have made pot quasi-legal, to be able to fight more seriously the other "real" drugs. But eventually, like in my country, they have add evidence that legalizing heroin and cocaine makes the consumption of those products much less healthier, and diminishing.

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