CA Proposition 23 - Global Warming

CA Proposition 23 - Global Warming

Created by CitizenTopix on Oct 12, 2010

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STP you

San Dimas, CA

#8356 Jun 11, 2014
Cam Cam your like a noise valve train, STP next time.
Cam

Palm Desert, CA

#8357 Jun 11, 2014
You're* STP? You've gone incoherent, again.
STP you

San Dimas, CA

#8358 Jun 11, 2014
Maybe your in need of having you values adjusted a little tighter this time around.
Cam

Palm Desert, CA

#8359 Jun 11, 2014
My values are perfectly intact. You have proven you have no values.

Since: Nov 12

Sacramento, CA

#8360 Jun 11, 2014
Rancho Navarre wrote:
I don't buy Chinese if I can avoid it. As for the world, I have a possible solution, but it's so cool i can't say what it is until I can BRING IT!- So I'm experimenting, investigating and WORKIN' ON IT every day. Have you ever been so happy you cried 'cause you just can't believe your good luck or success? I'm already there with my results and discoveries, but WE are still ape-pigs living an UNSUSTAINABLE LIE
that's been misidentified as "real life". The Chinese are just beginning to really acquire the ape-pig life and their pollution is ALREADY UNSURVIVEABLE.
My 'solution' has already saved me a shit-load of hassle and money. It has changed the way I see my everyday world and the choices I make.
- Soooo much better now... UM - uh, public trial-runs will begin this coming winter-
I bet by you avoiding made in China products (when you can) will lower the temps by at least .00000000000000000000000000001 degree. LOL How will you make the solar storms on the Sun less hot? Will you hang a big shade over us?
Factoids

San Dimas, CA

#8361 Jun 11, 2014
Page 34 and posting #8360
bio18

Catlettsburg, KY

#8362 Jun 11, 2014
For you dummies that think global warming is a fraud, go educate yourself on the topic. In fact, climate.nasa.gov will give you probably the most reliable information for you. It is obviously a concerning factor that needs people's attention..
Cam

Palm Desert, CA

#8363 Jun 11, 2014
Global warming is indeed a fraud, climate change has always happened and there is absolutely NO proof humans have a significant impact anymore than bovine flatulence does. You are the one that needs education. The only dummy is yourself. The scientists are biased and have been caught lying and manipulating data.

http://www.globalwarminglies.com/
Cam

Palm Desert, CA

#8364 Jun 11, 2014
bio18

Catlettsburg, KY

#8365 Jun 11, 2014
Cam wrote:
Global warming is indeed a fraud, climate change has always happened and there is absolutely NO proof humans have a significant impact anymore than bovine flatulence does. You are the one that needs education. The only dummy is yourself. The scientists are biased and have been caught lying and manipulating data.

http://www.globalwarminglies.com/
It is not a fraud. There is proof. There is a cycle in climate change and we are currently off that cycle, with abnormally high levels of CO2 in our atmosphere and high global surface temps. You're ignorant to global warming. You may learn something from NASA by clicking on the web link in my previous post.
Cam

Palm Desert, CA

#8366 Jun 11, 2014
There is no proof, because it is a fraud. We are not off the cycle, no one has proved we are. Global temperatures have been DECREASING despite higher levels of CO2, which is vital to our life. The only ignorance is your own. NASA has never proven anthropological climate change. Nothing in that link proves it has. I have seen it many times. My links prove you wrong.
bio18

Catlettsburg, KY

#8367 Jun 11, 2014
Cam wrote:
Global warming is indeed a fraud, climate change has always happened and there is absolutely NO proof humans have a significant impact anymore than bovine flatulence does. You are the one that needs education. The only dummy is yourself. The scientists are biased and have been caught lying and manipulating data.

http://www.globalwarminglies.com/
Yes climate changes and has been changing since its beginning. And no one that is truly educated on the topic thinks otherwise. There is a time when the earth warms up and then essentially retreats back and it starts all over again. The thing is, data shows that we are not retreating back, but continuously "warming." There is something obviously wrong. And it's obvious that the industrial revolution to the present has contributed to global warming. There is no question about it.
Cam

Palm Desert, CA

#8368 Jun 11, 2014
Also, there are MANY factual errors in your link. First of all, 97% of scientists do NOT say humans cause climate change, they simply agree climate change happens, naturally or otherwise. Every thing in there has been debunked and argued countless times. The simple fact is there is NO PROOF. Period.
bio18

Catlettsburg, KY

#8369 Jun 11, 2014
Cam wrote:
There is no proof, because it is a fraud. We are not off the cycle, no one has proved we are. Global temperatures have been DECREASING despite higher levels of CO2, which is vital to our life. The only ignorance is your own. NASA has never proven anthropological climate change. Nothing in that link proves it has. I have seen it many times. My links prove you wrong.
You obviously did not read anything. I'm terribly sorry that you lack in ability to read charts, graphs, etc. It's clearer than day what NASA is saying. They even put it into words that the current warming trend is most very likely human-induced.
bio18

Catlettsburg, KY

#8370 Jun 11, 2014
Cam wrote:
Also, there are MANY factual errors in your link. First of all, 97% of scientists do NOT say humans cause climate change, they simply agree climate change happens, naturally or otherwise. Every thing in there has been debunked and argued countless times. The simple fact is there is NO PROOF. Period.
Give evidence where this data has been debunked.
bio18

Catlettsburg, KY

#8371 Jun 11, 2014
Cam wrote:
Also, there are MANY factual errors in your link. First of all, 97% of scientists do NOT say humans cause climate change, they simply agree climate change happens, naturally or otherwise. Every thing in there has been debunked and argued countless times. The simple fact is there is NO PROOF. Period.
http://www.skepticalscience.com/global-warmin...

Hmm.. I think you're full of it. It says 97% of scientists DO believe global warming is human induced.
Factoids

San Dimas, CA

#8372 Jun 11, 2014
Page 384 and posting #8371
Cam

Palm Desert, CA

#8373 Jun 11, 2014
Obviously you can not read at all. The charts do not prove a thing, and only prove we're NOT having a significant impact. Also, NASA is extremely biased because they WANT the government to get more money from more theft and taxes. The government WANTS to spread lies and fears. I have provided you evidence, if you need more do a simple Google search. The IPCC now refuses to even debate because they know they have no proof. The only one full of themselves is you. That number HAS been debunked many times.

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB1000142...

There are hundreds of other links if you don't believe that one. Which is precisely my point. Everything NASA has said has been debunked.
bio18

Catlettsburg, KY

#8374 Jun 11, 2014
Cam wrote:
Obviously you can not read at all. The charts do not prove a thing, and only prove we're NOT having a significant impact. Also, NASA is extremely biased because they WANT the government to get more money from more theft and taxes. The government WANTS to spread lies and fears. I have provided you evidence, if you need more do a simple Google search. The IPCC now refuses to even debate because they know they have no proof. The only one full of themselves is you. That number HAS been debunked many times.

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB1000142...

There are hundreds of other links if you don't believe that one. Which is precisely my point. Everything NASA has said has been debunked.
Ok mister anti government. It's plain as day that there is an impact on earth's climate from us humans.
Just because it is proved that CO2 is actually a cooling agent, doesn't disprove that global warming is happening. There is obviously high levels of CO2 in earths atmosphere. What is the purpose of any cooling agent though? To cool something hot. So obviously there was a need to cool.
Cam

Palm Desert, CA

#8375 Jun 11, 2014
If it's plain as day why can't it be proven? Why is the climate currently cooling with record high CO2? You're too naive on this subject and are obviously not educated at all. Of course I'm anti-government. They're a corrupted, incompetent and tyrannical entity that constantly infringes upon us and lies. CO2 is NOT a primary greenhouse gas, water vapor is, and water vapor levels have not changed much at all. CO2 does NOT drive temperature, we know this. That is a fact. Temperature drives CO2.

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