Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 Full story: www.cnn.com 201,187

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Rocky Hudsony

Wooster, OH

#203233 Jul 17, 2013
Frankie Rizzo1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey ahole why are YOU using MY registered LEGAL profile
That's1 funny1. Silly1, but1 funny1.
Rocky Hudsony

Wooster, OH

#203234 Jul 17, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
There seem to be 4 camps
Those that want it for religious reasons
Those that want it for a way to collect extra government support checks
Those that want it as an excuse to molest children
Those that could care less about it but bring it up on forums that are about same sex marriage as a diversion.
None of those 4 reasons bode well for the idea, when folks get past those 4 reasons, then something might happen, but as long as those are the 4 camps, it will go nowhere.
He wasn't asking about SSM, as your answer addresses the concerns about it, it was about polygamy. Please stay on topic..
Rocky Hudsony

Wooster, OH

#203235 Jul 17, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
There seem to be 4 camps
Those that want it for religious reasons
Those that want it for a way to collect extra government support checks
Those that want it as an excuse to molest children
Those that could care less about it but bring it up on forums that are about same sex marriage as a diversion.
None of those 4 reasons bode well for the idea, when folks get past those 4 reasons, then something might happen, but as long as those are the 4 camps, it will go nowhere.
I'll help you out. they are basing their claims on religious and constitutional grounds. they are requesting the same consideration, however, for the same reasons that quiffies want SSM. Clear now, Captain Confused?
BTW. Those reasons that you mistakenly gave were invalid. You all said so, when they were used against the g4ys. You may not reintroduce them now.
Rocky Hudsony

Wooster, OH

#203237 Jul 17, 2013
Jonah1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Wait for it. This is the bigot's way of setting up a completely mis-representation of what was previous stated. Another example of this tired fundie routine is, "so what you are really saying...".
This allows the fundie to then go off on a tirade based upon something that they made up rather than what was actually stated.
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Actually anyone with half an IQ would realize that it would have to be "of my spouse". The fact that you are confused and think it could be either "me" or "him" shows how ridiculously stupid you are.
<quoted text>
If she was a surrogate, it wasn't her child now was it pumpkin? Honestly, don't you get tired of showing off how stupid you are?
<quoted text>
No dear, we're a full family. Not a damn thing you can do about it. Well, other than childishly post like you are doing. Your pathetic attempts to goad demonstrate your true character. You're a complete c*nt who doesn't mind showing off that fact.
Smile dear.
<quoted text>
I'm sure the children already understand, since they were told and are now practically adults. But please, don't let facts get in the way of continuing your sanctimonious condescension! Watching fundamentalist Christians show off how truly vile they are makes me giddy!!
<quoted text>
Well, being the busy bodied fundie that you are, you do tend to find the stupidest things to be interesting. It's like watching a turkey get excited over something shiny.
<quoted text>
No hon, I realize that c*nts like yourself find it reprehensible. I don't concern myself with what c*nts think.
But thank you hon, for demonstrating to anyone reading this thread what vile people fundamentalist Christians are. Bigots for Jesus!! Smile be-atch!
"Wait for it. This is the bigot's way of setting up a completely mis-representation of what was previous stated. Another example of this tired fundie routine is, "so what you are really saying...".
This allows the fundie to then go off on a tirade based upon something that they made up rather than what was actually stated." We've seen Chongo in action. no need to describe your routines for us, and mis-attribute to us.
"Actually anyone with half an IQ would realize that it would have to be "of my spouse". The fact that you are confused and think it could be either "me" or "him" shows how ridiculously stupid you are."
No need to change the wording, it was perfect already. "Partner" is fine.
"If she was a surrogate, it wasn't her child now was it pumpkin? Honestly, don't you get tired of showing off how stupid you are?"
This is where you claim that surrogate parents are not biological parents. Wrong, ass-munch.
"No dear, we're a full family. Not a damn thing you can do about it. Well, other than childishly post like you are doing. Your pathetic attempts to goad demonstrate your true character. You're a complete c*nt who doesn't mind showing off that fact."
This is where you cloddishly attempt to validate you mismatched family, and to justify your nonsense from earlier. While calling someone a c*nt is meant to display your debating skills.
"I'm sure the children already understand, since they were told and are now practically adults. But please, don't let facts get in the way of continuing your sanctimonious condescension! Watching fundamentalist Christians show off how truly vile they are makes me giddy!!" I'm sure that they do understand, you can't scam them forever. They are certainly aware that they are part of a freakshow.
"Well, being the busy bodied fundie that you are, you do tend to find the stupidest things to be interesting. It's like watching a turkey get excited over something shiny." you'd have a lot of time in, watching turkeys get excited, eh? Interesting times you have...
You're a full blown. We got the picture. so do your kids, who secretly hate you...
Rocky Hudsony

Wooster, OH

#203238 Jul 17, 2013
Jonah1 wrote:
<quoted text>
No, they were not both accurate. I easily demonstrated that. I did so knowing that by admitting to being a father I could then anticipate your intentionally hateful posts about my family.
Thank you so much for not letting me down. Opening the door for ugly people like yourself to show off in all their splendor how truly hateful they are makes me giddy!!
Never think for a moment that fundamentalist Christians won't always show off how truly ugly they are if given the opportunity!
Smile.
They were both accurate. you were born giddy. It is why you think that you and your ..."man" think that you have kids.
Rocky Hudsony

Wooster, OH

#203239 Jul 17, 2013
Poof wrote:
<quoted text>During the first fights over same sex marriage, the bible and religion where used as a way of denying marriage to gays and lesbians. In this nation we don't make laws based on religion. If the people whom want polygamy are doing so based on religion, the answer is no. Just as it was for denying same sex marriage. It works both ways. The question of polygamy was answered long ago.
Research Service 2
Christianity.6 These bodies of religious law may play as relevant a role in certain legal actions as
sharia might play in others.
In the United States, these religious laws have no legally binding effect on U.S. citizens because
religious laws cannot be adopted by federal, state, or local governments under the First
Amendment. Rather, individuals who identify with a particular religious group may voluntarily
subject themselves to such religious laws by their association with the community.7 For example,
if a particular religious sect or denomination requires its members to dress modestly, and an
individual who is a member of that particular group does not comply with the dress code, that
individual would be in violation of that groupís religious law. The individualís belief in the
religionís precepts would guide his or her individual actions, with any sanction for noncompliance
generally remaining a private matter between the individual and the religious group.
The individual would not be subject to any penalty by the government because the government
does not enforce such a dress code. Interestingly, this distinction between religious and secular
laws can become complicated when an action might be governed by both religious law and
secular law. For example, many religious denominationsí beliefs prohibit murder under their
religious code. Both federal and state laws also prohibit murder. Thus, an individual who
commits murder would be in violation of both a religious law and a secular law and may be
sanctioned by the religious group, the government, or both.
http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R41824.pdf
You're a schmuck. the Constitution guarantees them that right. they seek it, for love. Just the same reasons that the poofs used. To great success. Ask for money, and use "love" as the reason. Find some words in the Constitution that back up the claim. Bang! Irrefusable. Now, grant the same rights, for the same reasons. Unless, of course, you think that the Constitution can be disputed?
Rocky Hudsony

Wooster, OH

#203240 Jul 17, 2013
Poof wrote:
<quoted text>During the first fights over same sex marriage, the bible and religion where used as a way of denying marriage to gays and lesbians. In this nation we don't make laws based on religion. If the people whom want polygamy are doing so based on religion, the answer is no. Just as it was for denying same sex marriage. It works both ways. The question of polygamy was answered long ago.
Research Service 2
Christianity.6 These bodies of religious law may play as relevant a role in certain legal actions as
sharia might play in others.
In the United States, these religious laws have no legally binding effect on U.S. citizens because
religious laws cannot be adopted by federal, state, or local governments under the First
Amendment. Rather, individuals who identify with a particular religious group may voluntarily
subject themselves to such religious laws by their association with the community.7 For example,
if a particular religious sect or denomination requires its members to dress modestly, and an
individual who is a member of that particular group does not comply with the dress code, that
individual would be in violation of that groupís religious law. The individualís belief in the
religionís precepts would guide his or her individual actions, with any sanction for noncompliance
generally remaining a private matter between the individual and the religious group.
The individual would not be subject to any penalty by the government because the government
does not enforce such a dress code. Interestingly, this distinction between religious and secular
laws can become complicated when an action might be governed by both religious law and
secular law. For example, many religious denominationsí beliefs prohibit murder under their
religious code. Both federal and state laws also prohibit murder. Thus, an individual who
commits murder would be in violation of both a religious law and a secular law and may be
sanctioned by the religious group, the government, or both.
http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R41824.pdf
Save the cut-n-paste, charlatan, the Constitution trumps all.
Rocky Hudsony

Wooster, OH

#203241 Jul 17, 2013
Polyp Cam wrote:
Joanie Rage Stain is covering the earth like Sherwin Williams!
Pull the trigger, Joanie. Turns out that Trayvon didn't accept you after all.
Or Jeantel, or whatever her name was...
Rocky Hudsony

Wooster, OH

#203242 Jul 17, 2013
Poof wrote:
<quoted text>Really? Can you find some examples of same sex marriage that meet the 4 reasons Big D listed?
Those that want it for religious reasons.
No, religion does not apply, remember?
Those that want it for a way to collect extra government support checks.
Adopt-a-check. G4ys do it why point at it?
Those that want it as an excuse to molest children.
NAMBLA.
Those that could care less about it but bring it up on forums that are about same sex marriage as a diversion.
No-one has used it as a diversion, it is real.
Rocky Hudsony

Wooster, OH

#203243 Jul 17, 2013
Poof wrote:
<quoted text>ROFLMAO, Frankie are you a 3rd class asshat???
Aww, and you were trying so awfully hard to be funny. Pity..
Are you looking for a soulmate? Try ASS-HATS_R_US.com, you might yet score a friend..
Rocky Hudsony

Wooster, OH

#203244 Jul 17, 2013
Jonah1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually you did. You said it required a heterosexual couple. Do you need the post number again where you made that stupid claim? Why must you lie so if your cause is so just?!
<quoted text>
No? Really?!!!! OMGosh everyone, did you all know that a female is required in order for childbirth to occur? Quick, someone needs to get this information into the news!!!! Hurry!!! This is very important!!!!!
You also can't have a c*nt without a female. Thank you for demonstrating that so effectively with your ineffective and childish condescension.
<quoted text>
Wow! Now there's some made up fantasy!! Sorry bitch, but I'll take my children's word on the matter of that of a bitter cur like yourself! Smile.
<quoted text>
LOL!! No dear, you make it your business to lie, spread gossip, initiate discord and be a busy bodied bitch. There's quite a difference between that and protecting children from imaginary scenarios that you make up in your anal sex obsessed head.
My children neither need, nor want, your "protection". Neither do any other children of decent families.
<quoted text>
And yet I'm not behind bars, I've not been committed of anything criminal, my children are both great, and your still a bitter c*nt!
Smile.
<quoted text>
I just read that you completely make shyt up. Share this with the sheeple dear, no one else is buying your bullshyt.
<quoted text>
LOL!!! You get more pathetic everyday. if they had a contest for the most cowardly loser on Topix it would come down to you and Brian_G. You reek of desperation and skank.
You must be VERY confused about what constitutes a heterosexual couple....1 of each gender.
Yes, we knew that, you must not realize that we know that, if you are still trying to push the idea that:
1 you are gay.
2 you have a husband that gave you children.
See the problem? We are paying attention to the details, problem..
Your kids haven't been honest with you.
You will be, before you are done..c*nt.
That line about buying BS is a line that you have seen used against you. Try to be original, cupcake..
Rocky Hudsony

Wooster, OH

#203245 Jul 17, 2013
Frankie Rizzo1 wrote:
<quoted text>Don't make me report you. Stop using MY Name. Even the bums on 42 2nd street don't get away with that crap. Try selling oranges I bet you can make twenty bucks a day doing it. That buys a lot of crappy wine. Now get a job you dead beat, and stop sucking the teat of the Government.
Nice1 one1, Jizzy1
sheesh

United States

#203246 Jul 17, 2013
Common Man Watch wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm sorry, could you steer me to the parts you wrote about Martin being a petty thief and a homophobe?
Thanks in advance.
I've got a better idea. You steer me to the part I wrote about Martin being a homophobe. You might want to put the tea on, caffeinated, as you're going to be quite busy in a futile search.
Rocky Hudsony

Wooster, OH

#203247 Jul 17, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
Trayvon would have beat on Jonah1 just as surely as he did on any other crazyass cracka.
At Jeantel's behest...Bet she worked him up into a lather, and made him rage and get himself killed.
Rocky Hudsony

Wooster, OH

#203248 Jul 17, 2013
Jonah1 wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL!!! You know who else makes it their business to protect children you old biddy?
American Academy of Pediatrics
American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry
American Psychiatric Association
American Psychological Association
American Association for Marriage and Family Therapy
American Psychoanalytic Association
National Association of Social Workers
Child Welfare League of America
North American Council on Adoptable Children
Canadian Psychological Association
These EXPERTS all agree that children raised by sexual minority parents with those raised by otherwise comparable heterosexual parents have not found any differences in mental health or social adjustment.
These EXPERTS have stated that differences have not been found in parenting ability between lesbian mothers and heterosexual mothers.
These EXPERTS have stated that gay fathers are fewer in number but aren't any less fit or able as parents than heterosexual men.
So lets see. We have the actual peer reviewed research and testimonials from ten organizations specializing in the health and welfare of children, or we have the made up bunk of a fundamentalist Christian c*nt who has proven repeatedly to be intentionally deceitful, a liar, and a sanctimonious bitch. I wonder which side is right??!!!!!
Smile cur.
EXPERTS = secretly placed subsersives and operatives. Nice mouth. You kiss you daddie with it?
Rocky Hudsony

Wooster, OH

#203249 Jul 17, 2013
Poof wrote:
<quoted text>DUH why do you think Warren Jeffs went to the slammer, he married a 12 year old and a 15 year old girl. Its called polygamy. Have you looked into Islam at all? I have to tell ya putz, they marry em young, 9, 10 years old.
How polygamy affects your wallet
You may or may not agree with polygamist Warren Jeffs' lifestyle, and you may or may not think he is indeed the dangerous criminal the FBI says he is, but would you believe Jeffs and his followers are costing you money?
"Their religious belief is that they'll bleed the beast, meaning the government," said Mark Shurtleff, Utah's attorney general. "They hate the government, so they'll bleed it for everything they can through welfare, tax evasion and fraud."
It makes some sense. Polygamists have multiple wives and dozens of children, but the state only recognizes one marriage. That leaves the rest of the wives to claim themselves as single moms with armies of children to support. Doing that means they can apply for welfare, which they do. And it's all legal.
"More than 65 percent of the people are on welfare ... compared with 6 percent of the people of the general population," Shurtleff said.
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/anderson.coop...
Why did David Carpenter and Joshua Brown go to the slammer? Gay rape. Next?
Hypocrisy Watch

UK

#203250 Jul 17, 2013
sheesh wrote:
<quoted text>
I've got a better idea. You steer me to the part I wrote about Martin being a homophobe. You might want to put the tea on, caffeinated, as you're going to be quite busy in a futile search.
It's called sarcasm, shitferbrains. We all know that you human coffee tables are going to be hypocrites and give de Blacke Mon a pass because he too is listed on The Government protected species list.

Everybody knows he was a homophobe. Chantel or Latisha (or whatever her name is) told the world.

Imbecile.
Rocky Hudsony

Wooster, OH

#203251 Jul 17, 2013
Poof wrote:
<quoted text>DUH why do you think Warren Jeffs went to the slammer, he married a 12 year old and a 15 year old girl. Its called polygamy. Have you looked into Islam at all? I have to tell ya putz, they marry em young, 9, 10 years old.
How polygamy affects your wallet
You may or may not agree with polygamist Warren Jeffs' lifestyle, and you may or may not think he is indeed the dangerous criminal the FBI says he is, but would you believe Jeffs and his followers are costing you money?
"Their religious belief is that they'll bleed the beast, meaning the government," said Mark Shurtleff, Utah's attorney general. "They hate the government, so they'll bleed it for everything they can through welfare, tax evasion and fraud."
It makes some sense. Polygamists have multiple wives and dozens of children, but the state only recognizes one marriage. That leaves the rest of the wives to claim themselves as single moms with armies of children to support. Doing that means they can apply for welfare, which they do. And it's all legal.
"More than 65 percent of the people are on welfare ... compared with 6 percent of the people of the general population," Shurtleff said.
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/anderson.coop...
why did David Carpenter and Joshua Brown go to the slammer? Gay murder. Next?
Rocky Hudsony

Wooster, OH

#203252 Jul 17, 2013
Poof wrote:
<quoted text>DUH why do you think Warren Jeffs went to the slammer, he married a 12 year old and a 15 year old girl. Its called polygamy. Have you looked into Islam at all? I have to tell ya putz, they marry em young, 9, 10 years old.
How polygamy affects your wallet
You may or may not agree with polygamist Warren Jeffs' lifestyle, and you may or may not think he is indeed the dangerous criminal the FBI says he is, but would you believe Jeffs and his followers are costing you money?
"Their religious belief is that they'll bleed the beast, meaning the government," said Mark Shurtleff, Utah's attorney general. "They hate the government, so they'll bleed it for everything they can through welfare, tax evasion and fraud."
It makes some sense. Polygamists have multiple wives and dozens of children, but the state only recognizes one marriage. That leaves the rest of the wives to claim themselves as single moms with armies of children to support. Doing that means they can apply for welfare, which they do. And it's all legal.
"More than 65 percent of the people are on welfare ... compared with 6 percent of the people of the general population," Shurtleff said.
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/anderson.coop...
Why did David Carpenter and Joshua Brown go to the slammer? Gay.... you get the idea by now..
Rocky Hudsony

Wooster, OH

#203253 Jul 17, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
Interesting new thread. Come on over and discuss all things Jizzy! But especially why does he change his socks so often?
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/gay/TTC5AE53H...
Because, his socks stink.

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