Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

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A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#191472 May 8, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
<quoted text>
Polygamy isn't an equal rights issue.
Nobody has the right to marry more than on person.
Should they be able to?
Well, that's a topic for another forum
The legalization of pot isn't an equal rights issue, either.
Am I a bigot for saying that?
You truly don't understand your anti poly argument is the same one you rail against when used against same sex marriage?

That's amazing. You truly are stupid.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#191473 May 8, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
<quoted text>
Polygamy isn't an equal rights issue.
Nobody has the right to marry more than on person.
Should they be able to?
Well, that's a topic for another forum
The legalization of pot isn't an equal rights issue, either.
Am I a bigot for saying that?
If that were true same sex marriage is not an equal rights issue either. In most states nobody has the right to marry someone of the same sex.

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#191474 May 8, 2013
Rock Hudson wrote:
<quoted text>
But, these are examples of things that might be feared, not a definition of "fear". I didn't ask for examples of things to be feared, I asked what you defined fear as.
But
1) I have no fear of that, either
2) I believe that teaching kids about sexual orientation in elementary school is dead wrong.
3) Routines suck, at least to me.
4) I do believe that the traditional definition of marriage should be preserved, call me a traditionalist.
5) I've had more than a couple of friends with AIDS, and pitied every one of them, no matter how they caught it, but never shunned any of them.
6) They are living in denial. True hell there.
7) I've been hit on by a few gays, myself, as I am modestly aware of my attractiveness, and have (almost always) found it amusing to have "across the board appeal" as I call it.:D As per the unattractive ones, go figure, maybe they are living in hope?:)
Just off the top of my head I'd say that fear is an uncomfortable reaction to a person, place, thing, idea, or action. The level of discomfort may vary depending on a person's own belief system or life experiences. A person's fear can be rated as anything between slightly anxious to immobilized by terror.

When I spoke of fear in the post you referenced I was talking about fear of gays and same-sex marriage.

You clearly are uncomfortable with opening up the definition of marriage to include same-sex couples. And I would label that discomfort that you feel as "fear".

You, being a "traditionalist", fear change.
Just P

Covina, CA

#191475 May 8, 2013
There just pests, don't worry.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#191476 May 8, 2013
Just P wrote:
There just pests, don't worry.
Aw shuddup you silly jackass.

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#191480 May 8, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
I am not a homophobe. You are more a homophobe than I.
I can see no compelling reasons not to allow SSM. Heterosexuals are not interested in a same sex marriage just as homosexuals are not interested in an opposite sex marriage. So it IS a special right. Just as opposite sex marriage is now.
I support SSM but there are legitimate arguments against it and to marginalize and disrespect fellow Americans like you do over their wariness of this huge social change is despicable. And to simply dismiss legitimate (although not compelling) arguments by claiming you haven't heard them is arrogant, dishonest and stupid.
You want this radical social change, the burden is on you, not us. We're fine as it is.
Tell us why SSM should be allowed, don't insist we tell you why it shouldn't be allowed.
I doubt you understand all this being you are very angry and stupid. But others will.
LOL.

Thought you said you favored gay marriage.
Did you slip up?

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#191481 May 8, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
If that were true same sex marriage is not an equal rights issue either. In most states nobody has the right to marry someone of the same sex.
You are really, really stupid.
A woman doesn't have the same right a man has
A man doesn't have the same right a woman has.
Not equal.

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#191482 May 8, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
You truly don't understand your anti poly argument is the same one you rail against when used against same sex marriage?
That's amazing. You truly are stupid.
I don't have an anti poly argument, or a pro one for that matter.
Again, stupid, I'm just saying it's not an equal rights issue.

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#191483 May 8, 2013
These are the basic types of arguments against gay marriage.
1. God said, "Yadda, yadda, yadda."
There is no evidence god exists, let alone that he said anything in particular.
Next.

2. Gay couples can't reproduce.
You don't have to be able to reproduce in order to marry.
Next.

3. Gays have anal sex.
Most men into anal sex are straight, and it's really not and issue.
Next.

4. A child needs a mother and father.
Even if that were true, it's a separate issue, you can adopt a kid without being married.
Next.

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#191484 May 8, 2013
Ooops,
3. really not an issue.

Since: Aug 12

Location hidden

#191485 May 9, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
Narcissistic intent? LOL ( I will have to remember that one )
My children are not me, nor are or were they ever my property, nor my wife for that matter, if my intent was to create a duplicate of myself it was a dismal failure, or better, a fantastic success that they are not me.
Of course all my children support same sex marriage, because we taught them proper values, freedom, equality and justice, they are patriots, and support those values like all patriots do.
Of course they're not you. But they do carry your genes, and so are carrying on a piece of you into the next generations.(They may not be like you now but with age related people often have more in common and are more alike than non-related people)
That's nicely put about values, and a very good point.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#191486 May 9, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Gay twirl Bs.
Many transgendered function just fine without adjustment.
Homosexuality is a defective failure of mating behavior, not only exposed by the failure to mutually procreate, but also by the violent violation of sexual design.
Unlike a transgendered, you are attempting to impose 'surgery' on society to fix your defect. An imposter relationship imposed on marriage, and a pretend duplicated half of parenting at the expense of children.
So much for no negative impact...
Smirk.
veryvermilion wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you honestly believe 1/10th of the bullshit you say on here?
I mean seriously...
--"...defective failure of mating behavior"
--"...violent violation of sexual design"
--"...impose 'surgery' on society"
--"...pretend duplicated half of parenting..."
Do you see anyone else on this thread supporting this crap? At least most of the others on here who disagree with gay marriage have sense enough to know that you make this stuff up as you go.
When somebody comes up behind you and nails you in the ass, THEN you can talk about it being a "violent violation of sexual design".
Until that happens, don't knock it till you've tried it. Several million gay AND straight people can't be wrong.
So now you've shifted your losing argument to claiming stupidity...

I don't see anyone not knowing exactly what I am saying, OR having a logical retort if they disagree.

In fact, if you really are confused, please specify which facts I stated you don't understand?

Is it the duplicated half of parenting? Let me make it simple, just for you; God and nature gave every child one mother and one father. A ss couple can only give a child ONE of those, along with a pretend copy, while depriving the child of the other parental role.

As to your claim that I can only understand something is inherently harmful if I experience it, does that include shooting yourself?

Do you honestly believe 1/10th of the bullshit you say on here?
I mean seriously...

Smirk.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#191487 May 9, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL.
Thought you said you favored gay marriage.
Did you slip up?
No I didn't "slip up". You're just too stupid to understand my position.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#191488 May 9, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
<quoted text>
You are really, really stupid.
A woman doesn't have the same right a man has
A man doesn't have the same right a woman has.
Not equal.
Equal rights is not just about gender dummy.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#191489 May 9, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't have an anti poly argument, or a pro one for that matter.
Again, stupid, I'm just saying it's not an equal rights issue.
Again, stupid, it most certainly is an equal protection issue.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#191490 May 9, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
These are the basic types of arguments against gay marriage.
1. God said, "Yadda, yadda, yadda."
There is no evidence god exists, let alone that he said anything in particular.
Next.
2. Gay couples can't reproduce.
You don't have to be able to reproduce in order to marry.
Next.
3. Gays have anal sex.
Most men into anal sex are straight, and it's really not and issue.
Next.
4. A child needs a mother and father.
Even if that were true, it's a separate issue, you can adopt a kid without being married.
Next.
How about this one- If we broaden the definition of marriage to mean everything, it will mean nothing.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#191491 May 9, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
Ooops,
3. really not an issue.
Most straight men don't do anal sex. Most gay men do.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#191492 May 9, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't have an anti poly argument, or a pro one for that matter.
Again, stupid, I'm just saying it's not an equal rights issue.
http://www.secularhumanism.org/...
Big D

Modesto, CA

#191493 May 9, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL.
Thought you said you favored gay marriage.
Did you slip up?
He is like a little kid doing a play magic act that everyone can see through and we are just laughing and snickering
Big D

Modesto, CA

#191494 May 9, 2013
Stocking wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course they're not you. But they do carry your genes, and so are carrying on a piece of you into the next generations.(They may not be like you now but with age related people often have more in common and are more alike than non-related people)
That's nicely put about values, and a very good point.
I will give you that... my daughter has the same obsessive sense of humor, she finds humor in the most inappropriate things... same as me.

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