Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 | Posted by: Topix | Full story: www.cnn.com

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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No, not made up, I know them personally.
They are actually the first same sex couple I have heard using terms like that myself... but it certainly didnít bother me.
Interesting situation. So the wife, the female partner, apparently likes everything about a man but not the plumbing? Thus her choice of a female husband?
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No, not behind the times. There are 32 plus states that maintain the legal definition of marriage as a union of husband and wife. Some things are timeless.
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True, as it is with anybody. The state in which their relationship was called married by the states does legally recognize them.
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Okay.....legally yes....legitimately......conju gally?
Yes more states have come over every year

but I live in California, and there are 18,000 legally legitimately married same sex couples here now, the lawsuit against prop 8 is about why other same sex couples are being singled out over the matter of when they wanted to get married

No chance of prop 8 not being overturned, if not by the supreme court than by the next election by ballot measure

The time has come to do the right thing
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Good point. Do the other faiths and atheists get a free "get out of castration card?
I am aware that men fear castration as much as women fear being raped. Castration is a fitting sentence for the crime of rape.
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No, not made up, I know them personally.
They are actually the first same sex couple I have heard using terms like that myself... but it certainly didnít bother me.
The twins are cute :)
My son works for a VERY large global company that is actually considering pulling offices and manufacturing out of states that do not recognize equality for their married employees benefits if the Supreme court does not act decisively on a national scale ( not something I expect them to do )
Surprised me, but they can afford to
Not to worry there will still be a job at Chick Fil A for those states
interesting.

probably a company like google or microsoft. but i'm just guessing. that's pretty foward thinking for them.

what i'm faced with is working for an international company, based in a nordic country, that offers same sex spouse benefits. it also offers it in states that have same sex marriage civil unions recognized. however, where ssm or cu's aren't recognized, they don't. so, since i work in texas, nothing for us.

i do expect that to change once DOMA's ruled upon - and perhaps Prop 8 (depending on how they rule of course - for national recongition or just in CA).
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Interesting situation. So the wife, the female partner, apparently likes everything about a man but not the plumbing? Thus her choice of a female husband?
a person is always more than just their plumbing features.

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KINGSPORT, TN (WJHL)- former Mount Carmel Vice-Mayor William Blakely, exposed himself while driving. News Channel 11 had the only reporter in court for Thursday's preliminary hearing in Kingsport.
"I was scared that I was gonna wreck, he was gonna cause me to wreck," witness Deborah Sturgill said.
"It seems that every victim would tell the same story. But I knew all the victims did not know each other," Kingsport Police Detective Terry Christian said.
Personal accounts in Thursday's testimonies started the same - Blakely allegedly waving to get the drivers' attention, then escalating to honking and partially crossing over into the drivers lane.
Each witness testified they were fearful Blakely's driving would cause an accident.
"He was taking his hand, wetting his mouth, and masturbating," Sturgill said.
"At over 90 miles per hour, he had his penis out [the window]... he was masturbating... and that's when it got really, really bad. I wouldn't look over any more, and I wrote his tag number down on my hand, which I believe he noticed, and he exited very quickly," Street said.
Sounds like a disturbed man... This is not the behavior of a mentally intact person, be they straight or gay.

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Yes more states have come over every year
Hmmmmmm....32 U.S. states have constituionally defined marriage as a union of one man and one woman, there's only 50 states in the union...so at some point unless there is a change in the constitutional states, or the Supreme Court imposes SSM nationwide, more than half the country will be conjugal husband and wife states. SSM has a limit,
but I live in California, and there are 18,000 legally legitimately married same sex couples here now, the lawsuit against prop 8 is about why other same sex couples are being singled out over the matter of when they wanted to get married
No chance of prop 8 not being overturned, if not by the supreme court than by the next election by ballot measure
The time has come to do the right thing
California proved the people have no say, the constituional process the people followed, the rule of law proved to be a farce. What is the point of having the process, if the result is a federal judge over rules the people of the state?
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X Box! How ya doing? Nice selective out of context snippet usage. When did "gay" enter common usage to refer to homosexuality?
You can whine and pout all you like. SSM is here to stay, coming soon to all 50 States. You can either adapt to reality or go extinct.

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On the March 7, 2000 primary election, Proposition 22 was adopted by a vote of 61.4% to 38%, thus adding ß 308.5 to the Family Code, largely replicating the 1977 enactment. The one-sentence code section explicitly defined the union of a man and a woman as the only valid or recognizable form of marriage in the State of California. Proposition 22 was authored by State Senator William J. Knight, and the measure was dubbed the "Knight initiative" in an attempt to link it to the failed "Briggs Initiative" (Proposition 6 of 1978) that would have banned gays and lesbians from working as teachers in California's public schools. The California Supreme Court invalidated the results of Proposition 22 in 2008.
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Hmmmmmm....32 U.S. states have constituionally defined marriage as a union of one man and one woman, there's only 50 states in the union...so at some point unless there is a change in the constitutional states, or the Supreme Court imposes SSM nationwide, more than half the country will be conjugal husband and wife states. SSM has a limit,
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California proved the people have no say, the constituional process the people followed, the rule of law proved to be a farce. What is the point of having the process, if the result is a federal judge over rules the people of the state?
So you think that "the people" can just draw up any ol' petition and vote on it, eh? Are you forgetting about Judicial Review, or did youi never learn it in the first place?

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a person is always more than just their plumbing features.
Agreed H&M. It does make for an interesting psychological study. If a woman is sexually attracted to another woman, why would she choose a very masculine woman? No disrespect intended, just puzzled. The plumbing has got to be the primary reason. Yes?
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<quoted text>hey i just saw where you had been making out with your brother husband .. sad you two leave a nasty oil stain on the concrete in the driveway... next time at least put speedy dry down once your finished
quit pimping out your daughters for wooden nickels! Its just not right! Be a better parent and quit teaching your children how to be dirty $kank$!

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You can whine and pout all you like. SSM is here to stay,
Xbox...sigh...it is what it is, legal in a few states so far.
coming soon to all 50 States.
Time will tell...so far 32 state constitutions say otherwise.
You can either adapt to reality or go extinct.
Oooooooh...a bit of drama queen there. Poly want a cracker?
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Hmmmmmm....32 U.S. states have constituionally defined marriage as a union of one man and one woman, there's only 50 states in the union...so at some point unless there is a change in the constitutional states, or the Supreme Court imposes SSM nationwide, more than half the country will be conjugal husband and wife states. SSM has a limit,
Tell me about the Full Faith and Credit Clause.....

How can SCOTUS justify a couple being legally married in one State, but not in another?
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<quoted text>is it disel perfume for you today mixed with marlboro smoke... that oughta get your redneck brother fiance excited eeh
No its more like Seneca full flavors and chainsaw oil! Still stinking of whiskey, cheese, and hooker spit!? I'm sure you are!

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So you think that "the people" can just draw up any ol' petition and vote on it, eh? Are you forgetting about Judicial Review, or did youi never learn it in the first place?
No, not all. But as in California, how many time have the people spoken, have voted on a defintion of a relationship that applies to ALL men and women? Whats the point of allowing people to vote on such matters?

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No, not all. But as in California, how many time have the people spoken, have voted on a defintion of a relationship that applies to ALL men and women? Whats the point of allowing people to vote on such matters?
I hope you'll study the last question you raise in your post.

What, exactly, is the point of allow people to vote on such matters?

As far as I can tell from looking at the various propositions that have been voted on in CA since the early 70s there has never been such a proposition. It's unprecedented.

Just because a group of people get enough people to sign a petition to put an issue on the ballot does not mean that it should have been there in the first place.

And that was the decision of Judge Walker.
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Whatever...you're just a bigot...a plain old bigot.
She (Pole Dancer) has a card. Therefore she can be as bigoted as she feels and not be a bigot.

P.S. I don't have a card.
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No, not all. But as in California, how many time have the people spoken, have voted on a defintion of a relationship that applies to ALL men and women? Whats the point of allowing people to vote on such matters?
Pay no attention to "Xavier Breath" butting in, the big loudmouthed dopey yenta.

He's in Joisey and has absolutely no business butting his 2 cents in California politics. But of course that doesn't stop him from loudly spouting off dumb spiteful nonsense.
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Tell me about the Full Faith and Credit Clause.....
How can SCOTUS justify a couple being legally married in one State, but not in another?
They don't get to justify it. It's none of their business.

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