Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

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A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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heartandmind

Moline, IL

#187567 Apr 8, 2013
allusernameshavebeenused wrote:
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I think pretty much everyone is over the fact you muff out, or beat up who's ever a$$hole you want. None of my friends care about the Same Sex Marriage issue, nor anyone else I've talk to except old skool people, religious fanatics, or undereducated ignorant hillbillies. There's bigger issues going on in this world than who you wanna lay next to at night. I think this a bigger deal than it should be. If there's an institute that doesn't allow you to get married, Why not just say, "fk em" have your significant other legally change their last name to whoever is doing the pitching, give each other rings and call it a day. The only problem I have is when it's constantly pushed in people's faces, or they shut down city blocks and fk up the traffic bc of those fkin' parades, just so people can get drunk in the middle of the day to walk around with dildos on their heads in front of everyone without taking into consideration kids might be around. Plus, is it really any surprise California the biggest libtard state passed same sex marriage law? The land of government handouts. Please, get real this is not news, and it certainly is not surprising. As for the bigots, who gives a $hit about them? Let them keep wasting their breath on something that doesn't concern them.
sounds like you've been to one too many mardis gras parades down in New Orleans. those can get pretty scary, i'll give you that.

it's not as simple as you make it - it's not an issue about what anyone thinks feels or believes. at issue are those 1300+ priviliges extended to legally married couples and the laws that prevent same sex couples from marrying and utilizing and having access to those same priviliges.

many same sex couples have exchanged rings and vows but with no legal protections - these rituals were merely "for show" or emotional reasons. there was no legal rights that were suddenly open to them. there was no legal recognition of those rituals, performed in a church or not.
heartandmind

Moline, IL

#187570 Apr 8, 2013
Country-Girl22 wrote:
<quoted text>no love, we both work and everything we have we own together, now I suggest you shut your mouth cause you don't know sh!t!
congratulations on mutual home ownership.

my partner of 23+ yrs and i own 2 homes, a few vehicles, a boat and a trailer for vacations.....yet, when one of us dies, the other will have to pay inheretance taxes, despite both of us being on the titles, deeds and mortgages as well as the insurance policies for them all. we've both worked full time our whole time together in order to pay for all those things.

unlike you and your legal husband - when one of passes away, the other will not have to pay those inheretance taxes.

so how does that make sense? if we've both paid for the asset, then why should we have to pay inheretance tax when the other passes?

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#187571 Apr 8, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
Your pronouncements of doom are funny, Volcano worshipers have made such pronouncements too, as has countless other religions including yours, I value all of them equally. Islam is no better than your religion is, we won’t submit to them either.
I knew it wouldn't take the big Bigot long to respond to that one. Did you mean your religion too? The same one that pol pot and stalin endorsed. Did you mean you hate them all equally?

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#187573 Apr 8, 2013
heartandmind wrote:
<quoted text>
sounds like you've been to one too many mardis gras parades down in New Orleans. those can get pretty scary, i'll give you that.
I feel safer anytime in New Orleans then Chicago.

Since: Apr 13

Bellevue, WA

#187574 Apr 8, 2013
heartandmind wrote:
<quoted text>
congratulations on mutual home ownership.
my partner of 23+ yrs and i own 2 homes, a few vehicles, a boat and a trailer for vacations.....yet, when one of us dies, the other will have to pay inheretance taxes, despite both of us being on the titles, deeds and mortgages as well as the insurance policies for them all. we've both worked full time our whole time together in order to pay for all those things.
unlike you and your legal husband - when one of passes away, the other will not have to pay those inheretance taxes.
so how does that make sense? if we've both paid for the asset, then why should we have to pay inheretance tax when the other passes?
Sweetie unfortunately country fried is a bigot who believes the laws should only protect her!!!
Anonymous

Richmond, VA

#187576 Apr 8, 2013
poledancer45 wrote:
<quoted text>must suck for you knowing that the country is moving ever closer the equallity... sad for you hunh
you're not going to catch very many gays where I live:)
Sterkfontein Swartkrans

Pennington, NJ

#187577 Apr 8, 2013
heartandmind wrote:
<quoted text>
congratulations on mutual home ownership.
my partner of 23+ yrs and i own 2 homes, a few vehicles, a boat and a trailer for vacations.....yet, when one of us dies, the other will have to pay inheretance taxes, despite both of us being on the titles, deeds and mortgages as well as the insurance policies for them all. we've both worked full time our whole time together in order to pay for all those things.
unlike you and your legal husband - when one of passes away, the other will not have to pay those inheretance taxes.
so how does that make sense? if we've both paid for the asset, then why should we have to pay inheretance tax when the other passes?
You're right! It makes no sense at all!
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#187578 Apr 8, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
Well then if they know that, then there is no longer a reason to bring up procreation, sex or religion into the discussion as none of those are any requirement for a marriage
if no one else brings them up as a reason to not allow same sex marriage, then neither will I
Otherwise you get to see it again and again and again, as often as they bring it up.
Of course we both know they will continue to bring it up, and I will continue to point it out to the.
An no one cares if you like it or not
You care! Or else why would you whine so?
Anonymous

Richmond, VA

#187579 Apr 8, 2013
heartandmind wrote:
<quoted text>
congratulations on mutual home ownership.
my partner of 23+ yrs and i own 2 homes, a few vehicles, a boat and a trailer for vacations.....yet, when one of us dies, the other will have to pay inheretance taxes, despite both of us being on the titles, deeds and mortgages as well as the insurance policies for them all. we've both worked full time our whole time together in order to pay for all those things.
unlike you and your legal husband - when one of passes away, the other will not have to pay those inheretance taxes.
so how does that make sense? if we've both paid for the asset, then why should we have to pay inheretance tax when the other passes?
because you're not married! Believe it or not it does make a difference, you are not a legitimate couple.
Anonymous

Richmond, VA

#187580 Apr 8, 2013
poledancer45 wrote:
<quoted text>Sweetie unfortunately country fried is a bigot who believes the laws should only protect her!!!
Sry, no wrong again! You have absolutely no room to judge. You are at the bottom of the totum pole!

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#187582 Apr 8, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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How about one's OWN mother and father if at all possible? Why not one dad and two moms? What about a dad and grand dad? There are numerous possibilities.
Gee, did you miss some of my exchange with K Mart? I covered this already and he back pedalled after making a fool of himself. Claimed he knew what was going on.
Pietro Armando wrote:
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Why limit it to "couples"? Suppose two siblings wanted such an arrangement? Why should they be denied the "stroke of a pen"?
Is this back to the incest argument? I've already made myself clear on it. Do keep up.

Since: Apr 13

Bellevue, WA

#187583 Apr 8, 2013
Country-Girl22 wrote:
<quoted text>you're not going to catch very many gays where I live:)
you won't catch very many smart people there either.. stupid bigot
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#187584 Apr 8, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
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Unless I'm mistaken, the argument most often thrown around here is that heterosexual couples should have access to the benefits and protections of marriage PRIMARILY because they may have children.
The last part of my post was an attempt to show that there are a significant number of same-gender couples who have children. Shouldn't these be afforded the same protections and benefits under the law as opposite-gender couples who are married?
If you don't want to include children in the equation, then the fact that two, consenting, unrelated, adults who wish to partner their lives under the eyes of the government by way of marriage, should be a sufficient argument for same-gender marriage.
Don't try to throw in the ringer of plural marriage and incestuous marriages. They have already been found to be unlawful.
Same-gender marriage HAS NOTHING TO DO with incest or bigamy.
We are ONLY talking about same-gender, unrelated, consenting, adult couples.
So that's it? Too bad for them but polygamy "has been found to be unlawful."?

Not so fast slick! That was the same thing that was said about same sex marriage just a few short years ago. It wasn't a valid reason to deny SSM, it's not a valid reason to deny poly marriage.

Polygamy deserves the same respect and consideration as same sex marriage.

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#187586 Apr 8, 2013
Jaredb8 wrote:
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This is about gay marriage not bisexual marriage. One thing at a time.
So when does lesbian marriage come up?

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#187587 Apr 8, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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So you want to start a contest of horror parent/gay stories?
Please, how does that justify equating a duplicated redumbant half parents to biological parents?
This is your shift from gay troll twirl ad homoan attacks?
Smile.
No, just killing the myth that the biological parents are always the best choice. Face it, life is hard enough without having screwed up parents. Why not take the best that are actually available? If it happens to be a same sex couple who gives a shit as long as they provide a stable loving home and don't abuse the kids?

Speaking of twirl, that neatly sums up all of your posts with your made up terms, "redumbdant" and "ad homoan." Have you got any idea just how stupid you come across with your made up terms and your inability to distinguish your opinion from fact? That and your fake persona (the whole lesbian in a man's body) lead me to believe you're about 14 years old. But it is your creation and you're stuck with it. Maybe your next ID will be the product of a little thought.

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#187588 Apr 8, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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I comprehend fine, others do too. You attempt to change his argument that procreation is closely related to marriage into that it's a requirement for marriage. That's not what anyone has said and you know it. You're dishonest.
Exactly paisan! He pulls that all the time.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#187590 Apr 8, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>I feel safer anytime in New Orleans then Chicago.
Me too! Jizzybird58 ("just the facts" )lives in Chicago. Or at least he says he does, but he lies like a rug.

Since: Apr 13

Bellevue, WA

#187591 Apr 8, 2013
Country-Girl22 wrote:
<quoted text>Sry, no wrong again! You have absolutely no room to judge. You are at the bottom of the totum pole!
bigot

Since: Apr 13

Bellevue, WA

#187593 Apr 8, 2013
Randy -Rock- Hudson wrote:
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Here's a solution to that... Right before one of you dies, sign over all interest to the survivor. That way, you won't have to pay inheritance tax.
here's a solution legal ssm coming to all 50 states... thanks for playing
heartandmind

Moline, IL

#187594 Apr 8, 2013
Country-Girl22 wrote:
<quoted text>because you're not married! Believe it or not it does make a difference, you are not a legitimate couple.
we're not a legally recognized couple by the government. banks, lending institutions, credit card companies, insurance companies, and so forth have no problems issuing credit or mortgages to us with both our names on the documentation.

and yes, you're right - legal recognition does indeed matter.

gee, maybe you are starting to understand a little bit. that's great!

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