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Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

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A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Tantalizing

La Puente, CA

#185754 Mar 30, 2013
Where do ya go from here?
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#185755 Mar 30, 2013
Quest wrote:
<quoted text>
And yet you seek out and post on gay forums.
This is not a "gay forum".
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#185756 Mar 30, 2013
Tommy cochrane wrote:
<quoted text>
neither of them are very "prevelant"
and that is the reason that NOt many people are behind you...
lack of information.
That's what they said about SSM not very long ago.
Tantalizing

La Puente, CA

#185757 Mar 30, 2013
When is the next "fly over" scheduled with live bombs?
Tommy cochrane

Anderson, CA

#185758 Mar 30, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
That's what they said about SSM not very long ago.
true.....mabey your day is coming....

try being for some other groups rights first.... and then the karma you reap, will shine on you and your cause...

other wise??

you JUst dont deserve recognition....

simply because you wont do the same for others in the meanwhilst..

get a clue!!
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#185759 Mar 30, 2013
Tommy cochrane wrote:
<quoted text>
true.....mabey your day is coming....
try being for some other groups rights first.... and then the karma you reap, will shine on you and your cause...
other wise??
you JUst dont deserve recognition....
simply because you wont do the same for others in the meanwhilst..
get a clue!!
I support SSM, dummy. You need to get a clue.

If I was like you, supporting SSM but not poly or incest marriage, then I'd be a hypocrite like you.
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#185760 Mar 30, 2013
Randy -Rock- Hudson wrote:
<quoted text>
How on earth did even you get that all fu**ed up? In other words? What the hell are you trying to say? Because that isn't what Mike said, at all. Mike is FOR SSM, I am not. You've got your antagonists all askew...
Andy, or whatever he calls himself today, is another spun out post monkey. Although he is amusing. But wound up way too tight.

Did you catch his last nic? "hemp telelgraph" or some such silly sh!t? He can't even spell his own nic. What a dummy. Too funny!
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#185761 Mar 30, 2013
Tommy cochrane wrote:
<quoted text>
I stand by milk....
he is ONE of many heros..
after all, weve had to have ALOT of people step forward to move society in a progressive direction..
to fight such social recalcitrance as we see running rampant with the bigots and haters, on this thread.
you Obvious dont remember the orginal reason I brought milk up..
you are so eager to attack me for anything you can think of, that you dont slow down to read and learn.
Milk's strategy WORKED.... because THAT is why public opinion is swinging so fast...
because everybody knows someone who is gay....
and more and more people are taking Harvey Milks advice to heart, and coming out...
they are literally drowning your hate out in the lovefest they have created themselves by letting people know...
just look at randy's republican senetor, he finally saw the light.
Ive NEVER seen ANYTHING like it before....
and I am so proud....
of all those who have suffered bigotry from the words of the ignorant,....but still had the courage to come out, i salute you....
this is your time!!
Touching. Now go to bed jackass.
Tommy cochrane

Anderson, CA

#185762 Mar 30, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
I support SSM, dummy. You need to get a clue.
If I was like you, supporting SSM but not poly or incest marriage, then I'd be a hypocrite like you.
prove it!

I support what ever ya can muster mister!!
Spun Out Post Monkey

Anderson, CA

#185763 Mar 30, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
Andy, or whatever he calls himself today, is another spun out post monkey. Although he is amusing. But wound up way too tight.
Did you catch his last nic? "hemp telelgraph" or some such silly sh!t? He can't even spell his own nic. What a dummy. Too funny!
sometimes i let other people come up with my names....

that is a good one.

did i spell it right?

you can also call me

SOPM

thanks for your help....
Spun Out Post Monkey

Anderson, CA

#185764 Mar 30, 2013
frankie??

any relation to mikey??

“Dont hate cuz u aint me”

Since: Dec 09

Lynwood

#185765 Mar 31, 2013
Hi

“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#185766 Mar 31, 2013
"JUSTICE ALITO: Well, how are you aggrieved? "Aggrieved" means that you are deprived of your legal rights. And you don't think that you've been deprived of your legal rights because your rights -- your obligations under the Constitution supercede DOMA, and you haven't been deprived of anything that you're entitled to under the Constitution. So how are you aggrieved?"

From the DOMA oral arguments.

“Taste great in milk!”

Since: Aug 08

.

#185767 Mar 31, 2013
Happy Easter Brian!

“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#185768 Mar 31, 2013
Happy Easter C.B.!

From the SCOTUS DOMA oral arguments,

PAUL D. CLEMENT ON BEHALF OF THE RESPONDENT BIPARTISAN LEGAL ADVISORY GROUP OF THE UNITED STATES:..."Now, the second thing is the fact that DOMA affects all 1,100 statutes at once is not really a sign of its irrationality. It is a sign that what it is, and all it has ever purported to be, is a definitional provision. And like every other provision in the Dictionary Act, what it does is it defines the term wherever it appears in Federal law in a consistent way. And that was part and parcel of what Congress was trying to accomplish with DOMA in 1996...

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#185769 Mar 31, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
Happy Easter C.B.!
From the SCOTUS DOMA oral arguments,
PAUL D. CLEMENT ON BEHALF OF THE RESPONDENT BIPARTISAN LEGAL ADVISORY GROUP OF THE UNITED STATES:..."Now, the second thing is the fact that DOMA affects all 1,100 statutes at once is not really a sign of its irrationality. It is a sign that what it is, and all it has ever purported to be, is a definitional provision. And like every other provision in the Dictionary Act, what it does is it defines the term wherever it appears in Federal law in a consistent way. And that was part and parcel of what Congress was trying to accomplish with DOMA in 1996...
Yep, quote the irrational argument of the losing side.

Judge Kagan had a bit more to say about what DOMA was designed to do. In the very words of some of the people who created it.

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#185770 Mar 31, 2013
Tommy cochrane wrote:
<quoted text>
neither of them are very "prevelant"
and that is the reason that NOt many people are behind you...
lack of information.
Actually polygyny is a valid form of marriage throughout time and place, including today. Its legal in far more societies than SSM. The legal success of SSM has only boosted its chances for legalization. Additionally, two reality shows based on plural marriage families have increased exposure of such families. Soooooo.......as was once said about SSM.....

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#185771 Mar 31, 2013
Tommy cochrane wrote:
<quoted text>
I never said there was..
Very good Johnny Cochrane....is he still around?
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#185774 Mar 31, 2013
Spun Out Post Monkey wrote:
frankie??
any relation to mikey??
Mike DiRucci is a victim of Topix censorship of free speech.

Some posters and opinions on Topix are more equal than others.

“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#185775 Mar 31, 2013
JUSTICE KAGAN: Well, is what happened in 1996 -- and I'm going to quote from the House Report here -- is that "Congress decided to reflect an honor of collective moral judgment and to express moral disapproval of homosexuality." Is that what happened in 1996?

MR. CLEMENT: Does the House Report say that? Of course, the House Report says that. And if that's enough to invalidate the statute, then you should invalidate the statute. But that has never been your approach, especially under rational basis or even rational basis-plus, if that is what you are suggesting.

This Court, even when it's to find more heightened scrutiny, the O'Brien case we cite, it suggests, look, we are not going to strike down a statute just because a couple of legislators may have had an improper motive. We're going to look, and under rational basis, we look, is there any rational basis for the statute?

And so sure, the House Report says some things that we are not -- we've never invoked in trying to defend the statute.

But the House Report says other things, like Congress was trying to promote democratic self-governance. And in a situation where an unelected State judiciary in Hawaii is on the verge of deciding this highly contentious, highly divisive issue for everybody, for the States -- for the other States and for the Federal government by borrowing principle, it makes sense for Congress -
From the DOMA oral arguments transcript

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