Wal-Mart Wants Lima Store

' Wal-Mart announced it wants to build a "Supercenter" on a 53 acre site on Route 15A. Full Story
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tess1

York, NY

#1 Apr 28, 2006
why is it that so many Lima residents ingnore the fact that right in our village itself is a sad representation of Lima "the crossroads" of WNY? If you drive through Lima(which many people do) you see nothing but crumbling historical buildings and un attended store fronts, sidewalks, and parking lots. Maybe they dont notice the Holiday decorations that were thrown up and neglected to take down until months after the holiday? But I am sure residents of the town and village noticed the recent assesments and how they are only going up which will ultmately force the average Lima resident elsewere because they wont be able to afford living here. Perhaps Walmart could help Lima and bring in revenue to keep taxes down. Or maybe they can partake in boosting our town/village so people will want to come here, shop and spend their money. Lets get people to want to come to Lima. Not drive through it and say "what was that"?
Mike

Linden, NJ

#2 Apr 28, 2006
I hope that the Honeoye Falls Lima School District does not suffer. Who will pay for more police, road work etc. Rochester rd cannot and should not take on that volume of traffic. You can get to Walmart in 20 minutes from Lima. Good Lord, take a beautiful area and stick in a Walmart. Once that is in what's next? Loews? That road will be like Hylan Drive in 5 years.
Knock out the local folks , so they can work at Walmart? The lie of bringing in revenue, is all over the fact sheets as erroneous.
So Walmart sees 13 million dollars spent from Lima folks. Nobody better look at other stores netting your money.
Placing Walmart next to Honeoye Falls will do nothing to boost any part of Lima but the pockets of a few.
concerned citizen of Lima

York, NY

#3 Apr 28, 2006
I concur with everything you say. So far I have only read editorials in the paper giving negative points but yet to hear anything posivite about the posibilities of this matter. The people that are writing negative comments about this are (I think) directly affected geographically. In other words, they have the "not in by backyard" syndrome. Are they really concerned about the welfare of Lima? or are they more concerned about the physical building being in their eye sight? They refer to themselves as the concerned citizens of responsible development. I think everyone in Lima in a "concerned" citizen for responsible development but most of us desire some progressive action, instead of rejecting any large business that sees potential in building in Lima. I understand that some small businesses will be affected by this and may suffer some loss but if this opportunity is "shot down" the entire town/village will be affected. Our taxes will continue to rise and we, the residents of Lima, may not be able to afford to live here.
Kathy

York, NY

#4 Apr 28, 2006
What will additional police be needed for? I have never seen a local law enforcement at any other Walmart store. As far as traffic goes, Walmart has designed efficient and well thought out traffic patterns surroinding their newer stores in consideration of the surrounding areas. Also, I would much prefer to spent my money in my own town, not in Geneseo or Henrietta. If this location is denied for re-zoning,who's to say that Walmart won't by-pass Lima and build right around us further south on 15A forcing traffic right through the town of Lima anyway. Let's hear what they have to say and maybe work with them to create a project that we can all live with.
Mike

Linden, NJ

#5 Apr 28, 2006
Dear concerned,
I empathize with our situation. It is simply more than the geography. It is the new culture that Walmart brings with it. I pay taxes to HFL School District and really pray that is not adversly effecetd.
If bringing in Walmart is progressive, hang tight. You will have another Hylan Drive to combat. Oh, how is Walmart paying these days? Good benefits? Read deeper.
tess1

York, NY

#6 Apr 28, 2006
Mike, I myself was raised in a 100% all union household. My father was president of the local. We made our living through union labor. He himself is not fond of Walmart. But when push comes to shove and we have been given no future goals for Lima, we are forced to possibly take the best that has been offered. No other business has been proposed or will it ever? Can we really afford to let this pass us by. Storage facilities, mobile trailor parks and the likings of arnt going to help us as a community. As far as the school district, if we continue to develope\ residentially the tax base will only continue to climb. Perhaps we should take a look at all the tax exempt property in Lima and possibly reevaluate that situation to help with the school tax base!
beresponsible

Webster, NY

#7 Apr 28, 2006
Don't get me wrong...I'm not against development and neither are people that I'm talking to but WALMART? It's the neutron bomb of development. At 165,000 sq. ft.,it's bigger than the retail space of Lima and HF COMBINED!
Check out how many communities see lower taxes when WalMart arrives. I can save you time and tell you it's few to none.
School taxes make up a substantial portion of everyone's taxes around here so what happens when the HF business district gets annihilated? Fewer businesses paying taxes means residents have to make up the slack. WalMart gets subsidies for at least 10 years so it won't be them.
People need to really think through all of the impacts vs. the hollow benefits being promised.
What about the "slippery slope" that a development like this will mean for 15A? Once we rezone and let this in, there really will be NO PROTECTION from others that would follow.
The Planning Board does not have a "master plan" as guidance and does anyone think that WalMart will put an attractive site plan together?
Lima resident

Rochester, NY

#8 May 7, 2006
There is a small group of Lima residents that carry a lot of power with their money. Over the years they have stopped or tried to stop any new business in Lima. I like to know were the money came from to purchase the anti-Walmart signs. If we donít let Walmart come to town, Lima residents should never complain again about their high taxes. Its time for the average Lima resident to say enough is enough with high property taxes, and let Walmart come to Lima.
Lima resident

Rochester, NY

#9 May 7, 2006
There is a small group of Lima residents that carry a lot of power with their money. Over the years they have stopped or tried to stop any new business in Lima. I like to know were the money came from to purchase the anti-Walmart signs. If we donít let Walmart come to town, Lima residents should never complain again about their high taxes. Its time for the average Lima resident to say enough is enough with high property taxes, and let Walmart come to Lima.
Grassroots

AOL

#10 May 7, 2006
To say residents should be prepared to pay more taxes if the proposed Walmart is not approved is just a bad statement not to mention a false scare tactic. There is no correlation between the construction of a Walmart and lower taxes. An enormous Walmart will suck up town services, create pollution, snarl traffic, and forever be a financial and social drag on the great community of Lima. Look at the list of communities that have been devistated by Walmart. They will not lower our taxes, they will not provide sustainable jobs for us. Lets attract some more businesses like Bristol Tech. Bristol Tech. actually contributes positively to the tax base. Get the facts and be informed. Walmart will raise our taxes and dramatically increase our school taxes.
Lima Resident

United States

#11 May 8, 2006
Grassroots wrote:
To say residents should be prepared to pay more taxes if the proposed Walmart is not approved is just a bad statement not to mention a false scare tactic. There is no correlation between the construction of a Walmart and lower taxes. An enormous Walmart will suck up town services, create pollution, snarl traffic, and forever be a financial and social drag on the great community of Lima. Look at the list of communities that have been devistated by Walmart. They will not lower our taxes, they will not provide sustainable jobs for us. Lets attract some more businesses like Bristol Tech. Bristol Tech. actually contributes positively to the tax base. Get the facts and be informed. Walmart will raise our taxes and dramatically increase our school taxes.
I have not heard one town official tell Lima residents that a Wal-Mart will lower our property taxes, I did hear a town official say that a wal-mart will SLOW DOWN the rate of tax increases. What kind of business will come into a small town and LOWER taxes? Please someone tell me what other business has come to Lima and wanted to offer lower taxes and help hold sustainable jobs? Lima needs HELP!! If we pass this up, we're not going to be able to afford living here. If there is something better down the pipe..I could see saying no to WM. But there is nothing. Maybe a Wal-Mart could be good for us. It could bring in more businesses that could in turn help out with the taxes. We need something to bring in businesses and competition. Lima needs to be optimistic!
Mike

Linden, NJ

#12 May 8, 2006
Let's say No to WM. Believing that all will be better by letting 1 store in 1 fell swoop save the day is just not going to happen. We all want growth, but please understand the Walmart footprint is too big for Lima and surrounding businesses to avoid their demise. I keep hearing that you can't afford to live here.
Is it a 17,000 a year job people need? How many families are poised to fail if Walmart does not come in?
I would bet that more families will be adversly affected by Walmart knocking out current jobs at current salaries, than the few that are stating they need Walmart to sustain their current status.
Lima Resident

United States

#13 May 8, 2006
Mike wrote:
Let's say No to WM. Believing that all will be better by letting 1 store in 1 fell swoop save the day is just not going to happen. We all want growth, but please understand the Walmart footprint is too big for Lima and surrounding businesses to avoid their demise. I keep hearing that you can't afford to live here.
Is it a 17,000 a year job people need? How many families are poised to fail if Walmart does not come in?
I would bet that more families will be adversly affected by Walmart knocking out current jobs at current salaries, than the few that are stating they need Walmart to sustain their current status.
Not just one store..the possibility for more growth WM could bring. Not that we cannot afford to live here now, but years down the road b/c Lima has no businesses. Just a broken down old super market, nasty old bar, and a garbage company. Wow..Then how current would we be? And for those current salaries...If big m will pay more..their employees will stay with them as well as all of their supporters will continue to shop there. The fact is, people go where it is more affordable to shop and LIMA needs help!!
Mike

Linden, NJ

#14 May 8, 2006
Hey, I think we have a year to work at a better way to grow. Walmart will bring in new business, AND if you really think you would like Hylan Drive on 15A, than we will ALL be moving.
Main Street Lima

Rochester, NY

#15 May 8, 2006
Dear tess1:

Last count I had was 1.5 buildings vacant in the village and 1 is because that business expanded and built new one in the commerial zoned lots on 15A. Wal-Mart will only create more empty building. Office and light industrial is what is needed that can pay twice what Wal-mart does with the same non-skill labor. These are the types of business we need in here. Not Wal-Mart. Please research this topic BEFORE making your mind up.
LIMA

Rochester, NY

#16 May 8, 2006
I worked at WM over the holidays when I was 19 (10 years ago) and they not only paid me $9.50 but I was given a $250 Christmas bonus and a large discount! My neighbors neice worked for HFMP and made FAR less and I know for a fact most of these local businesses pay around $7 p/hr and employ at the very most a handful of people, so whomever keeps harping on WM low wages should know the facts, they pay a living wage, are one of the ONLY truely EOE employers I've ever seen. Hylan Drive is the location of every damed business thinkable and WM is hardly to blaim for the traffic! Lima is RUN DOWN.
Livin in Lima too

York, NY

#17 May 8, 2006
LIMA wrote:
I worked at WM over the holidays when I was 19 (10 years ago) and they not only paid me $9.50 but I was given a $250 Christmas bonus and a large discount! My neighbors neice worked for HFMP and made FAR less and I know for a fact most of these local businesses pay around $7 p/hr and employ at the very most a handful of people, so whomever keeps harping on WM low wages should know the facts, they pay a living wage, are one of the ONLY truely EOE employers I've ever seen. Hylan Drive is the location of every damed business thinkable and WM is hardly to blaim for the traffic! Lima is RUN DOWN.
I agree!! Everyone I talk to agrees. Trust me. We have only begun!!!!!!!
Lima Resident

United States

#18 May 8, 2006
Main Street Lima wrote:
Dear tess1:
Last count I had was 1.5 buildings vacant in the village and 1 is because that business expanded and built new one in the commerial zoned lots on 15A. Wal-Mart will only create more empty building. Office and light industrial is what is needed that can pay twice what Wal-mart does with the same non-skill labor. These are the types of business we need in here. Not Wal-Mart. Please research this topic BEFORE making your mind up.
But don't people think that with a big name like WM, more businesses will be drawn to Lima? If you ask all of the businesses near that proposed location except for BM, I'm sure they are pretty interested to see what happens. I think they probably want it. Look at how it will benefit their business. I already know one of the businesses almose accross the street really wants it to happen. How many shops did the BM close when it opened in Lima? Progress.. I just wonder if people would be as against this if it were a super Target opening up instead of Wal-Mart.
Main Street Lima

Rochester, NY

#19 May 8, 2006
Lima Resident wrote:
<quoted text> But don't people think that with a big name like WM, more businesses will be drawn to Lima? If you ask all of the businesses near that proposed location except for BM, I'm sure they are pretty interested to see what happens. I think they probably want it. Look at how it will benefit their business. I already know one of the businesses almose accross the street really wants it to happen. How many shops did the BM close when it opened in Lima? Progress.. I just wonder if people would be as against this if it were a super Target opening up instead of Wal-Mart.
At the long Town Board meeting you would have heard from many of those businesses. Rose at the American Hotel said it would bring her more business, but she does not want it. A big box of any type is not needed. There are many businesses here, some I did not know about til resent. Steady managable growth with many smaller business paying full propery tax is better and one big one that causes more traffic.
Using our Children

York, NY

#20 May 9, 2006
Main Street Lima wrote:
<quoted text>
At the long Town Board meeting you would have heard from many of those businesses. Rose at the American Hotel said it would bring her more business, but she does not want it. A big box of any type is not needed. There are many businesses here, some I did not know about til resent. Steady managable growth with many smaller business paying full propery tax is better and one big one that causes more traffic.
I have a solution.... Lets build another church with tons of housing. This way, Walmart wont come in and we can support our tax exempt!!!! Seeing no one has a problem with that, it will be a perfect solution. Lets start a petition. I'll take care of the posters. And better yet, I'll USE our local children to solicit this by arranging for them to wear buttons to school for our cause! ISNT IT ENOUGH THAT YOU CAN AFFORD TO CAMPAIN WITH POSTERS. DO YOU REALLY HAVE TO USE INNOCENT CHILDREN IN YOUR TACTICS TO KEEP WALMART OUT. COME ON.!!!!!!!!!IM AM TOTALLY DISSAPOINTED AT THIS. SHAME ON THE ADULTS. KEEP OUR CHILDREN OUT OF IT. DONT USE THEM FOR ADVERTISEMENT.

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