dFb

Brandon, MS

#1 Dec 5, 2012
Sure it was an accident but it is everything leading to these cases (deaths) that are questionable. Facts are skewed, test results are changed, samples are altered and the silver tongue swoons your community and elected leaders. This has been the case for many years but has gotten worse.

The steam coming from the scrubber? Acid rain. The parking lot below it has proven evidence in the paint etching of their windshields.

Countless number of employees with cancer (that the company denies responsibilty for). Environmental instrumentation and alarms design to protect the employees, either not calibrated, not working or non existant.

Fires? Too many to count. Near miss accidents....more than you can log.

Measures to indicate HF acid release? A stainless tube into a sample jar out in the open...if it changes colors? Oh, there's a HF release.

There is more product underground than there is in the storage tanks.

SO2/ SO3 releases? Many undocumented. The list goes on and on and many are under the watch of the current EH&S director.

Is the Valero Refinery REALLY a good neighbor?
zontormasterof1

United States

#2 Dec 13, 2012
valero was fined and cited for numerous safety violations that directly caused the march incident;had they adequately addressed the problems cited in the TOSHA citation the Dec 3rd incident would not have occurred and a man would not be dead. Employers are responsible for evaluating hazards and mitigating them as much as possible. In both the march and december incidents a lack of proper implementation of process controls and job oversight directly resulted in the death of employees. To blithely state that "they know it's dangerous when they work there" is a specious argument. Dangers in the workplace are evaluated and measures are taken daily at facilities across the country to reduce said dangers; Valero has a track record of talking very strongly about safety while being inept at actually implementing it in thier operations. Procedures are useless if supervision does not actively ensure they are being followed.
Before anyone responds with "how dare you judge, you don't know the facts" I do know the facts, I have the TOSHA citation which was provided to Valero in August and I am familiar with the essentials of what happened on Dec 3rd. I have been involved with industrial processes for over 35 years and both these incidents reveal a lack of proper evaluation of hazards and a lack of implementation of controls to prevent injury or death.
Wizard

Corinth, MS

#3 Dec 18, 2012
zontormasterof1 wrote:
valero was fined and cited for numerous safety violations that directly caused the march incident;had they adequately addressed the problems cited in the TOSHA citation the Dec 3rd incident would not have occurred and a man would not be dead. Employers are responsible for evaluating hazards and mitigating them as much as possible. In both the march and december incidents a lack of proper implementation of process controls and job oversight directly resulted in the death of employees. To blithely state that "they know it's dangerous when they work there" is a specious argument. Dangers in the workplace are evaluated and measures are taken daily at facilities across the country to reduce said dangers; Valero has a track record of talking very strongly about safety while being inept at actually implementing it in thier operations. Procedures are useless if supervision does not actively ensure they are being followed.
Before anyone responds with "how dare you judge, you don't know the facts" I do know the facts, I have the TOSHA citation which was provided to Valero in August and I am familiar with the essentials of what happened on Dec 3rd. I have been involved with industrial processes for over 35 years and both these incidents reveal a lack of proper evaluation of hazards and a lack of implementation of controls to prevent injury or death.
I know the Guys in the Dec. 3rd. deal in Memphis , and I wish you would talk with the worker that was along side of Dan when the site glass blew out ...
zontormasterof1

United States

#4 Dec 18, 2012
Wizard wrote:
<quoted text> I know the Guys in the Dec. 3rd. deal in Memphis , and I wish you would talk with the worker that was along side of Dan when the site glass blew out ...
done.this will not be pushed under the table.

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