Justice For David Camm

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WE CONTINUE TO FIGHT FOR: THE ADMISSION OF EVIDENCE JUSTICE FOR KIM, BRAD & JILL FREEDOM FOR DAVID CAMM THE TRUTH...THE SIMPLE TRUTH On September 28, 2000, Kimberly, Bradley, and Jill Camm were shot to death in the Camm family garage, located in Georgetown, Indiana, just a few miles from Louisville, Kentucky. The Indiana State Police (ISP) responded to the scene, as did the local prosecutor, Stanley Faith, who called for the assistance of a blood stain and crime scene re-constructionist. Three days after the crimes occurred, the husband of Kim and the father of Jill and Brad, David Camm, was arrested. In early 2002 David Camm was convicted of their murders and sentenced to 195 years in the Indiana Department of Corrections. Case solved. Case closed. In August, 2004, the Indiana Court of Appeals overturned Camm's conviction. Camm got a new trial. In November, 2004, Prosecutor Keith Henderson recharged Camm after having a "Fresh Eyes" team re-investigate the crime. Camm was re-charged. In March, 2005, another man, Charles Darnell Boney, was charged with murder and conspiracy to commit murder. Camm was re-charged with Boney. In February, 2006, Boney was convicted and sentenced to 225 years in prison. Camm was convicted in March, 2006, and sentenced to life in prison without parole. Case solved. Case closed. Those are the facts of this case. Well, at least a few facts. Most people in the metropolitan area of Louisville are convinced that David Camm is a molester and murderer. They are convinced that Charles Boney helped him in some shape, manner, or form. There are those who know many more facts that are thoroughly convinced of David Camm's innocence and continue to fight for him and his family. Full Story
EdSed

Motherwell, UK

#21 Mar 25, 2009
LMFAO wrote:
he should get what he deserves.... the innocent people in this are dead....9406
Mr Camm is not dead, so it seems that one innocent person in 'this' is alive? There is no convincing evidence linking him to the crime and what went wrong with the investigation and prosecutions is now fairly clear. You should be far more worried about that.

Character assassination is fairly common in wrongful convictions. It is possible some of the allegations may have been unfounded. Many people think he is a liar, but there is no evidence of this that I am aware of. In any case, infidelity is not that uncommon in western society. As the court of appeal pointed out in 2004, the allegations of infidelity have no bearing on the charges of murder anyway.

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#22 Mar 25, 2009
Very good reply Edsed.

Belle
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yea right

Irving, TX

#23 Mar 25, 2009
ok, so he loved his family...... loved his wife.... I believe that if you love someone you dont screw around on them.... maybe she found out about all his affairs n thats why he did what he did... glad I'm not your wife EdSed....
EdSed

Motherwell, UK

#24 Mar 25, 2009
yea right wrote:
ok, so he loved his family...... loved his wife.... I believe that if you love someone you dont screw around on them.... maybe she found out about all his affairs n thats why he did what he did... glad I'm not your wife EdSed....
Lol. May I point out that I do not 'screw around' and I am not defending any extra-marital affairs he may have been involved in. I am not suggesting anyone like or praise Mr Camm, I was just pointing out that there is an extremely high probability that this is a miscarriage of justice. Can you point to a more likely one?

Mr Camm co-operated fully with the police from the start and appears to have been convicted on misleading forensic evidence and due to an extremely faulty investigation of the crime.
From what I understand

United States

#25 Mar 26, 2009
Wasn't the blood on his shirt, blood spatter rather than transfer??? If your not in the area how do you get spatter... hmmmm
FIREBALLXL5

New Albany, IN

#26 Mar 26, 2009
If there is anyone out there still believing in CAMM"S innocence, please listen to the evidence.
He was charged in two separate counties for the murder of his wife and innocent children. I firmly believe that he killed his wife because she found out about him molesting his daughter. If he didn't then he knows who did and is protecting them. She filed for divorce and tried to get away. Charles Boney was just a patsy that Camm knew. I don't believe he had anything to gain at killing Jill Camm and her children. He was going to be killed himself, but the gun jammed. Mow the gun is missing. What is totally clear, is that David Camm is an excellent liar and murderer and he has convinved himself and others that he did not kill his wife and kids. If you are a believer in Camm, keep it to yourself. He's Guilty, Guilty, Guilty!
FIREBALLXL5

New Albany, IN

#27 Mar 26, 2009
From what I understand wrote:
Wasn't the blood on his shirt, blood spatter rather than transfer??? If your not in the area how do you get spatter... hmmmm
Yes, it was splatter and it dried. It can't transfer when it dried. That was proven in two courts.
lala

Indianapolis, IN

#28 Mar 26, 2009
I think he did it. Officers offten suffer from psychosis caused by working nights and lack of sleep. I think he came home in a state of mind were he saw his family as a threat and killed them.

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#29 Mar 26, 2009
FIREBALLXL5 wrote:
If there is anyone out there still believing in CAMM"S innocence, please listen to the evidence.
He was charged in two separate counties for the murder of his wife and innocent children. I firmly believe that he killed his wife because she found out about him molesting his daughter. If he didn't then he knows who did and is protecting them. She filed for divorce and tried to get away. Charles Boney was just a patsy that Camm knew. I don't believe he had anything to gain at killing Jill Camm and her children. He was going to be killed himself, but the gun jammed. Mow the gun is missing. What is totally clear, is that David Camm is an excellent liar and murderer and he has convinved himself and others that he did not kill his wife and kids. If you are a believer in Camm, keep it to yourself. He's Guilty, Guilty, Guilty!
Your very wrong.
Kim did [BOLD]NOT[/BOLD] file for divorce.
He also did NOT molest his daughter.

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#30 Mar 26, 2009
David was no longer a ISP officer at the time.

Belle
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#31 Mar 26, 2009
The Blood on David's t-shirt was transfer.
Of course it was dried. They did not take that until way after the fact.
It was transfer from when he tried to resucitate Brad.

Belle
EdSed

Motherwell, UK

#32 Mar 26, 2009
From what I understand wrote:
Wasn't the blood on his shirt, blood spatter rather than transfer??? If your not in the area how do you get spatter... hmmmm
This refers to the misleading forensic evidence. It was disputed at the trials but was accepted by two judges and two juries. General consensus in the forensic community seems to be that it is not necessarily blow-back from a weapon as Mr Englert claimed. This is indeed the principle problem with this prosecution. It is the only convincing evidence that Mr Camm is anything but totally innocent. It now seems quite clear that this evidence cannot be relied upon, but that was not the impression that the judge and juries had at the trials.

The case is in front of the Supreme Court of Indiana at the present time. Such courts are notorious throughout the English speaking world for their reluctance to overturn jury verdicts, so it will be interesting to see what they decide.
EdSed

Motherwell, UK

#33 Mar 26, 2009
For those who do not feel certain he is guilty, I offer some useful links regarding this case.
http://www.justicefordavidcamm.com/
The Camm website is very good.

http://www.wlky.com/davidcamm/index.html
Here is some of the best news coverage.

http://books.google.com/books...
The Book of the case is called One Deadly Night, by J Glatt. This link offers a view of it.

http://www.justiceforsionjenkins.org.uk/
A mistake was made on blood spatter evidence in the Sion Jenkins case in the UK, 150 blood spots. Mr Camm was convicted essentially on the matter of just 8 in Area 30 of his tee shirt.(See WLKY site). The prosecutor explained that nobody at the gym noticed them because they were so tiny. All that means is that they may have exceeded 100 ft/sec. The fastest recorded sneeze is 145 ft/sec, I think. That they are transfer is not ruled out by experts in general.

http://www.facesofwrongfulconviction.org/
The USA may be leading the western world in wrongful convictions these days. This case is important because it highlights many of the reasons for wrongful convictions. The problem with eye-witness testimony is well understood now, but maybe many of the problems with forensic evidence have not been widely digested by the general public?

http://www.newsleader.com/article/20090323/NE...

From:
http://books.nap.edu/openbook.php...
“..most disciplines in the profession are hindered by a lack of enforceable standards for an interpretation of data”.

This last link offers clues to what may to have gone wrong in both the Camm and Jenkins cases. Expert opinion was divided and it was left to the lay judges and juries to decide. Why would they be certain of what the experts cannot agree on? They simply choose who sounds most convincing at the time. Possibly, the prosecution experts having more money than the defence might have been a factor.

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#34 Mar 26, 2009
Thank you for posting that Edsed.
I did not have time to get back on this one to post anything else.
It looks like you have covered that for me.

Belle
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EdSed

Motherwell, UK

#35 Mar 27, 2009
Ky Southern Belle wrote:
Thank you for posting that Edsed.
I did not have time to get back on this one to post anything else.
It looks like you have covered that for me.
Belle
TOPIX Editor
Glad to oblige. I think the Indiana Supreme Ct are likely to decide sometime this summer? Good luck with your posts and thanks for your kind remarks.
So IN Bulldog

Louisville, KY

#36 Mar 30, 2009
I do not know Mr. Camm even though we went to the same H.S. and graduated in the same class - different circles I guess. What I do know is that I have followed this case and listened to the evidence. Common sense and logic as well as evidence convinces me without doubt that he is guilty as convicted. How do you explain away the brain matter wrapped into the weaves of his t-shirt? The blood splatter makes complete sense as well. I personally believe that he wore a jacket which he took off and disposed of thinking he was without any spatter. This explains why it was on the bottom of his shirt which was probably hanging out.
NO WAY I will ever be convinced that Boney drove out to the boonies and committed this act spontaneously or randomly - IT makes NO SENSE at ALL. I was there in the courtroom the night they convicted him and I believe he was more involved than he claimhs and helped David commit the crime, but David was the one that planned this crime and I personally don't think he will ever get out of prison. He is guilty and will not get a 3rd trial. Even if he does - GUILTY again in my opinion.

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#37 Mar 30, 2009
Please read the explanation of the Blood TRANSFER at www.juticefordavidcamm.com

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jimmy

Pekin, IN

#38 Mar 30, 2009
I wish that the other blog was working.. I got a lot of usefull things out of it.. I was wondering if there was news of David Camm!! this Year??? that web Justicefordavidcamm.com Sucks.. Thay should have a Blog on it with new news.. and other things.. I wish the jury members would talk about the case. and say why thay found him gulty? me?? I dont know.. if I did I would not be writeing on this.. I would hate to see someone who did not do it stay in [ prison wtlife!!]If youall know more about this, I wish U would write about it.. love to read your thoughts on this matter..

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#39 Mar 30, 2009
Here is a Forum that has alot more Information on it too. It is a discussion forum with people for and against.
BUT they will answer ANY questions you have.

http://community.cnhi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/...

Belle
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#40 Mar 30, 2009
IF you have any questions I can answer BUT sometimes it will take me a couple days to get back to here.
I cover 15 cities on TOPIX alone.

Belle

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