Retired cop: Police were wrong

Retired cop: Police were wrong

There are 312 comments on the Newsday story from Jun 11, 2007, titled Retired cop: Police were wrong. In it, Newsday reports that:

Lou Balestrieri finds himself in a most undesirable position. He's a retired New York Police Department detective trying to prove that Nassau County police tried to whitewash a case involving three men who ...

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typical

Huntington Station, NY

#22 Jun 12, 2007
what about the gun, Lou?
what about the gun, Lou?
what about the gun, Lou?
what about the gun, Lou?
what about the gun, Lou?
OW PLEAZZZZZZZZZ

United States

#23 Jun 12, 2007
Im sure he has helped someone in his family, whether it be a speeding ticket, ill use every cop friend I know to get out of a speeding ticket, face it its never going to change, so his son got beat up, stop acting so high and mighty. embarrassment to NYPD-havent they had enough embarrassment
FF Jack

Brentwood, NY

#24 Jun 12, 2007
When he's on the receiving end of courtesy, there's most likely no complaints. When something doesn't go his way he's quick to promote himself and his cause. Very sad and a poor example all the way around.

I don't know what all the fuss is about. The normal plea bargaining process won't be affected by the change in charges. A guilty plea to Discon and suspended sentence will be the result anyway.

Be careful son, don't bite off more than you can chew. Next time sonny should just walk away.
Alyssa Miller

Mckinleyville, CA

#25 Jun 12, 2007
I've had screwed up experiences with suffolk and nassau county cops. While living in Ronkonkoma, I was assaulted by my girlfriend's estranged brother, an off duty cop, who had broken into her house. The police did nothing.
Less than a year later, living in huntinton station, I got beat up by an undercover officer of some sort, I think he may have been DEA, because I parked in a public street, in the spot where he liked to park his car. He beat the crap out of me, I had a black eye, scratches and bruises everywhere, and the cops would not let me go to the hospital. Then they wouldn't let me press assault charges, and because I tried (very unsuccesfully) to defend myself from a man twice my size, they let him press harrassment charges against me. So I had to go to court and take an ACOD for getting beat up, got stuck with medical bills, and got emotionally harrassed by other officers in the process. Suffolk and Nassau county cops are, for the large part, a bunch of dirty underhanded pigs.
Alyssa Miller

Mckinleyville, CA

#26 Jun 12, 2007
Oh, btw, my brother recently became an NYPD officer. I think he recieved fabulous training and saw him become a better person in the process. I have nothing against cops, just corrupt ones.
watch your kids

Brooklyn, NY

#27 Jun 12, 2007
typical wrote:
what about the gun, Lou?
what about the gun, Lou?
what about the gun, Lou?
what about the gun, Lou?
what about the gun, Lou?
Where does it say that a gun was involved?
you are stupid

Brooklyn, NY

#28 Jun 12, 2007
DeniseWhite wrote:
Now it's corruption? If it wasn't for a free test, you wouldn't have been a cop.
You represent the caliber of NYPD finishing the academy today.
For your information the test was NOT free when he took it. Some of us are Police Officers to help idiots like you!!!
Queens

AOL

#29 Jun 12, 2007
Lou, there should be more people like you. 3 against 1 and your son is in the car with a seatbelt on - yeah, that sounds fair! Sounds to me like the 3 "tough guys" are nothing but "wannbe's" and need some old fashion punishment. I'm sure their mommy's & daddy's are too good for that. That's why they have a bunch of spoiled brats. They should remember - what goes around comes around and I'm sure one day they'll get there's.
Good luck to you and your son.
silvia storm

AOL

#30 Jun 12, 2007
its apparant that those who are commenting negatively on mr. balestrieri's complaints against the ncpd are deliberately confusing the issues. it would seem that they are forgetting that victims need not be perfect to be entitled to justice. police cannot choose whether to investigate a complaint based on a victim's prior history; rather,it is the instant case that must determine their prompt investigation. we, as citizens and and tax payers, are certainly entitled to rely not only on the immmediate and solicitous response of those paid and sworn to keep the peace and uphold the law, but , on the impartial investigation of all facts relating to any infraction thereof. as a parent, i would be outraged if my injured child had to leave a hospital bed to appear for any reason...and even more outraged if i felt that because of " connections" or "nepotism", persons who harmed my child were not prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. it is imperative that all citizens be able to rely of the impartiality of the police, and the justice system.....and the certainty that offenses against the least important of us be prosecuted with the same fervor as against the mightiest....without exception.
Good For You

AOL

#31 Jun 12, 2007
Lou, I'm very happy to see someone FINALLY standing up to the LAZY NCPD. They have to be one of the laziest PD's in America. IF they decide to show up they don't even have the decency to get out of their car. They deserve everything you give to them. I'm backing you 100%
not alyssa

Huntington Station, NY

#32 Jun 12, 2007
put down he needle & pipe, lass.....
razzles

Huntington Station, NY

#33 Jun 12, 2007
my son was never convicted of any possession of a firearm, an if he was would be protected by the defense of infancy and not a crime.
Blue Five

Taiwan

#34 Jun 12, 2007
Lou, the guy posting from East Meadow is most likely a retired NYPD sergeant who has a history of using his Internet connection to blindly defend corrupt and unprofessional police conduct.

Notice how he repeatedly attempts to cloud or obscure the issues you raised by referring to matters that are not directly related to the issue you are posting here.

The East Meadow poster is your typical mealy-mouthed cop who will talk all sorts of trash instead of maturely discussing the topic of this thread.

To me, by ignoring the topic you posted, this East Meadow poster/troll is bolstering your allegations in that he has no other means to defend his precious unprofessional police brothers and sisters.

The Nassau DA needs to start shaking up the cops who serve her office and the people of Nassau County. For too long the Nassau PD has been getting away with acting as prosecutor and judge in many of the cases they investigate. The NYPD would NEVER tolerate half the crap that the NCPD let's it's officers get away with.

IMHO, the issue of corrupt police officers who do not perform their duties in a manner consistent with the law and their training is just as much a public safety issue in Nassau County as DWI.

Police corruption comes in all forms. It does not necessarily have to involve bribery, shakedowns or perjury.

An on-duty police officer who routinely accepts free or discounted meals is a corrupt cop. So is a detective who charges a colleague's family member with a simple assault, when in fact there was a serious assault committed by the colleagues family member.

Thank you for exposing the corrupt NCPD officers who engaged in favoritism in the case you are reporting to us.

http://forum.news12.com//ubbthreads/showprofi...
east meadow

Huntington Station, NY

#35 Jun 12, 2007
nope. Don't even know the guy. However, about that gun.....
TGC

Queens Village, NY

#36 Jun 12, 2007
I don't have enough information to judge the whole story, but the DA's office has frequently told the police not to charge felony assault unless a weapon was used. This has been going on for years because of the rulings by judges that many injuries that most of us consider serious do not qualify in the judges mind. The guidelines, which used to be fairly clear cut, are now quite fuzzy.

If I understood the story correctly the original incident took place in Hempstead, the case was then investigated by the Third Squad NCPD, a normal procedure. It is possible that some of the problem was in the communication between the two depts.

“Do The Right Thing”

Since: Jun 07

3rd Planet from Ra

#37 Jun 12, 2007
[QUOTE who="Mr. East Meadow poster"]nope. Don't even know the guy. However, about that gun.....[/QUOTE]

Okay, what about the gun that charles nelson writes about in post #1 to this thread?

Can someone confirm with facts that there was a prior incident involving Lou's son bringing a loaded firearm into a public school?

If Mr. Nelson's allegation is true, is there any evidence that Lou's son was afforded special treatment by the investigating officers because Lou was a NYPD detective?

If there is evidence that the investigating officers treated Lou's son differently due to Lou's position in the NYS police family, wouldn't that bolster Lou's current allegations that the violently sick man who assaulted his son was afforded special treatment due to his connection to the NYS police family?

[QUOTE who="Mr. East Meadow poster"]Yeah, it's a sniff for cash, or why else would it be in the paper? When does the notice of claim get filed?[/QUOTE]

From what I've read, Lou has not mentioned anything about lawsuits. Nor does his story tend to make the reader believe Lou is interested in suing anyone.

Obviouly you have fallen flat on your face in your attempts to discredit Lou.

Let me ask you Mr. East Meadow poster, if a citizen's civil rights have been violated, or a citizen is the innocent victim of government misconduct, do you believe the victim should NOT go to court and seek justice in the form of monetary compensation?

“Do The Right Thing”

Since: Jun 07

3rd Planet from Ra

#38 Jun 12, 2007
TGC wrote:
If I understood the story correctly the original incident took place in Hempstead, the case was then investigated by the Third Squad NCPD, a normal procedure. It is possible that some of the problem was in the communication between the two depts.
Ya know, I would 100% agree with you if it were not for the fact that:

"When Spagnuolo turned himself in three days later, he was charged with misdemeanor assault. Balestrieri says a Third Precinct officer, Sgt. Jimmy Watson, told him Spagnuolo's mother "ran some interference." The retired detective says he heard the same contention from a DA's office investigator who also told him Spagnuolo is related to at least one officer working in the Third Precinct."

I believe most prudent ppl would agree the injuries sustained by Lou's son are the result of a felonious assault and not a simple misdemeanor assault.

Doreen Spagnuolo, a former Queens assistant district attorney, is the person responsible for mothering and nurturing the violently sick man who plead guilty to attacking Lou's son.

If the shoe were on the other foot and Lou's son was charged with attacking her son and putting him in the hospital, former ADA Spagnuolo would have been up the investigating detective's butt making sure a felony arrest was made.

Based on the known facts I believe Lou's assertions that certain NCPD officers conspired to aid a member of their extended police family.
No Surprise

Apex, NC

#39 Jun 13, 2007
I'd say about 80% of PO's are dirty or hide shit their co-workers do.
Guilty

Poughquag, NY

#41 Jun 13, 2007
Have you filed claims against the charged in Civil Court?
NICK

Short Hills, NJ

#42 Jun 13, 2007
i would just like to state that this wasnt a jumping it was a one on one fight.which the victim wanted to fight sean .if you realize how the victim said its behind him because he knows he had a role in it.so to the father i understand its your son and your trying to protect him but you are taking this a lil to far .ask your son honestly for the true FULL story and you might just be suprised to hear that it was a one on one fight and he lost..

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