New York Primary Election Sept 14: Will you vote?

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All I can say is WAAAAAAA

Corinth, NY

#17880 Feb 12, 2013
nac --

"So you're happy that Obama isn't any worse than the worst president before him? He should be celebrated for being as bad, but no worse than Bush?"

Who said that ? I didn't say that, that's YOUR opinion ! Obama is far, FAR better than Bush, his dad, or even "Mad Dog" Clinton ever was !

"Bush gave us high unemployment"

Absolutely correct..but don't stop there....

Bush ALSO gave us...not just one, but TWO 'recessions' during his time at the wheel....one so bad, it approached the Great Depression in severity.

"Obama gave us status quo"

I think not, Jethro.....the unemployment rate stood at 10.1% at the start of Obama's presidentcy, and stands at 7.9% now...that is a 2.2% improvement..which translates to MILLIONS of people back to work....IN JUST 4 YEARS !

"Bush gave us unsustainable debt... Obama increased it"

Let's punch a hole in that fallacy too, shall we ?

Since GWB's bailout of the wealthy back in 2008, obama has REDUCED the nation's deficit rate in EACH of his 4 years in office....from 1509 BILLION in his first year (Oh yeah...that was GWB's last budget) to a current 884 BILLION (inflation adjusted dollars). And that's WITH Obama dragging us out a "Great Recession" deeper than any other since the Great Depression of the 1930's.

"Bush gave us the unconstitutional Patriot Act... Obama expanded it & gave us the NDAA that ended due process"

Let's pop a hole in that one too, shall we ?

Let's not forget where these "Act"s and laws originate, shall we ? The "patriot act" AND the "National Defense Authorization Act" (NDAA) BOTH originated in a Republican-controlled Congress. That being said, the Democrat-controlled Senate STRIPPED the 'indefinate detention" provisions from the bill....but the REPUBLICAN-controlled House restored those provisions. Yes, Obama signed it into law....who knows what horse-trading took place behind closed doors...but yes, he signed it. But remember....these 'provisons' were all rolled up into a defense authorization budgets...imagine the uproar if Obama veto'ed it and military personell didn't get paid !

So stop the blaming of Obama in this scenario, and place the with blame where it belongs...with the Repukes !

Any OTHER fallacies you need me to poke holes in, Goober ?
McDingleberry

Selden, NY

#17881 Feb 12, 2013
nac wrote:
<quoted text>
So you're happy that Obama isn't any worse than the worst president before him? He should be celebrated for being as bad, but no worse than Bush? Congratulations... you're cheering your party's version of Bush.
Bush gave us high unemployment... Obama gave us status quo. Bush gave us unsustainable debt... Obama increased it. Bush gave us the unconstitutional Patriot Act... Obama expanded it & gave us the NDAA that ended due process (even tyrant Bush couldn't do that)...
When you wake up... you'll realize that Obama is Bush times two.
You probably wont understand this, but I'm not a Republican or Democrat... I'm an American. I want what's good for the country... not a corrupt political party.
Bush was a disaster, Obama is somehow even worse.
Wake up, you're cheer leading the fall of the republic.
If you could only lick your own balls you'd be set.

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#17882 Feb 12, 2013
McDingleberry wrote:
<quoted text>
If you could only lick your own balls you'd be set.
Obviously, you and obama are set, by your definition.

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#17883 Feb 12, 2013
All I can say is WAAAAAAA wrote:
nac --
"So you're happy that Obama isn't any worse than the worst president before him? He should be celebrated for being as bad, but no worse than Bush?"
Who said that ? I didn't say that, that's YOUR opinion ! Obama is far, FAR better than Bush, his dad, or even "Mad Dog" Clinton ever was !
"Bush gave us high unemployment"
Absolutely correct..but don't stop there....
Bush ALSO gave us...not just one, but TWO 'recessions' during his time at the wheel....one so bad, it approached the Great Depression in severity.
"Obama gave us status quo"
I think not, Jethro.....the unemployment rate stood at 10.1% at the start of Obama's presidentcy, and stands at 7.9% now...that is a 2.2% improvement..which translates to MILLIONS of people back to work....IN JUST 4 YEARS !
"Bush gave us unsustainable debt... Obama increased it"
Let's punch a hole in that fallacy too, shall we ?
Since GWB's bailout of the wealthy back in 2008, obama has REDUCED the nation's deficit rate in EACH of his 4 years in office....from 1509 BILLION in his first year (Oh yeah...that was GWB's last budget) to a current 884 BILLION (inflation adjusted dollars). And that's WITH Obama dragging us out a "Great Recession" deeper than any other since the Great Depression of the 1930's.
"Bush gave us the unconstitutional Patriot Act... Obama expanded it & gave us the NDAA that ended due process"
Let's pop a hole in that one too, shall we ?
Let's not forget where these "Act"s and laws originate, shall we ? The "patriot act" AND the "National Defense Authorization Act" (NDAA) BOTH originated in a Republican-controlled Congress. That being said, the Democrat-controlled Senate STRIPPED the 'indefinate detention" provisions from the bill....but the REPUBLICAN-controlled House restored those provisions. Yes, Obama signed it into law....who knows what horse-trading took place behind closed doors...but yes, he signed it. But remember....these 'provisons' were all rolled up into a defense authorization budgets...imagine the uproar if Obama veto'ed it and military personell didn't get paid !
So stop the blaming of Obama in this scenario, and place the with blame where it belongs...with the Repukes !
Any OTHER fallacies you need me to poke holes in, Goober ?
I am not sure whether you are a pathological prevaricator like your idol, obama, or an abject moron like pelosi, however it doesn't matter the fallacious result is the same, canine excrement has more substance to it. You have an opinion only, you also have a rectum, in your case they both serve the same purpose.
McDingleberry

Selden, NY

#17884 Feb 12, 2013
SirLiesAlot wrote:
<quoted text>
Obviously, you and obama are set, by your definition.
Obviously, you suck the big one.

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#17885 Feb 12, 2013
McDingleberry wrote:
<quoted text>
Obviously, you suck the big one.
Hmmm, you sound like you are about twelve, but that is the average mental age of obama worshippers.

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#17886 Feb 12, 2013
From the Los Angeles Times Newspaper

1. 40% of all workers in Los Angeles County (Los Angeles County has 10.2
million people) are working for cash and not paying taxes. This is because
they are predominantly illegal aliens working without a green card.

2. 95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens.

3. 75% of people on the most-wanted list in Los Angeles are illegal aliens.

4. Over 2/3 of all births in Los Angeles County are to illegal alien
Mexicans on Medi-Cal, whose births were paid for by taxpayers.

5. Nearly 35% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican
nationals here illegally .

6. Over 300,000 illegal aliens in Los Angeles County are living in garages.

7. The FBI reports half of all gang members in Los Angeles are most likely
illegal aliens from south of the border.

8. Nearly 60% of all occupants of HUD properties are illegal .

9. 21 radio stations in Los Angeles are Spanish speaking.

10. In Los Angeles County 5.1 million people speak English, 3.9 million
speak Spanish.
(There are 10.2 million people in Los Angeles County .)

(All 10 of the above statements are from the Los Angeles Times)

Less than 2% of illegal aliens are picking our crops, but 29% are on welfare
.
Over 70% of the United States' annual population growth (and over 90% of
California, Florida, and New York ) results from illegal immigration.
29% of inmates in federal prisons are illegal aliens .

We are a bunch of fools for letting this continue!

Just remember, obama says we don't have a spending problem, and pelosi says we have a budget problem, you've exercised your right to vote, brilliantly!
All I can say is WAAAAAAA

Corinth, NY

#17887 Feb 12, 2013
SirLiesAlot wrote:
<quoted text>
I am not sure whether you are a pathological prevaricator like your idol, obama, or an abject moron like pelosi, however it doesn't matter the fallacious result is the same, canine excrement has more substance to it. You have an opinion only, you also have a rectum, in your case they both serve the same purpose.
Don't like being proven wrong, doya Jethro ?

Don't like having your snout rubbed in FACTS, doya ???

Awwwwwwwwwww.....

My username says it all, bozo !

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#17888 Feb 12, 2013
All I can say is WAAAAAAA wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't like being proven wrong, doya Jethro ?
Don't like having your snout rubbed in FACTS, doya ???
Awwwwwwwwwww.....
My username says it all, bozo !
SirLiesAlots' picture says it all. You have no facts, you have propaganda. Facts are that the unemployment rate is 14% among Blacks, Sixteen trillion dollars in debt, and an economy that is shrinking in the last fiscal quarter. But those facts don't count for morons, do they? You have a incompetent clueless president that foists wedge issues on a somnambulant voter, that have nothing to do with a disintegrating economy. And why? Because his record on the countrys' economy smells like your old socks. Keep blathering away, idiot boy, fetch obama some water.
All I can say is WAAAAAAA

Corinth, NY

#17889 Feb 12, 2013
SirLiesAlot wrote:
<quoted text>
SirLiesAlots' picture says it all. You have no facts, you have propaganda. Facts are that the unemployment rate is 14% among Blacks, Sixteen trillion dollars in debt, and an economy that is shrinking in the last fiscal quarter. But those facts don't count for morons, do they? You have a incompetent clueless president that foists wedge issues on a somnambulant voter, that have nothing to do with a disintegrating economy. And why? Because his record on the countrys' economy smells like your old socks. Keep blathering away, idiot boy, fetch obama some water.
ROFLMSLAO !

Alright, Jethro, let's go for it.

"Facts are that the unemployment rate is 14% among Blacks"

Is that right ?

Fact is, Goober, the unemployment rate for blacks, 16 years of age or older is 13.8% for 2012.

http://www.bls.gov/cps/cpsaat03.htm

For 2009, the year Obama took over a legacy of incompetence...the unemployment rate for blacks, 16 years of age & over was 14.8%:

ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/special. requests/lf/aa2009/aat5.txt

Believe me, if there was much more of an improvement in the black unemployment rate over the 4 years of Obama's first term, the inbred hick voices like yourself would be the very FIRST to cry 'racism' and 'favoritism'!

"an economy that is shrinking in the last fiscal quarter"

So, the economy shrunk ONCE in the 16 quarters of Obama's presidency. So, let's explore, shall we....how many quarters did the economy 'shrink' during Dictator Bush's tenure......

Why...the economy contracted for SEVEN quarters during the 8 dictator Bush years.....and just ONE quarter for Obama's 4 and 1/4
years....does that not make Obama SEVEN times the president that Dictator George "The Incompetent" Bush was ???

http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;_y...

Anything else, Goober ?

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#17890 Feb 12, 2013
Your ignorance speaks for itself
All I can say is WAAAAAAA

Corinth, NY

#17891 Feb 12, 2013
SirLiesAlot wrote:
Your ignorance speaks for itself
Exactly what I expected.

Case closed, point proven.

Game, Set, & match.

Thanks for playing, Jethro !

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#17892 Feb 12, 2013
New income data from the Census Bureau reveal what a great job Barack Obama has done for the middle class as President. During his entire tenure in the oval office, median household income has declined by 7.3%.

In January, 2009, the month he entered office, median household income was $54,983. By June, 2012, it had spiraled down to $50,964. That’s a loss of $4,019 per family, the equivalent of losing a little less than one month’s income a year, every year. And on our current course that is only going to get worse not better.
All I can say is WAAAAAAA

Corinth, NY

#17893 Feb 12, 2013
SirLiesAlot wrote:
New income data from the Census Bureau reveal what a great job Barack Obama has done for the middle class as President. During his entire tenure in the oval office, median household income has declined by 7.3%.
In January, 2009, the month he entered office, median household income was $54,983. By June, 2012, it had spiraled down to $50,964. That’s a loss of $4,019 per family, the equivalent of losing a little less than one month’s income a year, every year. And on our current course that is only going to get worse not better.
LINKS, bubba !

It's easy to throw make-believe 'facts' out there, how about some supporting documentation ?

Yano, kinda like I did ?

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#17894 Feb 12, 2013
Data from the census, written in Forbes

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#17895 Feb 12, 2013
If you start from when the recession ended in June, 2009, the decline since then has been greater than it was during the recession. Three years into the Obama recovery, median family income had declined nearly 5% by June, 2012 as compared to June, 2009. That is nearly twice the decline of 2.6% that occurred during the recession from December, 2007 until June, 2009. As the Wall Street Journal summarized in its August 25-26 weekend edition,“For household income, in other words, the Obama recovery has been worse than the Bush recession.”

They could be lying, but not obama, keep drinking the koolaid.
All I can say is WAAAAAAA

Corinth, NY

#17896 Feb 12, 2013
SirLiesAlot wrote:
Data from the census, written in Forbes
And ?

LINKS, bubba !

Pretend I am not a mind reader.

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#17897 Feb 12, 2013
The numbers:

Median household income when Barack Obama entered office (January 2009):$54,983

Median household income in June 2012:$50,964

Percent by which median household income fell in the two years after the end of the recession in June 2009: 4.1

Disposable income per capita in 2008:$33,229

Disposable income per capita in the first quarter of 2012, at an annualized rate:$32,677

Total non-farm payrolls in January 2009: 133.561 million

Total non-farm payrolls in August 2012: 133.686 million

Net change in number of jobs under Obama:+125,000

Median weeks of unemployment for a jobless worker in January 2009: 10.7

Median weeks of unemployment for a jobless worker in August 2012: 18.0 (down from a peak of 25.0 in June 2010)

People participating in Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (food stamps) in January 2009: 31,983,716

People on food stamps in June 2012: 46,670,373

Poverty rate in 2009: 13.2%(up from 12.5% in 2008)

Poverty rate in 2011: 15.1%

Corporate profits in 2008, the final year of George W. Bush's presidency:$1.2 trillion

Corporate profits in 2009, 2010, and 2011, respectively:$1.4 trillion,$1.8 trillion,$1.9 trillion

Projected 2009 federal deficit when Obama took office:$1.2 trillion (up from $458 billion in 2008)

Actual 2009 deficit:$1.41 trillion

Estimated 2012 deficit:$1.33 trillion

U.S. Consumer Confidence Index in January 2009: 37.4

U.S. Consumer Confidence Index in September 2012: 70.3

Median home sale price in January 2009, and the number of new homes sold that month:$208,600/24,000

Median home sale price in August 2012, and the number of new homes sold that month:$256,900/31,000

Number of homeowners who President Obama claimed would be helped by government-backed mortgage modification: "as many as three to four million"

Number who had applied for aid as of May 2012: 4.3 million

Number who had received government-sponsored modifications: 1 million

Percent of Americans who are "dependent upon government," according to Mitt Romney: 47

Actual percent of Americans who have benefited from government help, including breaks in the tax code: 96

Sources

Median household income: Census Bureau (via Forbes)

Fall in median household income since end of recession: Pew Research Center

Disposable income per capita: Bureau of Economic Analysis (via Politifact)

Non-farm payrolls: Bureau of Labor Statistics (via Huffington Post)

Median weeks unemployed: Bureau of Labor Statistics

Food stamps: Agriculture Department (via Politifact)

Poverty rate: Census Bureau (via Politifact)

Corporate profits: Bureau of Economic Analysis (via Politifact)

Projected 2009 federal deficit: The New York Times

2009 and 2012 deficits: Office of Management and Budget (via Politifact)

Consumer confidence: The Conference Board (via Politifact and The Sacramento Bee)

Median home sale price: Census Bureau (via Politifact)

Number of new homes sold: Census Bureau (via Politifact)

Mortgage modification: Treasury Department (via The New York Times)

Percent of Americans who have benefited from government help: Suzanne Mettler of Cornell and John Sides of George Washington University (via Bloomberg)


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#17898 Feb 12, 2013
It is easier to educate yourself, it's harder to remain stupid.

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#17899 Feb 12, 2013
All I can say is WAAAAAAA wrote:
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And ?
LINKS, bubba !
Pretend I am not a mind reader.
It's easier to pretend you're not a moron.

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