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Teddy R

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The Center for Automotive Research has estimated that more than a million jobs were saved by the U.S. auto industry bailout.
General Motors earned $7.6 billion on $150.3 billion in sales in 2011, just two years after taxpayers bailed it out. Moreover, its once-weak compatriots in the U.S. auto sector—Ford Motor (F) and Chrysler Group—reported profits for the year, as well. That’s the first time the Big Three, as old-timers fondly call them, have all been profitable since 2004.
Maybe you're thinking of another auto-industy.
Link the study, so we can read it and see what assumptions they've made, how they calculate these mythical jobs that were "saved" (and wouldn't have still been "saved" if GM had gove thru structured bankruptcy without Taxpayers' money) & we'll be able to see where they're FOS.
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http://twitchy.com/2012/10/28/bret-baier-conf...
Obama had his chance, and he failed miserably

It’s been four years. He had his chance. It’s time to end this.
President Obama may well be the most unqualified, unaccomplished, unprepared, unsuited man ever to be elected president. He was elected on a wave of fantasy, propelled by a creepy cult of personality and the almost complete abdication by the news media of their investigative responsibility. He was never going to be up to the job.Obama's administration has been responsible for a 862 billion dollar (1.3 trillion with interest)huge stimulus that accomplished little but added massively to our debt, a health care bill that most people didn’t want and was built on lies, and a financial regulation bill that ignored government’s role in the financial collapse and was written by some of legislators most responsible for it.

Obama's energy policy has been to thwart domestic production in favor of crony green energy
schemes that keep failing.

His foreign policy has been to snub our allies and reach out to our enemies, who have responded to the outreach with disdain. The successes he’s had in the war on terror have been possible by following the policies created by President George W. Bush – ones that he criticized as a senator.

In David Limbaugh's book "The Great Destroyer" it's been claimed that Michele Obama filed divorce papers against Barack Hussein Obama when he lost an eection to Bobby Rush in Illinois.

Obama’s campaign has been reduced to silly trivialities such as Big Bird and binders. He’s
spent. He’s done. He doesn’t even propose a real agenda for another term. It’s time to end this on Nov. 6. Obama will lose thsi Nov.6th because the American people cannot stand Obama any longer and Obama would bankrupt and destroy this country if Obama gets 4 more years.
Obama: Longest period of unemployment over 8% since the Great Depression
Obama: Added more to the national debt than ANY president in history and did it in less than 4
years. 5.5 trillion dollars added debt by Obama is 4 years.
Obama: Most number of people in poverty in the history of the United States
Obama: Has signed more executive orders than any president in U.S. history in his 1st term
Obama doesn't follow US law on DOMA or on Illegal Aliens.
He has signed 200 plus more than 2nd place.
Obama: Gas prices doubled
Obama: Cost of living sky-rocketed
Obama: U.S. debt was downgraded from AAA status for the first time ever
Obama: Federal spending as a percentage of GDP (25 percent) is the highest that it has been
since World War II.
Obama: Most people on food stamps in U.S. history
Obama: Real median household income has decreased by more than 4000 dollars since
Barack Obama entered the White House.
Obama: The number of long-term unemployed Americans has risen from 2.7 million to 5.2 million
since Obama took office.
Obama: United States has lost more than 300,000 education jobs.
Obama: Velocity of money (a very important indicator of economic health) has plunged to a
post-World War II low.
Lowest amount of navy ships since 1916.

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Teddy R wrote:
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Wrong.
GM's creditors had rights under our bankruptcy laws - that's why we have bankruptcy laws.
Obama subverted the bankruptcy statutes with Taxpayers' money, jumping his political croneys - UAW Bosses - ahead of other creditors with superior rights.
OH I thought that EVERY CO. that is listed on the stock market and had a co. run Retirement system had to have at lease ten years of benefits on hand?
Isn't that what you said?
Well seeing that almost every auto CO owed the U.A.W. retirement fund money because they were underfunded by a long shot.
The UAW and the auto co.s agreed that the UAW take some of what was owed to them in stock and the div. from this stock would help pay for the retirement fund.
That is why they were put ahead of the stock holders,
I thought you knew all about accounting.
Creditors get paid first then the stock holders and the UAW was a creditor by contract.
Have a nice day
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What Obama does not care about is American lives. Obama sat and watched while Americans were MURDERED.
DenancyeSteak

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Teddy R wrote:
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Thank you for demonstrating your breath-taking financial ignorance.
That $345K, if not pissed away down the Washington DC rat-hole and instead invested at an average annual rate of return of 7%- very conservatively obtainable over a 40-year working life - is worth $1.6 MILLION on retirement at 67 years of age.
That amount buys a 13-year annuity generating $15,000 EVERY MONTH in payout over those 13 years of expected life in retirement.
THAT's what it REALLY costs people to pay in - and they get far less for their money back from a US federal government that runs out of a coffee-can from year to year.
So due to your financial ignorance, you are excused from further commentary on the subject - as you are clearly unqualified.
WHAT? So, you think that it would've made more sense to stick the money in a bank than to save thousands of American jobs?

Hey, Einstein...how much money do think the government would have lost had those jobs not been saved? How many millions would have been paid out in unemployment benefits?

Four years after the auto bailout, there are 1.45 million people who are working as a direct result of the $80 billion bailout, according to the nonpartisan Center for Automotive Research, both at the carmakers and associated businesses downstream in the economy. How many tax dollars and purchases do you think that these people pump into the economy every year... I guarantee that its thousands of times what your sad little 7% investment would have been.

Teabaggers should have their own vision plan, since they're all shortsighted.
Teddy R

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DenancyeSteak wrote:
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Both GM and Chrysler have paid back the bailout money in full and with interest.
You were saying?
Bullsh!t.

Obama's Treasury Dept is still sitting on 500 million shares of GM stock purchased with Taxpayers' money at $53/sh

GM's trading today at $23.28/sh

That means taxpayers are our $15 billion in losses on GM stock; if Treasury were to dump its holding, it would collapse the GM share price, and boost taxpayer losses on the GM bailout, even further.

You were saying?
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When Idiot Barack Obama urged Americans under siege from Hurricane Sandy to stay inside and keep watch on ready.gov for the latest, he left out something pretty important — where to turn if the electricity goes out. Too bad the Americans in Libya did not have the internet to go to, maybe Obama was waiting for an email and he would have sent help.
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WASHINGTON – Using a Pakistani Internet Protocol and proxy server, a disposable credit card and a fake address, “Osama bin Laden” has successfully donated twice to Barack Obama’s presidential re-election campaign
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Another WASTE of taxpayer money by Obama.

Quarter-billion-dollar stimulus grant creates just 400 jobs
Bankrupt energy business joins list of federally-backed flops
DenancyeSteak

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Obama is losing wrote:
http://www.reagancoalition.com /articles/2012/20121030003-sul livan-confederacy.html
http://specialoperationsspeaks.com/articles/i... -
father-of-navy-seal-who-died-i n-benghazi-raid-launches-blist ering-attack-on-obama
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/27/ob... -
libya-were-denied-requests-for /?test=latestnews
http://www.reagancoalition.com/articles/2012/...
http://www.reagancoalition.com/articles/2012/...
http://www.reagancoalition.com/articles/2012/...
http://times247.com/articles/obama-site-illeg...
http://www.reagancoalition.com/articles/2012/...
www.reagancoalition.com/articles/2012/2012102...
http://twitchy.com/2012/10/28/bret-baier-conf...
Obama had his chance, and he failed miserably
It’s been four years. He had his chance. It’s time to end this.
President Obama may well be the most unqualified, unaccomplished, unprepared, unsuited man ever to be elected president. He was elected on a wave of fantasy, propelled by a creepy cult of personality and the almost complete abdication by the news media of their investigative responsibility. He was never going to be up to the job.Obama's administration has been responsible for a 862 billion dollar (1.3 trillion with interest)huge stimulus that accomplished little but added massively to our debt, a health care bill that most people didn’t want and was built on lies, and a financial regulation bill that ignored government’s role in the financial collapse and was written by some of legislators most responsible for it.
Obama's energy policy has been to thwart domestic production in
That's quite a post...does it come with directions?
Teddy R

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DenancyeSteak wrote:
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Of course they own shares, that's how the money was transferred to GM!!! Did you think that they just handed the corporation a big check:...LMAO...For an uber-capitalist, you don't know much about business or corporations, do you?
You see, GM wants to buy those shares back, but the Treasury Dept. isn't interesting in selling because at the current price the government would lose money...it's too early.
That's why its an INVESTMENT.
Ridiculous - but have it your way - as an "investment," <snicker>, it's generated $20 billion in LOSSES - and in the real world, architects of "investments" like that GET FIRED.

Which is exactly what we're going to do with the architect of this "investment next week.

Thanks for supplying the pitchforks and torches - they'll be put to good use, beleive me.
DenancyeSteak

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WASHINGTON – Using a Pakistani Internet Protocol and proxy server, a disposable credit card and a fake address,“Osama bin Laden” has successfully donated twice to Barack Obama’s presidential re-election campaign
And Obama killed him.
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The news from Gallup yesterday that shows Romney leading Obama in the early vote by a full seven points, 52-45%. Almost exactly four years ago (October 28, 2008), according to Gallup, Obama was massacring John McCain among early voters with a fifteen-point lead, 55-40%. That means, at least according to Gallup, that Obama's early vote advantage has dropped 22 points when compared to '08.

Obama the President that will watch Americans being murdered and do nothing.

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Teddy R wrote:
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Thank you for demonstrating your breath-taking financial ignorance.
That $345K, if not pissed away down the Washington DC rat-hole and instead invested at an average annual rate of return of 7%- very conservatively obtainable over a 40-year working life - is worth $1.6 MILLION on retirement at 67 years of age.
That amount buys a 13-year annuity generating $15,000 EVERY MONTH in payout over those 13 years of expected life in retirement.
THAT's what it REALLY costs people to pay in - and they get far less for their money back from a US federal government that runs out of a coffee-can from year to year.
So due to your financial ignorance, you are excused from further commentary on the subject - as you are clearly unqualified.
AND that is why they have to take the SS system back off budget and pay it back every cent the gov. has taken from it.
Every Pres. has used the excess from the SS system to bal. the budget since LBJ.
So every cent that was collected and wasn't paid out in ben. was used to bal. the budget and was to be backed up with int. from Tres. bonds.
They did this to help pay for Viet. war, the same as FDR used it for WWII [ but they paid that back and haven't even thought about paying back every cent from LBJ on]
The SS system should have TRILLIONS of dollars in it and should be getting paid int. on that money.
It should never have been used to bal. the budget.
Have a nice afternoon
DenancyeSteak

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Help us wrote:
When Idiot Barack Obama urged Americans under siege from Hurricane Sandy to stay inside and keep watch on ready.gov for the latest, he left out something pretty important — where to turn if the electricity goes out. Too bad the Americans in Libya did not have the internet to go to, maybe Obama was waiting for an email and he would have sent help.
Well, I think that he was talking to non-stupid Americans, who understand that televisions work on electricity.
Romney Ryan 2012

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Yes, the directions are clear: Vote Romney Ryan 2012 and send failure Obama back to Chicago.
DenancyeSteak wrote:
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That's quite a post...does it come with directions?
DenancyeSteak

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Help us wrote:
The news from Gallup yesterday that shows Romney leading Obama in the early vote by a full seven points, 52-45%. Almost exactly four years ago (October 28, 2008), according to Gallup, Obama was massacring John McCain among early voters with a fifteen-point lead, 55-40%. That means, at least according to Gallup, that Obama's early vote advantage has dropped 22 points when compared to '08.
Obama the President that will watch Americans being murdered and do nothing.
Early results are like buying a girl at the bar a beer...you don't know if it worked until the end.
Tbird stfu

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I heard that Life coach was going to egg and TP your house. Watch out old man.

You never know. Life coach knows where you live.
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Romney Ryan 2012 wrote:
Yes, the directions are clear: Vote Romney Ryan 2012 and send failure Obama back to Chicago.
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Why didn't you just say that to begin with?
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Teddy R wrote:
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Ridiculous - but have it your way - as an "investment," <snicker>, it's generated $20 billion in LOSSES - and in the real world, architects of "investments" like that GET FIRED.
Which is exactly what we're going to do with the architect of this "investment next week.
Thanks for supplying the pitchforks and torches - they'll be put to good use, beleive me.
The investment has netted over a million jobs, and a HUGE number of tax dollars.

If you can't see that, you're a republican.

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