New York Primary Election Sept 14: Will you vote?

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Teddy R

Houston, TX

#14287 Oct 30, 2012
DenancyeSteak wrote:
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Of course they own shares, that's how the money was transferred to GM!!! Did you think that they just handed the corporation a big check:...LMAO...For an uber-capitalist, you don't know much about business or corporations, do you?
You see, GM wants to buy those shares back, but the Treasury Dept. isn't interesting in selling because at the current price the government would lose money...it's too early.
That's why its an INVESTMENT.
Ridiculous - but have it your way - as an "investment," <snicker>, it's generated $20 billion in LOSSES - and in the real world, architects of "investments" like that GET FIRED.

Which is exactly what we're going to do with the architect of this "investment next week.

Thanks for supplying the pitchforks and torches - they'll be put to good use, beleive me.
DenancyeSteak

Schenectady, NY

#14288 Oct 30, 2012
Help us wrote:
WASHINGTON – Using a Pakistani Internet Protocol and proxy server, a disposable credit card and a fake address,“Osama bin Laden” has successfully donated twice to Barack Obama’s presidential re-election campaign
And Obama killed him.
Help us

Cicero, NY

#14289 Oct 30, 2012
The news from Gallup yesterday that shows Romney leading Obama in the early vote by a full seven points, 52-45%. Almost exactly four years ago (October 28, 2008), according to Gallup, Obama was massacring John McCain among early voters with a fifteen-point lead, 55-40%. That means, at least according to Gallup, that Obama's early vote advantage has dropped 22 points when compared to '08.

Obama the President that will watch Americans being murdered and do nothing.

Since: Feb 10

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#14290 Oct 30, 2012
Teddy R wrote:
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Thank you for demonstrating your breath-taking financial ignorance.
That $345K, if not pissed away down the Washington DC rat-hole and instead invested at an average annual rate of return of 7%- very conservatively obtainable over a 40-year working life - is worth $1.6 MILLION on retirement at 67 years of age.
That amount buys a 13-year annuity generating $15,000 EVERY MONTH in payout over those 13 years of expected life in retirement.
THAT's what it REALLY costs people to pay in - and they get far less for their money back from a US federal government that runs out of a coffee-can from year to year.
So due to your financial ignorance, you are excused from further commentary on the subject - as you are clearly unqualified.
AND that is why they have to take the SS system back off budget and pay it back every cent the gov. has taken from it.
Every Pres. has used the excess from the SS system to bal. the budget since LBJ.
So every cent that was collected and wasn't paid out in ben. was used to bal. the budget and was to be backed up with int. from Tres. bonds.
They did this to help pay for Viet. war, the same as FDR used it for WWII [ but they paid that back and haven't even thought about paying back every cent from LBJ on]
The SS system should have TRILLIONS of dollars in it and should be getting paid int. on that money.
It should never have been used to bal. the budget.
Have a nice afternoon
DenancyeSteak

Schenectady, NY

#14291 Oct 30, 2012
Help us wrote:
When Idiot Barack Obama urged Americans under siege from Hurricane Sandy to stay inside and keep watch on ready.gov for the latest, he left out something pretty important — where to turn if the electricity goes out. Too bad the Americans in Libya did not have the internet to go to, maybe Obama was waiting for an email and he would have sent help.
Well, I think that he was talking to non-stupid Americans, who understand that televisions work on electricity.
Romney Ryan 2012

Cicero, NY

#14292 Oct 30, 2012
Yes, the directions are clear: Vote Romney Ryan 2012 and send failure Obama back to Chicago.
DenancyeSteak wrote:
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That's quite a post...does it come with directions?
DenancyeSteak

Schenectady, NY

#14293 Oct 30, 2012
Help us wrote:
The news from Gallup yesterday that shows Romney leading Obama in the early vote by a full seven points, 52-45%. Almost exactly four years ago (October 28, 2008), according to Gallup, Obama was massacring John McCain among early voters with a fifteen-point lead, 55-40%. That means, at least according to Gallup, that Obama's early vote advantage has dropped 22 points when compared to '08.
Obama the President that will watch Americans being murdered and do nothing.
Early results are like buying a girl at the bar a beer...you don't know if it worked until the end.
Tbird stfu

Buffalo, NY

#14294 Oct 30, 2012
I heard that Life coach was going to egg and TP your house. Watch out old man.

You never know. Life coach knows where you live.
DenancyeSteak

Schenectady, NY

#14295 Oct 30, 2012
Romney Ryan 2012 wrote:
Yes, the directions are clear: Vote Romney Ryan 2012 and send failure Obama back to Chicago.
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Why didn't you just say that to begin with?
DenancyeSteak

Schenectady, NY

#14296 Oct 30, 2012
Teddy R wrote:
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Ridiculous - but have it your way - as an "investment," <snicker>, it's generated $20 billion in LOSSES - and in the real world, architects of "investments" like that GET FIRED.
Which is exactly what we're going to do with the architect of this "investment next week.
Thanks for supplying the pitchforks and torches - they'll be put to good use, beleive me.
The investment has netted over a million jobs, and a HUGE number of tax dollars.

If you can't see that, you're a republican.
Pol Pot Obama

Warren, AR

#14297 Oct 30, 2012
Teddy R wrote:
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Wrong.
GM's creditors had rights under our bankruptcy laws - that's why we have bankruptcy laws.
Obama subverted the bankruptcy statutes with Taxpayers' money, jumping his political croneys - UAW Bosses - ahead of other creditors with superior rights.
WRONG
Teddy R

Houston, TX

#14298 Oct 30, 2012
tbird19482 wrote:
<quoted text>OH I thought that EVERY CO. that is listed on the stock market and had a co. run Retirement system had to have at lease ten years of benefits on hand?
Isn't that what you said?
Well seeing that almost every auto CO owed the U.A.W. retirement fund money because they were underfunded by a long shot.
The UAW and the auto co.s agreed that the UAW take some of what was owed to them in stock and the div. from this stock would help pay for the retirement fund.
That is why they were put ahead of the stock holders,
I thought you knew all about accounting.
Creditors get paid first then the stock holders and the UAW was a creditor by contract.
Have a nice day
Exactly what I said - the deal made with the UAW you describe screwed other creditors who stood AHEAD of the UAW.

The Obama bailout of GM was designed to subvert the normal operation of US bankruptcy laws, to jump his political friends and conies ahead of other GM creditors in feasting on taxpayer bailout money.

This is stone FACT - only a partisan hack thinking he had an audience of credulous fools would even try to spin it any other way.
Romney Ryan 2012

Cicero, NY

#14299 Oct 30, 2012
Did he? Obama was in the situation room when Osama was killed. The only people Obama killed were the 4 Americans he watched murdered in Libya.
DenancyeSteak wrote:
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And Obama killed him.
Teddy R

Houston, TX

#14300 Oct 30, 2012
DenancyeSteak wrote:
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WHAT? So, you think that it would've made more sense to stick the money in a bank than to save thousands of American jobs?
Hey, Einstein...how much money do think the government would have lost had those jobs not been saved? How many millions would have been paid out in unemployment benefits?
Four years after the auto bailout, there are 1.45 million people who are working as a direct result of the $80 billion bailout, according to the nonpartisan Center for Automotive Research, both at the carmakers and associated businesses downstream in the economy. How many tax dollars and purchases do you think that these people pump into the economy every year... I guarantee that its thousands of times what your sad little 7% investment would have been.
Teabaggers should have their own vision plan, since they're all shortsighted.
The apocalyptic scenario of GM and all its suppliers suddenly vanishing overnight upon which all this propaganda rests is a total FAIRY TALE.

Under a structured bankruptcy, GM would have kept right on operating, as would all its suppliers, while the copany was re-organized, unproductive assets shed, and non-competitive & wholly unsustainable legacy UAW labor contracts cancelled and re-negotiated.

This is exactly what Ford did - with no taxpayer bailout money required.

This whole myth of massive job losses is a myth - a scary ghost story concocted to give political cover to Obama's Crony Democracy and rip-off of the American Taxpayer.

US Citizen

Gouverneur, NY

#14301 Oct 30, 2012
To Obama is losing....You have great facts listed in your previous comment. Keep those facts going. The liberals on this thread need to read it over a few times to let it sink in. I think they are afraid of losing their entitlements.

I copied and pasted your comments in microsoft word, so I will have it for future reference. Your efforts were not in vain.
Thank you for speaking the TRUTH!
Pol Pot Obama

Warren, AR

#14302 Oct 30, 2012
I'm not going to debate every single thing Obama has done or hasn't done.

1.The bottom line...over the last 4 years Obama has created an "atmosphere of uncertainty"...that's why no one is creating jobs, that's why the GNP is so low, that's why foreign leaders laugh at him and never take him seriously.

2.GNP less then 2% a year. Their's your proof the stimulus package was a complete failure.The GNP tells the entire story.
Teddy R

Houston, TX

#14303 Oct 30, 2012
DenancyeSteak wrote:
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WHAT? So, you think that it would've made more sense to stick the money in a bank than to save thousands of American jobs?
Hey, Einstein...how much money do think the government would have lost had those jobs not been saved? How many millions would have been paid out in unemployment benefits?
Four years after the auto bailout, there are 1.45 million people who are working as a direct result of the $80 billion bailout, according to the nonpartisan Center for Automotive Research, both at the carmakers and associated businesses downstream in the economy. How many tax dollars and purchases do you think that these people pump into the economy every year... I guarantee that its thousands of times what your sad little 7% investment would have been.
Teabaggers should have their own vision plan, since they're all shortsighted.
You can't even keep straight whether you're blathering about Medicare or the GM bailout.
Pol Pot Obama

Warren, AR

#14304 Oct 30, 2012
Teddy R wrote:
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Bullsh!t.
Obama's Treasury Dept is still sitting on 500 million shares of GM stock purchased with Taxpayers' money at $53/sh
GM's trading today at $23.28/sh
That means taxpayers are our $15 billion in losses on GM stock; if Treasury were to dump its holding, it would collapse the GM share price, and boost taxpayer losses on the GM bailout, even further.
You were saying?
Teddy is absolutely right. people that held shares of GM stock got screwed.
Teddy R

Houston, TX

#14305 Oct 30, 2012
DenancyeSteak wrote:
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And Obama killed him.
No - DEVGRU heroes killed him.

Obama was playing golf.
DenancyeSteak

Schenectady, NY

#14306 Oct 30, 2012
Pol Pot Obama wrote:
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WRONG
Wow!!!! What an argument!

"Wrong"...how forcefully eloquent! I must've taken you hours to develop that little gem.

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