West Islip High School's 9th Grade Ch...
pondering

West Islip, NY

#62 May 28, 2013
WRisanAss wrote:
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Pondering: OK, has the state exam been proven? That has yet to be proven so if you want to go there, you should know what you are talking about. Second of all, the "test" was a 2 day take home, it was asking for trouble.
Let me say for the record I am NOT blaming the community, I am blaming my child 100% but there are a LOT of factors that could have caused this NOT to happen. BUT, I will not go there. My parenting had nothing to do with my child's actions of being in a FB group with friends and sharing information.
If you think for a SECOND think that the parent (and her evil friend) who took the child out the DAY before hand nothing to do with this you are kidding yourself. There are only certain people in our district who do nothing but try to bring down the district even if it's at the cost of bringing the kids down as well. Sickos. Oh and the day after media knows? Please, don't fool yourself!
AND, I AM NOT A PART OF THE BOE, so don't even go there.
You've proven yourself and your character by saying that the two-day take home test was just "asking for trouble". Hmmmm, so there's $ at every bank. Do you teach your kid to take the $ that's not theirs because having $ at a bank is "asking for trouble?" Ever stop to think maybe the teacher got wind of the page and wanted to prove who was cheating? Stop blaming everything and everyone else and have your kid stand up and take their punishment and all of you finger pointers should move on with your lives.
Jessica Horvath

Brentwood, NY

#63 May 28, 2013
pondering wrote:
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You've proven yourself and your character by saying that the two-day take home test was just "asking for trouble". Hmmmm, so there's $ at every bank. Do you teach your kid to take the $ that's not theirs because having $ at a bank is "asking for trouble?" Ever stop to think maybe the teacher got wind of the page and wanted to prove who was cheating? Stop blaming everything and everyone else and have your kid stand up and take their punishment and all of you finger pointers should move on with your lives.
So you prove who is cheating by sending home a take home test? YOU CAN'T CHEAT ON A TAKE HOME TEST. Any teacher who sends home a take home test and expects the kids to do it by themselves is a MORON. If you don't want collaboration GIVE THE TEST DURING CLASSTIME! What are you even talking about with that money at the bank analogy? It makes zero sense.
Perspective Pete

Brentwood, NY

#64 May 28, 2013
WRisanAss wrote:
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To get the story straight, their were 22 kids in the group. When the page came to the attention of the school the child was asked to take it down IMMEDIATELY (maybe even too quick, IMO). The 11 kids who were involved in taking part, were the ones who were punished. Later that week, the school decided to question the entire class and only 1 child came forward and admitted to being a part of the group. The reason why the media didn't touch upon who was in the group was because it is illegal to do that, you can not use a child's name, obviously. That does not mean that they did not go onto newsday.com , patch, topix, channel12.com , ect and do the job that way anonymously... it was obvious. Nobody knew the children in the group except the kids IN the group. The person who reported the group took their child out of the group the day before, making it obvious that they were waiting for a perfect time to cough up the information and let the info out. The dumbest part of the whole thing was how fabricated this thing got. It was take home labs and homework, can you cheat on that? This person and her friends had a personal vendetta out for certain people and these sick individuals went to whatever extent they needed to hurt people, even if it meant hurting 14 year old kids. It's ok, it wil all come out.
Since you're all about getting the story straight, allow me to point out the obvious here. If the person notified the school anonymously then their identity is anonymous and any statements regarding their identity, their childrens involvement, and the motive behind it are purely assumptions. You can't mix fiction in with facts and try to pass the whole story off as truth. Like I said, the only ones inflicting harm here are the ones pretending to "know" all the details and spreading their stories around like they're facts.
Perspective Pete

Brentwood, NY

#65 May 28, 2013
WRisanAss wrote:
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Pondering: OK, has the state exam been proven? That has yet to be proven so if you want to go there, you should know what you are talking about. Second of all, the "test" was a 2 day take home, it was asking for trouble.
Let me say for the record I am NOT blaming the community, I am blaming my child 100% but there are a LOT of factors that could have caused this NOT to happen. BUT, I will not go there. My parenting had nothing to do with my child's actions of being in a FB group with friends and sharing information.
If you think for a SECOND think that the parent (and her evil friend) who took the child out the DAY before hand nothing to do with this you are kidding yourself. There are only certain people in our district who do nothing but try to bring down the district even if it's at the cost of bringing the kids down as well. Sickos. Oh and the day after media knows? Please, don't fool yourself!
AND, I AM NOT A PART OF THE BOE, so don't even go there.
Any parent can write an anonymous letter to the school accusing anyone of doing anything. Only the school has the authority to determine if the claims have merit, to gather all the facts, and take the appropriate course of action. Any parent can call on the media for any story. Only the media has the authority to determine if the story has merit, to gather all the facts, and to decide if the story is newsworthy enough to run. If you hate these anonymous people so much, why are you so bent on crediting them with power they don't have?

"OK, has the state exam been proven? That has yet to be proven so if you want to go there, you should know what you are talking about."..."If you think for a SECOND think that the parent (and her evil friend) who took the child out the DAY before hand nothing to do with this you are kidding yourself."

Hypocritical much?
Anonymous

Brentwood, NY

#66 May 28, 2013
At King Kullen I was talking to a bunch of parents from the HS and they said the NYSED Board of Regents notified the media on this cheating ring. They said this is still under investigation by the NYSED Board of Regents and some in the ring may get full suspensions.
Crap

Marlboro, NJ

#67 May 28, 2013
Martin Weber wrote:
At King Kullen I was talking to a bunch of parents from the HS and they said the NYSED Board of Regents notified the media on this cheating ring. They said this is still under investigation by the NYSED Board of Regents and some in the ring may get full suspensions.
That's a load of crap. Stop trying to deflect reality. Disgusting parent called the media. Ask the kid of the parent she is already being shunned.
WI parent

West Islip, NY

#68 May 28, 2013
Martin Weber wrote:
At King Kullen I was talking to a bunch of parents from the HS and they said the NYSED Board of Regents notified the media on this cheating ring. They said this is still under investigation by the NYSED Board of Regents and some in the ring may get full suspensions.
Not credible, get a life and stop harassing kids.
WI parent

West Islip, NY

#69 May 28, 2013
Crap wrote:
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That's a load of crap. Stop trying to deflect reality. Disgusting parent called the media. Ask the kid of the parent she is already being shunned.
I hope it is not true that a student is being shunned, no one in the WI community should want one of our children to suffer for the mistakes of others, even if it is a offender is a family member.
Anonymous

Brentwood, NY

#70 May 28, 2013
We will have to wait and see if the NYSED Board of Regents comes up with anything else on the cheating ring. I'm sure the media is not giving us the full story. It does sound that the HS officials are working with the NYSED Board of Regents on the matter so that should keep the school's reputation safe.
Disgusted

Brentwood, NY

#71 May 28, 2013
I hope it is not true that a student is being shunned, no one in the WI community should want one of our children to suffer for the mistakes of others, even if it is a offender is a family member.
Really? Because no one gives a rat's ass when a community leader is attacked and it effects their children? Now everyone should care? Perhaps the parent should have thought about it before they acted. Did they really think they could remain annonymous in this town? Yea about as annonymous as this forum.
Do you think you can be part of a FB since November; then opt out the day before your parent printed 5 pages of dialogue that doesn't implicate you in the very least and not have everyone know it was you? Dumb Ass. If the parent was any kind of parent, they would have made their daughter step up as well and receive the appropriate punishment for breaking the code of conduct. Then perhaps the kid wouldn't be shunned by her peers. I told you KARMA WAS A BITCH. You can't have it all. Sorry, life doesn't work that way. You get what you give. So congratulations to the self-serving parent who felt they were doing the right thing as long as it didn't effect their kid. Bravo! Great ethics you're teaching. And the touch of calling the media with a bogus story so her friends could be harrassed was absolute genius. What an absolute brilliant strategy. How's that working for your kid now? Not so good? Oh well, you should have made her step up and take her lumps with her friends. Guess what? I would forbid my kid to have anything to do with that kid with good reason. So if she is being shunned, you have no one to blame but the parents.
Disgusted

Brentwood, NY

#72 May 28, 2013
Martin Weber wrote:
We will have to wait and see if the NYSED Board of Regents comes up with anything else on the cheating ring. I'm sure the media is not giving us the full story. It does sound that the HS officials are working with the NYSED Board of Regents on the matter so that should keep the school's reputation safe.
How did Homework and a take home test become a "Regent's" exam? I do not believe "Regent exams have been given yet Marty........I would check to school website first before making ridiculous statements.
Steve

Brentwood, NY

#73 May 28, 2013
Disgusted wrote:
I hope it is not true that a student is being shunned, no one in the WI community should want one of our children to suffer for the mistakes of others, even if it is a offender is a family member.
Really? Because no one gives a rat's ass when a community leader is attacked and it effects their children? Now everyone should care? Perhaps the parent should have thought about it before they acted. Did they really think they could remain annonymous in this town? Yea about as annonymous as this forum.
Do you think you can be part of a FB since November; then opt out the day before your parent printed 5 pages of dialogue that doesn't implicate you in the very least and not have everyone know it was you? Dumb Ass. If the parent was any kind of parent, they would have made their daughter step up as well and receive the appropriate punishment for breaking the code of conduct. Then perhaps the kid wouldn't be shunned by her peers. I told you KARMA WAS A BITCH. You can't have it all. Sorry, life doesn't work that way. You get what you give. So congratulations to the self-serving parent who felt they were doing the right thing as long as it didn't effect their kid. Bravo! Great ethics you're teaching. And the touch of calling the media with a bogus story so her friends could be harrassed was absolute genius. What an absolute brilliant strategy. How's that working for your kid now? Not so good? Oh well, you should have made her step up and take her lumps with her friends. Guess what? I would forbid my kid to have anything to do with that kid with good reason. So if she is being shunned, you have no one to blame but the parents.
Wow so as a parent you decided the best approach to handling your child's wrongdoing was to have your child shun those who did not get in trouble. You really need parental counseling. Please get help. Your children are suffering from your very poor parental guidance. It is not their fault, it is your fault as a low-life parent. They cheat because of your poor parenting. You probably told your kids "don't worry about cheating, go find out who didn't cheat and get them in trouble". Sad, very sad.
Steve

Brentwood, NY

#74 May 28, 2013
Disgusted wrote:
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Nice try. You think 14 year old kids sharing homework and a take hime test is some new and creative way to cheat? And you think this is news worthy? Are you telling me that our brilliant 14 year olds were the first to do this that it grabbed NATIONAL attention? The fact is, the parent who printed out the facebook page selectively chose which 12 would be implicated That page had 26 kids and it was a closed group That same parent called the media with a fabricated story that sent them out here. So where is your rightious indignation for the 14 who were not named? Werent they all cheating as well? Shouldnt that rightious parent be sure that her child receive the same punishment? Make sure the media knew her name? No?? Not feeling that?? Right The only person who made this about simething else was that parent who contacted the media with the false story. Nice try though
Yes nice, don't discipline your kids because they do no wrong. This is all about the kids that didn't get in trouble. You are truly an idiot.
Anonymous

Brentwood, NY

#75 May 28, 2013
The NYSED Board of Regents are responsible for the general supervision of all educational activities within the State, presiding over The University and the New York State Education Department. The University of the State of New York is the nation's most comprehensive and unified educational system. It consists of all elementary, secondary, and postsecondary educational institutions, libraries, museums, public broadcasting, records and archives, professions, Adult Career and Continuing Education Services, and such other institutions, organizations, and agencies as may be admitted to The University. The concept of The University of the State of New York is a broad term encompassing all the institutions, both public and private, offering education in the State.
Mikeandserena

Marlboro, NJ

#76 May 28, 2013
Martin, you are such a good googler of information! Careful, we might call news12 and turn you in for using the Internet!! Just a clue though: this is a local issue and state Ed can't get out of its own way with its red tape and over priced administrators, and common core curriculum. The kids have been punished, why can't you leave them alone already?
Anonymous

Brentwood, NY

#77 May 28, 2013
My thinking is this goes beyond the kids. It likely has to do with the execution of the NYSED's curriculum by the West Islip schools and how technology is used in the classroom. Our society's fascination with social media devices opens up so many issues. HS officials will need to evaluate the best way to proceed and hopefully these unacceptable acts will be a thing of the past.
DeeDee

Brentwood, NY

#78 May 28, 2013
Perspective Pete wrote:
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Since you're all about getting the story straight, allow me to point out the obvious here. If the person notified the school anonymously then their identity is anonymous and any statements regarding their identity, their childrens involvement, and the motive behind it are purely assumptions. You can't mix fiction in with facts and try to pass the whole story off as truth. Like I said, the only ones inflicting harm here are the ones pretending to "know" all the details and spreading their stories around like they're facts.
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Disgusted

Brentwood, NY

#79 May 29, 2013
Steve wrote:
<quoted text>Yes nice, don't discipline your kids because they do no wrong. This is all about the kids that didn't get in trouble. You are truly an idiot.
No no no, they cheated just like the rest. They just didn't get caught. Are you saying its ok as long as you don't get caught? And then the parent made sure their kid wasn't implicated? Uh huh. Who is the idiot.
Disgusted

Brentwood, NY

#80 May 29, 2013
Steve wrote:
<quoted text>Wow so as a parent you decided the best approach to handling your child's wrongdoing was to have your child shun those who did not get in trouble. You really need parental counseling. Please get help. Your children are suffering from your very poor parental guidance. It is not their fault, it is your fault as a low-life parent. They cheat because of your poor parenting. You probably told your kids "don't worry about cheating, go find out who didn't cheat and get them in trouble". Sad, very sad.
Clearly you are missing the point so let me state it clearly and slowly. That kid was a part of the FB page since Nov. That makes her a "cheater". She didn't get in trouble because her parents are low life's and opted her out of the page the day before they selectively reported her 12 friends. I say selectively because there were more than those 12 that belonged to that closed FB page. Now. For all your righteous indignation I would think that you would agree that the parents should have also made their daughter step up and receive her punishment for cheating with her friends (as part of those stellar parenting skills). No? Not feeling that? So what you are saying is that it's OK to cheat as long as you do not get caught? Uh huh and I need help with my parenting skills?
WI parent

West Islip, NY

#81 May 29, 2013
Martin Weber wrote:
My thinking is this goes beyond the kids. It likely has to do with the execution of the NYSED's curriculum by the West Islip schools and how technology is used in the classroom. Our society's fascination with social media devices opens up so many issues. HS officials will need to evaluate the best way to proceed and hopefully these unacceptable acts will be a thing of the past.
Seems like overreach at the expense of 'our'(entire WI student body) kids. Only folks at the district level have the details: everyone else is acting/judging on snippets, some personal agendas and lots of emotion. Leave the handling of the situation to those with the facts. Your earlier KK post indicates you are trying to increase the scope of the issue. You sound like an adult, I ask you to stop harassing these and all kids.

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