Steve

Bay Shore, NY

#42 May 26, 2013
Disgusted wrote:
The gloating minority of this town is disgusting. To think that grown adults would create a "scandal" that involves 9th grade students, as a way of allegedly exposing "somthing" that doesn't exist is by far the lowest level that anyone in this town has ever sunk to. I do not know how some of you sleep at night. Can one actually "cheat" on homework? Can one actually "cheat" on a take home test? I mean, you can easily have a study group at home and share answers; you can get those same answers off the internet as well as a from a parent or a friend; these kids chose to leverage technology. Wrong....perhaps, but I believe we are splitting hairs. So, let's keep it all in perspective here. I do not know what their punishment was, nor does it matter to me personally. What does matter, is that not all 26 kids that were involved or had access to the "page" were punished; only 12 were. Why you may ask? Well, because the "parent" who printed out only 5 pages of a facebook page that was up since November, selectively printed 5 pages that didn't involve her child. Then went ahead and "reported" the "cheating" (not her child, of course)to school administration, who I believe took action. That same parent then went ahead and called the "media" so that some of those selected 12 could have their families harrassed by scum bag reporters and would then have the audacity to sit around and "gloat" that 14 year old children are now being used to seek retribution for something they had nothing to do with. You are disgusting people, scum of the earth as far as I'm concerned. There will come a day, however, when the favor can and will be returned, make no mistake; KARMA IS A BITCH.
It sounds to me like you have some personal anger issues on this topic. Also sounds like you know quite a lot about what happened. Tell us more. I assume you are a parent of the "selected 12". It may be time for you to get some parental counseling. Instead of looking for revenge, it may be time to sit with a therapist to find out what you have been missing as far as being a parent. You owe it to your kids, please.
Disgusted

Brentwood, NY

#43 May 27, 2013
Steve wrote:
<quoted text>It sounds to me like you have some personal anger issues on this topic. Also sounds like you know quite a lot about what happened. Tell us more. I assume you are a parent of the "selected 12". It may be time for you to get some parental counseling. Instead of looking for revenge, it may be time to sit with a therapist to find out what you have been missing as far as being a parent. You owe it to your kids, please.
Dear Stevie,
Please don't confuse anger for disgust. Folks like you make my skin crawl. You can assume all you want; for example, you can assume I am a parent of one of these kids (I am not); you can assume I am out for "revenge" (I am not, but perhaps you were, hence the call to the media, to chase down 14 year old kids and their families before the school district finished their investigation, I might add). Lastly, you can assume I am the one in need of therapy for alleged poor parenting skills (however, I'm not quite sure how you deem yourself qualified to make that assessment). There are some in this town who are definately in need of therapy: 1) Those that would contact the media for 14 year olds sharing homework and a take-home test answers 2) Those that threaten their neighbors with lawsuits and stalk them incessantly 3) Those that believe that their 8 year olds are going to the world cup, the major leagues or getting Full Scholarships based on their 8 year old Lacross skills and lastly, those that refuse to see their children as the bullies that they are (afterall, they have learned from the best, their parents, you know, the one's that you believe don't need therapy). Enough said.
Bored Of Ed

West Islip, NY

#44 May 27, 2013
DISGUSTED, you are so correct!
I Agree

Brentwood, NY

#45 May 27, 2013
Disgusted wrote:
<quoted text>
Dear Stevie,
Please don't confuse anger for disgust. Folks like you make my skin crawl. You can assume all you want; for example, you can assume I am a parent of one of these kids (I am not); you can assume I am out for "revenge" (I am not, but perhaps you were, hence the call to the media, to chase down 14 year old kids and their families before the school district finished their investigation, I might add). Lastly, you can assume I am the one in need of therapy for alleged poor parenting skills (however, I'm not quite sure how you deem yourself qualified to make that assessment). There are some in this town who are definately in need of therapy: 1) Those that would contact the media for 14 year olds sharing homework and a take-home test answers 2) Those that threaten their neighbors with lawsuits and stalk them incessantly 3) Those that believe that their 8 year olds are going to the world cup, the major leagues or getting Full Scholarships based on their 8 year old Lacross skills and lastly, those that refuse to see their children as the bullies that they are (afterall, they have learned from the best, their parents, you know, the one's that you believe don't need therapy). Enough said.
Wish Topix had a love button!
phil

West Islip, NY

#46 May 27, 2013
Disgusted wrote:
<quoted text>
Dear Stevie,
Please don't confuse anger for disgust. Folks like you make my skin crawl. You can assume all you want; for example, you can assume I am a parent of one of these kids (I am not); you can assume I am out for "revenge" (I am not, but perhaps you were, hence the call to the media, to chase down 14 year old kids and their families before the school district finished their investigation, I might add). Lastly, you can assume I am the one in need of therapy for alleged poor parenting skills (however, I'm not quite sure how you deem yourself qualified to make that assessment). There are some in this town who are definately in need of therapy: 1) Those that would contact the media for 14 year olds sharing homework and a take-home test answers 2) Those that threaten their neighbors with lawsuits and stalk them incessantly 3) Those that believe that their 8 year olds are going to the world cup, the major leagues or getting Full Scholarships based on their 8 year old Lacross skills and lastly, those that refuse to see their children as the bullies that they are (afterall, they have learned from the best, their parents, you know, the one's that you believe don't need therapy). Enough said.
Questions: If this was just a homework assignment then why did the superintendent feel a suspension was in order for 12 students? The Superintendent's punishment doesn't seem to fit the 'no-biggie' story you're telling us. What also doesn't fit your 'no-biggie' story is that there's a person in WI with so much media pull that they can have several different news stations race to WI to report on a story they’ve made up. WR’s name has been insinuated by the same person over and over though out this forum as the one who snapped her fingers and had the media at her feet. Did you ever stop to ask yourself why? Seriously…why would she MAKE UP a story about 14 year old minors when she has been able to PROVE over and over so many blunders, oversights and inaccuracies made by the BOE? You would think if WR was able to have the media at the snap of her finger, she’d already have handed them the connection between the district’s real estate broker, Annmarie Larossa and her business partner whose lease for Westbrook have so many $ mistakes and so many $ omissions that nobody ever noticed. If I was WR and had the power of the media (as you say she has) I would have dropped a media dime on Annmarie Larossa’s connection to that shady Westbrook lease with her business partner the week before WI’s BOE vote. Another question: Who’s stalking and why hasn’t the stalkee notified the authorities by now? Who’s a bully? Whom have they bullied? It sounds like you’re making up conspiracy theories with cloak and dagger drama as you go. Please provide us with some proof of your claims
Disgusted

Brentwood, NY

#47 May 27, 2013
phil wrote:
<quoted text>
Questions: If this was just a homework assignment then why did the superintendent feel a suspension was in order for 12 students? The Superintendent's punishment doesn't seem to fit the 'no-biggie' story you're telling us. What also doesn't fit your 'no-biggie' story is that there's a person in WI with so much media pull that they can have several different news stations race to WI to report on a story they’ve made up. WR’s name has been insinuated by the same person over and over though out this forum as the one who snapped her fingers and had the media at her feet. Did you ever stop to ask yourself why? Seriously…why would she MAKE UP a story about 14 year old minors when she has been able to PROVE over and over so many blunders, oversights and inaccuracies made by the BOE? You would think if WR was able to have the media at the snap of her finger, she’d already have handed them the connection between the district’s real estate broker, Annmarie Larossa and her business partner whose lease for Westbrook have so many $ mistakes and so many $ omissions that nobody ever noticed. If I was WR and had the power of the media (as you say she has) I would have dropped a media dime on Annmarie Larossa’s connection to that shady Westbrook lease with her business partner the week before WI’s BOE vote. Another question: Who’s stalking and why hasn’t the stalkee notified the authorities by now? Who’s a bully? Whom have they bullied? It sounds like you’re making up conspiracy theories with cloak and dagger drama as you go. Please provide us with some proof of your claims
I haven't actually insinuated that individual's behind this at all; so I find all of your comments extremely fascinating. For the record, I never said nor implied she was behind any of it. Yes dear, the media rushed here on made up stories and were clearly disappointed when they got here for the non-story. And that is what i find so disgusting. The fact that anyone would use 14 year old kids for retribution ( and based on your post, you just outed exactly what this is all really about, not about a bunch of kids sharing homework, but about something else entirely)Wasn't even worth the gas money spent for them to get out here. As I understand it, the school administration determined that the code of conduct was broken. Do you honestly believe that the media rushed out here BEFORE the school had finished their investigation because a bunch of 14 year old kids violated the schools code of conduct? I do not know the punishment they received. I know they weren't thrown out of school even for a day, so I don't know why you are stating they were. As for that women's super-sleuthing, I would say she needs to get a life; as I certainly think the behavior is obsessive; but hey, Whatever blows your skirt up. If you haven't seen the attempts at cyber-bullying on this and other forums, then I would think you should take a look in the mirror. You are one of them; your post above is a clear attempt at just that. The "connections" as you like to call them are all a part of your very own conspiracy theory and enough drama for a reality TV show. All you are missing is Colonel Mustard and the Candlestick. Please get a clue.
Missy

New York, NY

#48 May 27, 2013
phil wrote:
<quoted text>
Questions: If this was just a homework assignment then why did the superintendent feel a suspension was in order for 12 students? The Superintendent's punishment doesn't seem to fit the 'no-biggie' story you're telling us. What also doesn't fit your 'no-biggie' story is that there's a person in WI with so much media pull that they can have several different news stations race to WI to report on a story they’ve made up. WR’s name has been insinuated by the same person over and over though out this forum as the one who snapped her fingers and had the media at her feet. Did you ever stop to ask yourself why? Seriously…why would she MAKE UP a story about 14 year old minors when she has been able to PROVE over and over so many blunders, oversights and inaccuracies made by the BOE? You would think if WR was able to have the media at the snap of her finger, she’d already have handed them the connection between the district’s real estate broker, Annmarie Larossa and her business partner whose lease for Westbrook have so many $ mistakes and so many $ omissions that nobody ever noticed. If I was WR and had the power of the media (as you say she has) I would have dropped a media dime on Annmarie Larossa’s connection to that shady Westbrook lease with her business partner the week before WI’s BOE vote. Another question: Who’s stalking and why hasn’t the stalkee notified the authorities by now? Who’s a bully? Whom have they bullied? It sounds like you’re making up conspiracy theories with cloak and dagger drama as you go. Please provide us with some proof of your claims
Nice try "Phil"... "Disgusted" was spot on in both posts. It's pathetic, really it is. It's true what Disgusted said.. What goes around, will make it's way back.. The only one patting this person on the back is this person. Most people see it for what it is..
Reader

West Islip, NY

#49 May 27, 2013
Disgusted wrote:
<quoted text>
I haven't actually insinuated that individual's behind this at all; so I find all of your comments extremely fascinating. For the record, I never said nor implied she was behind any of it. Yes dear, the media rushed here on made up stories and were clearly disappointed when they got here for the non-story. And that is what i find so disgusting. The fact that anyone would use 14 year old kids for retribution ( and based on your post, you just outed exactly what this is all really about, not about a bunch of kids sharing homework, but about something else entirely)Wasn't even worth the gas money spent for them to get out here. As I understand it, the school administration determined that the code of conduct was broken. Do you honestly believe that the media rushed out here BEFORE the school had finished their investigation because a bunch of 14 year old kids violated the schools code of conduct? I do not know the punishment they received. I know they weren't thrown out of school even for a day, so I don't know why you are stating they were. As for that women's super-sleuthing, I would say she needs to get a life; as I certainly think the behavior is obsessive; but hey, Whatever blows your skirt up. If you haven't seen the attempts at cyber-bullying on this and other forums, then I would think you should take a look in the mirror. You are one of them; your post above is a clear attempt at just that. The "connections" as you like to call them are all a part of your very own conspiracy theory and enough drama for a reality TV show. All you are missing is Colonel Mustard and the Candlestick. Please get a clue.
disgusted, you have hit the nail on the head. None of this nonsense was about the kids and their Facebook page, all of it was about adults looking to create trouble for the school distinct... The fact that "Phil" mentions Westbrook and Annmarie laRosa confirms it all for me. These people are obsessed to hang this woman, and will stop at nothing or no one to do it. The media were lied to, told that there was a cover up going on, and that's why they came crawling into west Islip,, looking for a story on a slow news day. I will say though that I am hearing a different name as the rat but I wouldn't be surprised if wr had her fingers touching his one as well.
Perspective Pete

Bay Shore, NY

#50 May 27, 2013
Not one news story stated that a child of a board of ed member was involved. The interest of the media was that kids had found a new and clever way to do what they have always been doing. This story was picked up in places across the country. You really think anybody in California gives a hoot whose kid it was? Whose kids they are have nothing to do with it. When the media reports about kids finding new and clever ways to get high off of different products, parents welcome that information. Why should this be any different? Take the giant ego of a certain board member who thinks that anything and everything that goes on in this town is all about her out of the picture and what you are left with is simply a teaching moment that parents can use to help keep their kids on the right track. Is the thought here really that who ever discovered this Facebook page only notified the school because of certain kids that were in the group? Otherwise, what? They would have just looked the other way? Really?? The only damage being inflicted here is by those who are turning this story into something it isn't by imagining up ulterior motives.
Disgusted

Brentwood, NY

#51 May 27, 2013
Perspective Pete wrote:
Not one news story stated that a child of a board of ed member was involved. The interest of the media was that kids had found a new and clever way to do what they have always been doing. This story was picked up in places across the country. You really think anybody in California gives a hoot whose kid it was? Whose kids they are have nothing to do with it. When the media reports about kids finding new and clever ways to get high off of different products, parents welcome that information. Why should this be any different? Take the giant ego of a certain board member who thinks that anything and everything that goes on in this town is all about her out of the picture and what you are left with is simply a teaching moment that parents can use to help keep their kids on the right track. Is the thought here really that who ever discovered this Facebook page only notified the school because of certain kids that were in the group? Otherwise, what? They would have just looked the other way? Really?? The only damage being inflicted here is by those who are turning this story into something it isn't by imagining up ulterior motives.
,

Nice try. You think 14 year old kids sharing homework and a take hime test is some new and creative way to cheat? And you think this is news worthy? Are you telling me that our brilliant 14 year olds were the first to do this that it grabbed NATIONAL attention? The fact is, the parent who printed out the facebook page selectively chose which 12 would be implicated That page had 26 kids and it was a closed group That same parent called the media with a fabricated story that sent them out here. So where is your rightious indignation for the 14 who were not named? Werent they all cheating as well? Shouldnt that rightious parent be sure that her child receive the same punishment? Make sure the media knew her name? No?? Not feeling that?? Right The only person who made this about simething else was that parent who contacted the media with the false story. Nice try though
Reader

West Islip, NY

#52 May 28, 2013
Perspective Pete wrote:
Not one news story stated that a child of a board of ed member was involved. The interest of the media was that kids had found a new and clever way to do what they have always been doing. This story was picked up in places across the country. You really think anybody in California gives a hoot whose kid it was? Whose kids they are have nothing to do with it. When the media reports about kids finding new and clever ways to get high off of different products, parents welcome that information. Why should this be any different? Take the giant ego of a certain board member who thinks that anything and everything that goes on in this town is all about her out of the picture and what you are left with is simply a teaching moment that parents can use to help keep their kids on the right track. Is the thought here really that who ever discovered this Facebook page only notified the school because of certain kids that were in the group? Otherwise, what? They would have just looked the other way? Really?? The only damage being inflicted here is by those who are turning this story into something it isn't by imagining up ulterior motives.
Pete, no matter how you slice it, if the "concerned parent" who anonymously dropped the copies of the page to the principal had stopped there, then this discussion wouldn't be taking place. School would have done the disciplining just like every other incident that goes on at the high school. However, this parent then called th media. And when the media arrived? They were asking outrageous far fetched questions regarding scandle, cover ups, state testing and conspiracies. The media wa fed bad information and they were looking fir a story to rival the glen cove cheating story. The peron who called th media was trying to blow ths story up to in the very least embarrass the school district and the students. It was despicable.
CBofWI

Deer Park, NY

#53 May 28, 2013
Disgusted wrote:
<quoted text>
I haven't actually insinuated that individual's behind this at all; so I find all of your comments extremely fascinating. For the record, I never said nor implied she was behind any of it. Yes dear, the media rushed here on made up stories and were clearly disappointed when they got here for the non-story. And that is what i find so disgusting. The fact that anyone would use 14 year old kids for retribution ( and based on your post, you just outed exactly what this is all really about, not about a bunch of kids sharing homework, but about something else entirely)Wasn't even worth the gas money spent for them to get out here. As I understand it, the school administration determined that the code of conduct was broken. Do you honestly believe that the media rushed out here BEFORE the school had finished their investigation because a bunch of 14 year old kids violated the schools code of conduct? I do not know the punishment they received. I know they weren't thrown out of school even for a day, so I don't know why you are stating they were. As for that women's super-sleuthing, I would say she needs to get a life; as I certainly think the behavior is obsessive; but hey, Whatever blows your skirt up. If you haven't seen the attempts at cyber-bullying on this and other forums, then I would think you should take a look in the mirror. You are one of them; your post above is a clear attempt at just that. The "connections" as you like to call them are all a part of your very own conspiracy theory and enough drama for a reality TV show. All you are missing is Colonel Mustard and the Candlestick. Please get a clue.
It moves real quick from Colonel Mustard to IB forcing a New World Order and Obozocare. We will all fall victim to the agendas of their foreign programme.
Perspective Pete

Bay Shore, NY

#54 May 28, 2013
If you know that the page had 26 kids then I'm guessing so did the school. Which 12 kids were disciplined and why is on the school, not on the parent who tipped them off. There was nothing in the news story about the board of ed, who the kids were, what the discipline was, or that there was any kind of coverup going on. So if it was such a nonstory why did they even run it and why did medias from Connecticut to California all pick up on the story? How do you explain why it gained national attention? Facebook gained the media attention, not the kids or the district.

Since: May 13

Location hidden

#55 May 28, 2013
Perspective Pete wrote:
If you know that the page had 26 kids then I'm guessing so did the school. Which 12 kids were disciplined and why is on the school, not on the parent who tipped them off. There was nothing in the news story about the board of ed, who the kids were, what the discipline was, or that there was any kind of coverup going on. So if it was such a nonstory why did they even run it and why did medias from Connecticut to California all pick up on the story? How do you explain why it gained national attention? Facebook gained the media attention, not the kids or the district.
To get the story straight, their were 22 kids in the group. When the page came to the attention of the school the child was asked to take it down IMMEDIATELY (maybe even too quick, IMO). The 11 kids who were involved in taking part, were the ones who were punished. Later that week, the school decided to question the entire class and only 1 child came forward and admitted to being a part of the group. The reason why the media didn't touch upon who was in the group was because it is illegal to do that, you can not use a child's name, obviously. That does not mean that they did not go onto newsday.com , patch, topix, channel12.com , ect and do the job that way anonymously... it was obvious. Nobody knew the children in the group except the kids IN the group. The person who reported the group took their child out of the group the day before, making it obvious that they were waiting for a perfect time to cough up the information and let the info out. The dumbest part of the whole thing was how fabricated this thing got. It was take home labs and homework, can you cheat on that? This person and her friends had a personal vendetta out for certain people and these sick individuals went to whatever extent they needed to hurt people, even if it meant hurting 14 year old kids. It's ok, it wil all come out.
pondering

West Islip, NY

#56 May 28, 2013
WRisanAss wrote:
<quoted text>
To get the story straight, their were 22 kids in the group. When the page came to the attention of the school the child was asked to take it down IMMEDIATELY (maybe even too quick, IMO). The 11 kids who were involved in taking part, were the ones who were punished. Later that week, the school decided to question the entire class and only 1 child came forward and admitted to being a part of the group. The reason why the media didn't touch upon who was in the group was because it is illegal to do that, you can not use a child's name, obviously. That does not mean that they did not go onto newsday.com , patch, topix, channel12.com , ect and do the job that way anonymously... it was obvious. Nobody knew the children in the group except the kids IN the group. The person who reported the group took their child out of the group the day before, making it obvious that they were waiting for a perfect time to cough up the information and let the info out. The dumbest part of the whole thing was how fabricated this thing got. It was take home labs and homework, can you cheat on that? This person and her friends had a personal vendetta out for certain people and these sick individuals went to whatever extent they needed to hurt people, even if it meant hurting 14 year old kids. It's ok, it wil all come out.
You left out the part about the picture of the test and picture of the state lab appearing on facebook. Yeah, that's called cheating that's not sharing homework. If this was a closed facebook page then how did the tipper-offer even know it existed? Why would the parent of one of the cheating kids tipp off the media? Anyone could easily see on facebook that tipper's kid was once part of the closed group. So the parent takes their kid out of the closed facebook group and then tipps off the district? Why? What your saying happened doesn't make any sense.
pondering

West Islip, NY

#57 May 28, 2013
C'mon it's not all going to come out. It's all going to get swept under the rug and they're going to say it never happened here in WI.
Jeff Foxworthy

Bay Shore, NY

#58 May 28, 2013
If your kid cheats on an exam and as a parent you blame the community, you might be a redneck from West Islip.
Jessica Horvath

Brentwood, NY

#59 May 28, 2013
Ok you know so much. There is a district rule that no cellphones are to be used during school hours - do YOU have a high schooler? You think you know so much! HAHAHAHA.

They are using their phones during class. It is hilarious that you think otherwise.

They passed homework answers - you think this is a crime? IT IS HOMEWORK! HOME being the operative word. Are you not allowed to collaborate on HOMEWORK?

Since you know so much how exactly are you claiming that they used facebook to CHEAT? Funny you believe they are cheating on facebook but don't believe that they use phones in class!!! Get your head out of the sand.
Jessica Horvath

Brentwood, NY

#60 May 28, 2013
phil wrote:
<quoted text>
Questions: If this was just a homework assignment then why did the superintendent feel a suspension was in order for 12 students? The Superintendent's punishment doesn't seem to fit the 'no-biggie' story you're telling us. What also doesn't fit your 'no-biggie' story is that there's a person in WI with so much media pull that they can have several different news stations race to WI to report on a story they’ve made up. WR’s name has been insinuated by the same person over and over though out this forum as the one who snapped her fingers and had the media at her feet. Did you ever stop to ask yourself why? Seriously…why would she MAKE UP a story about 14 year old minors when she has been able to PROVE over and over so many blunders, oversights and inaccuracies made by the BOE? You would think if WR was able to have the media at the snap of her finger, she’d already have handed them the connection between the district’s real estate broker, Annmarie Larossa and her business partner whose lease for Westbrook have so many $ mistakes and so many $ omissions that nobody ever noticed. If I was WR and had the power of the media (as you say she has) I would have dropped a media dime on Annmarie Larossa’s connection to that shady Westbrook lease with her business partner the week before WI’s BOE vote. Another question: Who’s stalking and why hasn’t the stalkee notified the authorities by now? Who’s a bully? Whom have they bullied? It sounds like you’re making up conspiracy theories with cloak and dagger drama as you go. Please provide us with some proof of your claims
Valid question. He probably felt like something had to be done as it made the NEWS! The whole thing is so stupid.

Since: May 13

Location hidden

#61 May 28, 2013
pondering wrote:
<quoted text>
You left out the part about the picture of the test and picture of the state lab appearing on facebook. Yeah, that's called cheating that's not sharing homework. If this was a closed facebook page then how did the tipper-offer even know it existed? Why would the parent of one of the cheating kids tipp off the media? Anyone could easily see on facebook that tipper's kid was once part of the closed group. So the parent takes their kid out of the closed facebook group and then tipps off the district? Why? What your saying happened doesn't make any sense.
Pondering: OK, has the state exam been proven? That has yet to be proven so if you want to go there, you should know what you are talking about. Second of all, the "test" was a 2 day take home, it was asking for trouble.
Let me say for the record I am NOT blaming the community, I am blaming my child 100% but there are a LOT of factors that could have caused this NOT to happen. BUT, I will not go there. My parenting had nothing to do with my child's actions of being in a FB group with friends and sharing information.

If you think for a SECOND think that the parent (and her evil friend) who took the child out the DAY before hand nothing to do with this you are kidding yourself. There are only certain people in our district who do nothing but try to bring down the district even if it's at the cost of bringing the kids down as well. Sickos. Oh and the day after media knows? Please, don't fool yourself!

AND, I AM NOT A PART OF THE BOE, so don't even go there.

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