Get ready to pay more for health coverage

Oct 16, 2009 Full story: www.msnbc.msn.com 48
With annual “open enrollment” season approaching for choosing health care options, get ready to pay more. No matter what happens with national health care reform, employers already are shifting part of the rising cost of care to employees. Full Story
Mike

United States

#21 Oct 16, 2009
Danny_Livewire wrote:
<quoted text>
It's because Conservative idiotic morons are preventing him from doing REAL good..... When Bush passed billions for banks and auto executives, they cheered... But when Obama wanted to pass a bailout for the working class, construction firms, and teachers.... They cried that he is spending too much!
Conservatives don't realize how they are brainwashed by international bankers who fund commercials on major news networks that repeat the same garbage: Pro-Corporation is Anti-American Citizen
Those corporations are multi-national... they are not US companies.
Do the research... Look at the shareholders and owners of your favorite news media conglomerations and THAT will tell you who is behind the scheme.
Just look at how they actively defend insurance companies!
WAKE UP!!!
Look at who's pushing Obamacare and why. WAKE UP!!!

"Big Pharma, according to Forbes, is expected to spend as much as $150 million on ads supporting Obamacare. The 1997 FDA rule change that opened the door to direct TV ads aimed at patients, rather than their doctors, heralded a golden age of unprecedented profits. But many of those so-called miracle drugs developed in the 90s are about to go off patent and this will shrink Pharma's profits. The president has promised the drug companies that if they give $80 billion discounts up front, then there will be no haggling with the government over pricing in the future. Good deal for Big Pharma; bad deal for taxpayers."

"If you wonder why the union bosses are sending thugs to harass, intimidate and assault Obamacare dissenters at townhall meetings, there are billions of reasons hidden in the legislation. Union bosses spent so much money - about $65 million -- getting Democrats elected last year that they are now on the financial ropes. Obama's campaign got $28 million from the SEIU alone. Unions now have only about 30 cents for every dollar of projected costs for member pension plans. Buried in Section 164 of Obamacare is the anticipated $10 billion taxpayer bailout that helps these union bosses make up for their profligate political spending. And that's only the first-on-the-table figure. It's sure to get bigger and bigger as time passes."
stella007

Minneapolis, MN

#23 Oct 16, 2009
Fed Up with the Socialism wrote:
<quoted text>Read a little more sweetie and educate yourself.
The government does this BECAUSE THEY CAN.
If you think that the government(note that they are not the same as a health care provider) have your best interests at heart
you are badly mistaken.
I would go with the gvt and give up Blue Cross and its continuous denial of coverage any day. Hence OPTION, don't participate if you CHOOSE not to. But on the other hand, with competition (GVT OPTION) VS the insurance cartels, YOUR rates should decrease as well.
DEFEND THIS: In theses states: SD ND SC SD WY MS and ID insurance companies deny U.S. citizens that are victims of domestic violence coverage because it is a "preexisting condition."
Is that acceptable?
Eleanor

Mundelein, IL

#24 Oct 16, 2009
curious wrote:
8% more for me, to be exact. at my company we have to pay 8% more toward the purchase of our health care than we did last year....all so that the illegal baby mills can come here and drain our system dry and the insurance companies can become the biggest profit makers in the country. they don't pay for anything and they send most of their pay back to their homeland to support their family and economy. just go to a hospital and see who pays and who doesn't. they're the ones that need to start paying, not the American on the unemployment line who worked all his life, payed into the system all their lives and got layed off because a bunch of greedy low-lives created a global economic crisis.
national health care, my azz...it's become international health care!
Perhaps hospitals that provide free services to the undocumented should team up with I.C.E. and give the undocumented a free trip home (along with ANY and ALL undocumented in their household). That in itself may provide incentive for the undocumented to return to their homeland and for others not to come to this country in the first place.(also stop 'anchor baby' rip-offs)

“Truth to Power!”

Since: Apr 07

United States

#25 Oct 16, 2009
Jeffery Wright wrote:
During the presidential campaign, Barack Obama made repeated trips to rust belt states like Michigan to assure workers that a vote for him was a vote for job security. When he reneged on that promise within three months of winning the election by making General Motors a ward of the state, auto workers were understandably vexed.

So what did President Obama do to quell the unrest?
He went back to Michigan and made a speech, explaining how it could have been worse.

"We saw 400,000 jobs lost in the auto industry in the year before this restructuring even began. I will not pretend the hard times are over. Difficult days lie ahead. More jobs will be lost. More plants will close. More dealerships will shut their doors, and so will many parts suppliers."

Then he said this:“I want you to know that what you’re doing is making a sacrifice for the next generation.”
ObamaCare: How Much Are You Willing to Sacrifice?

http://snipurl.com/sjvlo
The Great Deceiver Obama gets caught in another one. What a maggot.
inept obama

United States

#26 Oct 16, 2009
Eleanor wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you ... those are very good points. But, who ends up paying for those in the exclusion group (addicts, AIDS, etc.)?? We need to find a way to get the uninsured to PAY SOMETHING, instead of leaving it to the general public to pick up their tab. Perhaps the public option is getting to look better.
Most of them don't pay because they don't seek treatment. If there was free health care provided the hospitals would be swamped with new patients.

“Truth to Power!”

Since: Apr 07

United States

#27 Oct 16, 2009
stella007 wrote:
<quoted text>
I would go with the gvt and give up Blue Cross and its continuous denial of coverage any day. Hence OPTION, don't participate if you CHOOSE not to. But on the other hand, with competition (GVT OPTION) VS the insurance cartels, YOUR rates should decrease as well.
DEFEND THIS: In theses states: SD ND SC SD WY MS and ID insurance companies deny U.S. citizens that are victims of domestic violence coverage because it is a "preexisting condition."
Is that acceptable?
Post your source link. Something smells "fishy"...like another 1/2 truth (aka lie).

“Truth to Power!”

Since: Apr 07

United States

#29 Oct 16, 2009
I found this psalm made me chuckle

PSALM 2008-2012
>> FIRST BOOK OF DEMOCRAT
>>
>>
>>
>> OBAMA IS MY SHEPHERD,
>>
>> I SHALL NOT WANT.
>>
>>
>> HE LEADETH ME BESIDE STILL FACTORIES.
>>
>>
>> HE RESTORETH MY FAITH IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.
>>
>>
>> HE GUIDETH ME IN THE PATH OF UNEMPLOYMENT.
>>
>>
>> YEA, THOUGH I WALK THROUGHT THE VALLEY OF THE BREAD LINE,
>>
>> I SHALL NOT GO HUNGRY.
>>
>>
>> OBAMA HAS ANOINTED MY INCOME WITH TAXES,
>>
>>
>> MY EXPENSES RUNNETH OVER MY INCOME,
>>
>>
>> SURELY, POVERTY AND HARD LIVING WILL FOLLOW ME ALL THE DAYS OF MY LIFE.
>>
>>
>> THE DEMOCRATS AND I WILL LIVE FOREVER
>>
>> IN A RENTED HOME.
>>
>>
>> BUT I AM GLAD I AM AN AMERICAN,
>>
>> I AM GLAD THAT I AM FREE.
>>
>> BUT I WISH I WAS A DOG
>>
>> AND OBAMA A TREE.
next year

Hollywood, FL

#30 Oct 16, 2009
And now this???? obama MUST GO!!! The federal budget deficit has surged to an all-time high of $1.42 trillion as the recession caused tax revenues to plunge while the government was spending massive amounts to stabilize the financial system and jump-start the economy.

The imbalance for the budget year ended Sept. 30, more than tripled last year's record. The Obama administration projects deficits will total $9.1 trillion over the next decade unless corrective action is taken.

As a portion of the economy, the budget deficit stood at 10 percent, the highest since World War II, according to government data released Friday.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091016/ap_on_bi_...
community idiot

Palm Bay, FL

#31 Oct 16, 2009
Eleanor wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you ... those are very good points. But, who ends up paying for those in the exclusion group (addicts, AIDS, etc.)?? We need to find a way to get the uninsured to PAY SOMETHING, instead of leaving it to the general public to pick up their tab. Perhaps the public option is getting to look better.
end result no insurance for anyone
did it ever occur to you that rahms' brother ezekial
wants to end any treatment for anyone outside of the 15-45 age group?
add to that the latest threat to arrest anyone who doesn't pay the proposed 300 dollar premium and you got what's called
a failure to communicate
it's union driven and driven by the same welfare mentality that brought us the 40 year old grandmother scenario
now they are talking as thought they will be able to "draft"
medical personnel
and this is a sign of the union pressure on the entire healthcare system

I feel sorry for those of you who pay medical insurance premiums
someday you will get in a car accident and you won't have any response or the hospital wont be open
ToothPicks

Marcus Hook, PA

#32 Oct 16, 2009
stella007 wrote:
<quoted text>
Read a little more sweetie and educate yourself.
The insurance companies do this BECAUSE THEY CAN.
If you think that insurance companies (note that they are not the same as a health care provider) have your best interests at heart
you are badly mistaken.
Please, stella. They are cashing in now because they know obama care will destroy them latter. It's not right! I agree, that's why if we just fixed the problem instead of throwing the baby out with the bath water! We could have a streamline system.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#33 Oct 16, 2009
Eleanor wrote:
<quoted text>
Perhaps hospitals that provide free services to the undocumented should team up with I.C.E. and give the undocumented a free trip home (along with ANY and ALL undocumented in their household). That in itself may provide incentive for the undocumented to return to their homeland and for others not to come to this country in the first place.(also stop 'anchor baby' rip-offs)
The only problem with that is highly contagious diseases like T.B. are rather common among those coming across the border. Do you really want them too scared to go to the doctor, instead spreading TB to all the other kids in school?

Nothing good comes from turning hospitals into immigration enforcement centers. Find another way (i.e. employers, schools, etc)
ToothPicks

Marcus Hook, PA

#34 Oct 16, 2009
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>
The only problem with that is highly contagious diseases like T.B. are rather common among those coming across the border. Do you really want them too scared to go to the doctor, instead spreading TB to all the other kids in school?
Nothing good comes from turning hospitals into immigration enforcement centers. Find another way (i.e. employers, schools, etc)
Good point. Citizenship should be enforced anywhere and everywhere! The govt. now is trying to prevent even law enforcement from enforcing the law! The govt. Is not looking out for us at all !
community idiot

Palm Bay, FL

#35 Oct 16, 2009
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>
The only problem with that is highly contagious diseases like T.B. are rather common among those coming across the border. Do you really want them too scared to go to the doctor, instead spreading TB to all the other kids in school?
Nothing good comes from turning hospitals into immigration enforcement centers. Find another way (i.e. employers, schools, etc)
ya there is a host of communicable diseases
remember the green onion scare and hepatitis
all kinds of childhood diseases
the list goes on and on

problem is once something like that gets going
its too late to argue or enforce
definitely a homeland security issue
Hernia702

Las Vegas, NV

#36 Oct 16, 2009
At www.NoInsuranceSurgery.com offers free consulations and caters to the non-insured patients at fair rates!
Chylloh

United States

#37 Oct 16, 2009
Jeffery Wright wrote:
During the presidential campaign, Barack Obama made repeated trips to rust belt states like Michigan to assure workers that a vote for him was a vote for job security. When he reneged on that promise within three months of winning the election by making General Motors a ward of the state, auto workers were understandably vexed.
So what did President Obama do to quell the unrest?
He went back to Michigan and made a speech, explaining how it could have been worse.
"We saw 400,000 jobs lost in the auto industry in the year before this restructuring even began. I will not pretend the hard times are over. Difficult days lie ahead. More jobs will be lost. More plants will close. More dealerships will shut their doors, and so will many parts suppliers."
Then he said this:“I want you to know that what you’re doing is making a sacrifice for the next generation.”
ObamaCare: How Much Are You Willing to Sacrifice?
http://snipurl.com/sjvlo
Obama is not only making enemies in America but around the world.

Why would someone feel he can do this and not feel any consequenses for his actions?

It is more than just "the EGO has Landed" mentality.

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#40 Oct 16, 2009
stella007 wrote:
Of course prices are going up and why shouldn't they?
All the insurance companies are money handlers:
deciding who gets charged what,paying the doctors,clinics,labs and hospitals when they damn well please.
It sounds similar to the oil cartels.
But, Hey! These are capitalist American companies so it is ok. All in the name of making a buck off your back.
Can you spell A-N-T-I-T-R-U-S-T?
Can you spell "S_T_E_L_L_A 0_0_7 I_S A G_U_L_L_I_B_L_E D_U_M_B F_U_C_K ? I knew you could.

“Go away hypocrites!”

Since: Dec 08

minneapolis mn

#42 Oct 17, 2009
The laughing liberal wrote:
<quoted text>
Post your source link. Something smells "fishy"...like another 1/2 truth (aka lie).
No, you can Google it yourself, read the various sources and draw your own conclusions. With many different articles reporting how can you possibly blame it on the liberal media?

“Truth to Power!”

Since: Apr 07

Cordova, TN

#43 Oct 17, 2009
stella007 wrote:
<quoted text>
No, you can Google it yourself, read the various sources and draw your own conclusions. With many different articles reporting how can you possibly blame it on the liberal media?
ROFL! just as a thought! You made it Up!

“Go away hypocrites!”

Since: Dec 08

minneapolis mn

#45 Oct 17, 2009
The laughing liberal wrote:
<quoted text>
ROFL! just as a thought! You made it Up!
Are you really that lazy or afraid of the truth kicking you in the teeth?
Eleanor

Mundelein, IL

#46 Oct 19, 2009
inept obama wrote:
<quoted text>Most of them don't pay because they don't seek treatment. If there was free health care provided the hospitals would be swamped with new patients.
Well, the City of Chicago, through Stroger Hospital (formerly 'Crook' County, I mean Cook County) does provide free health care ... and you are correct it is SWAMPED. Interestingly enough, Chicago pays the HIGHEST sales tax in the country (over 10%). Everyone here ends up paying TWICE ... once for themselves in providing their own health insurance and once for all those 'freebies' through higher taxes. It is getting out of control.

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