New proposal to build ski resort in R...

New proposal to build ski resort in Riverhead

There are 71 comments on the Newsday story from Jun 18, 2007, titled New proposal to build ski resort in Riverhead. In it, Newsday reports that:

A Scottish businessman was back in Riverhead Town Hall Friday, offering to build an indoor ski mountain and family-friendly destination resort on 755 acres of former Grumman land in Calverton.

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JohnG

New York, NY

#23 Jun 19, 2007
This has to be one of the most ridiculous ideas Iíve ever heard. An indoor ski resort makes sense in a place like Dubai, or perhaps Orlando, where there are no real ski resorts within several hundred miles.

But, are skiers really going to fight the traffic jams on the LIE to go to a simulated ski resort when there are dozens of real ones within easy driving distance?
Calverton Dan

Chicago, IL

#24 Jun 19, 2007
If something like this ever gets approved I would hope for a Disc Golf Course. There are thousands of courses all over the US and the world yet we don't have one on L.I.

With all the open space available I'd hope one would be built at some point for this sport that is catching on around the world.
Common Sense

Pearl River, NY

#25 Jun 19, 2007
Just a bunch of dreamers and schemers.... and they try to make it sound as if they're doing all this because they "love" Riverhead and Long Island! Let's face it folks... no one puts $100 million into a project because they're "In Love".... they do it to make a profit... and that profit has a cost for those of us here on the Island.

Do you think for a moment that these folks are going to care about HOW we're going to deal with 1.5 Million visitors... the traffic... the calls for service... the drain on our water and sewage systems... do you think the area can handle that? Is a small reduction in your taxes worth ALL that? And no doubt that reduction would be shortlived once we have to start paying the true cost of this project!

Let's get real Riverhaed... rather than a grand scale project or plan that is designed for dragging more people out here... how about a plan that benefits those already here... the folks that are paying the taxes... we've already witnessed the mess that the use of the property has caused (ie Air Show).... how about a low impact use of the property... Horse trails, Bike trails, Golf Course, Parkland, Animal park, Ball fields... Perhaps the benefits of improving the quality of life of those of us out here will make us feel a bit better about the taxes, and it might even attract more folks and businesses to move here. There a saying KISS... Keep It Simple Stupid...

Since: Jun 07

Jackson, NJ

#26 Jun 19, 2007
Great Idea. Build it. Now.
Just a thought

Cresskill, NJ

#27 Jun 19, 2007
Has anyone considered what building a phony mountain will do to the environment long term?

What are they going to build it out of? Dirt? Sand? Garbage/landfill? Cement? Most mountains have a bedrock base.

Let's talk about how this phony mountain is going to stand up to nor'easters - the pounding rain, wind and snow that eastern Suffolk gets on a regular basis. You're going to have mudslides on this thing galore if it's not done right.

Sounds like a get-rich-quick con to me, with nobody thinking about the long term impact. They need to lose the whole mountain idea. This is about as stupid as Broadwater and for many of the same reasons. Leave what nature has provided alone. Don't second guess the planet to this degree or you are going to be in a world of hurt later on, and the con men who do NOT live here will be running away from the mess, counting their money and laughing.
dmr

Newark, NJ

#28 Jun 19, 2007
I don't like this idea. I think they should build a NASCAR racetrack. I would love to see Dale Jr. up close and personal.
I Have His Wallet

United States

#29 Jun 19, 2007
This is typical of the kinds of stupid ideas that happen just before the economy hits the skids and asfter real estate has passed it's peak. DON'T WORRY, THIS WILL NEVER HAPPEN!!!
Tom Egan

Winter Haven, FL

#30 Jun 19, 2007
Maybe Taubman will offer a similar plan for their Cerro Wire property in Syosset instead of the upscale mall.
glennb

Mattituck, NY

#31 Jun 19, 2007
isn't the traffic enough of a nightmare on the east end now??????????
glennb

Mattituck, NY

#32 Jun 19, 2007
i also agree withthe nascar track idea as the seasons are limited as well as the days.
wiw

United States

#34 Jun 19, 2007
It is an airport. It has been an airport for decades. If it is not continued as an airport, Long Islanders will pay the price for eternity, as LGA and JFK and even ISP become saturated.

Airports, like farms, are not capable of being recreated once they are gone, and their loss diminishes the quality of life for all concerned.

NOte that at least two of the four approaches to CCC are entirely over water or vacant land.

Good time to build the monorail down the center of the LIE as well.
wiw

United States

#35 Jun 19, 2007
Why should China, Japan and most of Europe be the only ones with sensible and appropriate transportation systems? Are we MIRED in stupidity (building new Islip terminal on the WRONG side of the airport to people could not transfer from LIRR to trains in one building) to the point where we are intent on destroying our environment totally?

Over a dozen airports have closed on Long Island since LI was the virtual cradle of aviation. They will not return. Their loss MUST result in overcrowding elsewhere. WHY IS THIS SO HARD FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND? WHY???
Fed up with the crooks

Pearl River, NY

#36 Jun 19, 2007
What's wrong with Long Islands only open space being left alone. If you think more housing or a casino lowers taxes you're ignorant of the facts- you then need sewers, water treatment plants, LIPA plants for more electric, more gas stations, etc. You also need more government to oversee it all (politicos love that). Welcome to LI 2020- all our kids do is go to the mall and gamble, yet our taxes are the same. Grumman had high paying jobs and left plenty of open space, and the local politicians taxed it out of existence. LEAVE US THE OPEN SPACE!
katie

Mount Sinai, NY

#37 Jun 19, 2007
have fun my fellow east enders, move while you still can, this island has gone shit!! thanks riverhead politicians, we can always count on loyalty to the people that vote you in or at least pay these nice high taxes to keep the air conditioning on in your offices!! why in gods name would theme parks and resorts be a good thing!! first riverhead needs to clean up riverhead and fix some damn roads and a million other things, damn greedy bastards
katie

Mount Sinai, NY

#38 Jun 19, 2007
Common Sense wrote:
Just a bunch of dreamers and schemers.... and they try to make it sound as if they're doing all this because they "love" Riverhead and Long Island! Let's face it folks... no one puts $100 million into a project because they're "In Love".... they do it to make a profit... and that profit has a cost for those of us here on the Island.
Do you think for a moment that these folks are going to care about HOW we're going to deal with 1.5 Million visitors... the traffic... the calls for service... the drain on our water and sewage systems... do you think the area can handle that? Is a small reduction in your taxes worth ALL that? And no doubt that reduction would be shortlived once we have to start paying the true cost of this project!
Let's get real Riverhaed... rather than a grand scale project or plan that is designed for dragging more people out here... how about a plan that benefits those already here... the folks that are paying the taxes... we've already witnessed the mess that the use of the property has caused (ie Air Show).... how about a low impact use of the property... Horse trails, Bike trails, Golf Course, Parkland, Animal park, Ball fields... Perhaps the benefits of improving the quality of life of those of us out here will make us feel a bit better about the taxes, and it might even attract more folks and businesses to move here. There a saying KISS... Keep It Simple Stupid...
are you kidding, they are not going to improve the tax situation one bit , in fact living in Wading river they are probably gonna jack em up again, and of course the traffic is gonna be horrific, so like if we are ever under attack or anything blows up at these places or goes terribly wrong i guess we are all just gonna....sit in traffic in our big "mommie" SUV's.
katie

Mount Sinai, NY

#39 Jun 19, 2007
wiw wrote:
Why should China, Japan and most of Europe be the only ones with sensible and appropriate transportation systems? Are we MIRED in stupidity (building new Islip terminal on the WRONG side of the airport to people could not transfer from LIRR to trains in one building) to the point where we are intent on destroying our environment totally?
Over a dozen airports have closed on Long Island since LI was the virtual cradle of aviation. They will not return. Their loss MUST result in overcrowding elsewhere. WHY IS THIS SO HARD FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND? WHY???
because americans don't want to give up thier hummers and mcmansions!! and never will its the american dream!!
katie

Mount Sinai, NY

#40 Jun 19, 2007
I Have His Wallet wrote:
This is typical of the kinds of stupid ideas that happen just before the economy hits the skids and asfter real estate has passed it's peak. DON'T WORRY, THIS WILL NEVER HAPPEN!!!
i hope you are right!! it really sucks when you pay $17,000 a year in taxes and they still can't fix a pot holed road and now all this craziness, greed is a terrible thing almost as bad as politicians
Ed Burke

Coram, NY

#41 Jun 19, 2007
Back before the 'Riverhead By-Pass',(aka county road #58) had any traffic lights at all to slow traffic that was using this route to avoid the stop and go of driving through the center of town, the Town Board allowed the building of a 'Billy Blake' discount store. How it was to be a wonderful addition to Riverhead was extolled at the time like every other mistake made in developing Riverhead. Anyone curious about this can still view the residual concrete block unlandscaped structure. It still exists having gone out of business as Billy Blake, then becoming Great Eastern, which also went belly up, and lastly when the Town made significant Tax giveaways to the publisher of the FREE advertising flyer 'Suffolk Life' in order to place it back in use, it is now labeled Suffolk Life and is perhaps the worst eyesore visible along CR 58. Even the rusting hulk of the original Billy Blake sign stands out alongside the traffic clogged road for all to appreciate.

I mention this because every one of these 'Improvements' to otherwise tree covered property becomes the taxpayers problem when the 'Get-Rich-Quick-Scheme' Kraps out, which is often inevitable. Why can't a bond to tear down these useless eyesores be a part of the deal ?

A 30 story toilet will be what the taxpayers inherit when this thing flops.
James

Bronx, NY

#42 Jun 19, 2007
They should build a giant housing project complex like the projects in brooklyn, they can call it The Hood of Riverhead. Then they should start landfilling between the north and south forks to make more land to build more housing on. More housing, more housing, MORE HOUSING!!!!!!!
ryan

Perth Amboy, NJ

#43 Jun 19, 2007
getting away from LI is half the reason I go Skiing

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