Neighbors cover their ears over E. Farmingdale sirens -- Emerge...

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Having lived across the street from an East Farmingdale Fire Department station house for about a quarter century, John Tighe has learned to cope with wailing sirens -- but not the Thunderbolt recently ... Full Story
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Former Vollie

AOL

#1 Jun 3, 2008
Oh you have GOT to be kidding me. And of course, OF COURSE, Newsday leaves this one open for comments.
super duper

New York, NY

#2 Jun 3, 2008
In this age of technology - can't they just sent out a text message? What are the pagers and squawk boxes for? Sheesh.
Cyrus

Glen Cove, NY

#3 Jun 3, 2008
Former Vollie wrote:
Oh you have GOT to be kidding me. And of course, OF COURSE, Newsday leaves this one open for comments.
Are you moaning because you don't want people to comment, or that Newsday doesn't open every article to comments?
New Ears

Middle Island, NY

#4 Jun 3, 2008
Why are those sirens still in use?

Fire Personnel respod to the Fire house 2-5 minutes before the siren even goes off because they carry PAGERS.

With todays technology there is No Need for them. The only thing they are actually good for in Lower Class Areas is to Wake up the Low-life at Noon when it goes off.
Bobby B

Farmingdale, NY

#5 Jun 3, 2008
This firehouse is in West Babylon? Why don't we get a quote from the West Babylon Fire Chief?
Plectron

Brooklyn, NY

#6 Jun 3, 2008
Most departments have done away with siren...it is good for the noon alert though.

Question: Where does the revenue go when YOUR FD collects rent money for a cell tower on your fire district property?
SmokEatinHero

Westbury, NY

#7 Jun 3, 2008
Oh no! Not a little noise!
Try feeling the searing heat of a wall of fire in your face.
They should be lining up to thank the brave VOLUNTEERS that risk death everyday to protect them, instead of complaining about a siren.
Nobody ever complained about being rescued from their burning house in the middle of the night.
I bet that they wouldn't even be able to survive our TRAINING!!
super duper

New York, NY

#8 Jun 3, 2008
SmokEatinHero wrote:
Oh no! Not a little noise!
Try feeling the searing heat of a wall of fire in your face.
They should be lining up to thank the brave VOLUNTEERS that risk death everyday to protect them, instead of complaining about a siren.
Nobody ever complained about being rescued from their burning house in the middle of the night.
I bet that they wouldn't even be able to survive our TRAINING!!
oh boy, another buffy volunteer fireman.

Thanks for your service, but you're not a "hero." If that's why you became a volly firefighter you should see a therapist.
wow

Patchogue, NY

#9 Jun 3, 2008
I like it the THUNDERBOLT cool name...
A Brother

Mastic, NY

#10 Jun 3, 2008
super duper wrote:
In this age of technology - can't they just sent out a text message? What are the pagers and squawk boxes for? Sheesh.
Text paging is not reliable. During busy periods, text pages are spooled on the system until the backlog is cleared. Dispatching of emergency calls needs realtime communication not a system with the possibility of a delay in delivery.
A Brother

Mastic, NY

#11 Jun 3, 2008
SmokEatinHero wrote:
Oh no! Not a little noise!
Try feeling the searing heat of a wall of fire in your face.
They should be lining up to thank the brave VOLUNTEERS that risk death everyday to protect them, instead of complaining about a siren.
Nobody ever complained about being rescued from their burning house in the middle of the night.
I bet that they wouldn't even be able to survive our TRAINING!!
Kid, do the brotherhood a favor and drop the 'hero' attitude. The heroes are those brothers who have gone "above and beyond." And those over in Iraq and Afganistan who take live fire to protect our way of life.

And the only handshake I need are those from a brother or the resident after we've done our job.

Quoting Tommy Glavin on "Rescue Me" - "But there ain't no medals on my chest, a**holes,'cause I ain't no hero. I'm a fireman. We're not in the business of making heroes here."
MCR

Brooklyn, NY

#12 Jun 3, 2008
Firemen and cops are mostly self-righteous idiots!

And the Thunderbolt siren is quite ridiculous - it is more than a 'little noise'- much like how 95% of you are more than a 'little fat'.

There are priority text-message services that can be employed.

Fish Billy!!!
resident near by

Brooklyn, NY

#13 Jun 3, 2008
ok i live near the Wellwood Fire house and yes the siren is loud, but if there is a emergency call during day and these vollies are outside in the pool,mowing there lawn etc,they might not have or hear there pager.so before you say the siren is a waste its not it works and for the record they did lower it.KEEP UP THE HARD WORK ALL YOU VOLLIES DO FOR US THANK YOU,
Death Race

Brooklyn, NY

#14 Jun 4, 2008
Why buy a house if you don't like what's near it?
Bangkok Bill

Bangkok, Thailand

#15 Jun 4, 2008
Sirens?Are you aware it is now 2008?

Since: Jun 07

Copiague, NY

#16 Jun 4, 2008
New Ears wrote:
Why are those sirens still in use?
Fire Personnel respod to the Fire house 2-5 minutes before the siren even goes off because they carry PAGERS.
With todays technology there is No Need for them. The only thing they are actually good for in Lower Class Areas is to Wake up the Low-life at Noon when it goes off.
Nooo, they don't get there two to five minutes before. The siren is sounded at the conclusiion of the announcement on the pager.

Today's technology is good enough for notification.

One reason for their continued use? ISO, the organization which controls the ratings for your homeowners insurance requires a secondary means of notification for structure fires. Shutting the sirens down affects your score, although doing so won't necessarily affect your rating unless it was borderline prior to shutting them down.

Another reason they are helpful? Firefighters are volunteers. They live much the same life as those complaining. They mow the lawn, run the snowblower in the winter and spend time out by the pool in the summer, you get the point. The pager on their waist isn't always effective or prudent in all situations.

This poor soul had the Thunderbolt installed midstream and does have a beef. We've used a Thunderbolt in my community since the sixties and what get's me is those that move in next to a firehouse and decide that the siren doesn't suit them.

Oh, and one note, Newsday fails to note in the article that The East Farmingdale FD has used the Thunderbolt in other locations for years. I believe maybe at the Conklin St. location also.

Since: Jun 07

Copiague, NY

#17 Jun 4, 2008
By the way, if you want to hear one

http://www.longislandfirealarm.com/Thunderbol...
East Farmingdale Resident

Bethpage, NY

#18 Jun 4, 2008
Ah the East Farmingdale Fire Department. That is a nice Fire House they are pictured in front of. What's that, Oh thats not the main house, just the replacement of of a two bay aux. station. Wow, Money must be no object.

This latest issue is shows how out of control this district is. Reviewing their website, there is no mention as to a vote, budget, building plans, Property Purchases. Hey what about the land purchased next to the station on Melville Rd. Oh Yes the new Aux. Station built to replace the same sized station. That makes three new facilities in less than 10 years. Who approved that.

Pagers, with all of these modern facilities, You can't contact your members via their Personal Cell Phone. I get the pleasure of hearing the Siren about 5 times a day. Please let us know when the next budget vote is.
Ex-Oak Beacher

United States

#19 Jun 4, 2008
super duper wrote:
In this age of technology - can't they just sent out a text message? What are the pagers and squawk boxes for? Sheesh.
The Soccer Moms prevented them from putting up the needed towers. Mommy could not get tinfoil helmets small enough to block the 0.00000000000923 millirads of radiation her little yard apes would be exposed to. Hence, you need to sit there and suffer through preventable noise. Sucks to be you
BOBBY

Bronx, NY

#20 Jun 4, 2008
SmokEatinHero wrote:
Oh no! Not a little noise!
Try feeling the searing heat of a wall of fire in your face.
They should be lining up to thank the brave VOLUNTEERS that risk death everyday to protect them, instead of complaining about a siren.
Nobody ever complained about being rescued from their burning house in the middle of the night.
I bet that they wouldn't even be able to survive our TRAINING!!
same old story, stop being a hero . a hero does his job and keeps his mouth closed.these folks have a wright to have peace and quite

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