Lisa

Elmont, NY

#769 Apr 5, 2014
Sue wrote:
Just a thought here....What if Rob has made contact with Ida, just to tell her he was OK, but he is NOT coming back.........Why Should we think Ida would tell LE or His Family Or HER FB Fans? If she keeps that to herself......Everyone Continues LOOKING for Rob.......If she Shares that info. Everyone Stops Looking........Any thoughts on this from the NORMAL, SELF-THINKERS on here???
Trolls Need not Respond....You NEVER have anything INTELLIGENT to add to a discussion anyway!!
Sue , I had thought that before also. He could of even left a note that she has not said ( maybe she is embarrassed ) and it goes against all her perfect family stories!
I mean it could be possible right? Sometimes I feel like the way she speaks on that page she is sending a message to him . He could be mortified himself at this hoopla and saying screw it , I'm not coming back. And if he is doing drugs he is prob not in his right mind, maybe making his decision to not come back easier on him.
Lisa

Elmont, NY

#770 Apr 5, 2014
And I don't mean he wants to leave his family to do drugs. I mean, maybe he left as an F.U. To her or maybe even a binge of sorts and it kind of went too far. Maybe the drug use makes the pain of being away from his family bearable so to speak. But now what's he to do ? Just walk through the door?....
Coming back may seem harder to him at this point than staying away! And if that is the case I hope he finds strength to do it.
Sue

Commack, NY

#771 Apr 5, 2014
Lisa wrote:
<quoted text>
Sue , I had thought that before also. He could of even left a note that she has not said ( maybe she is embarrassed ) and it goes against all her perfect family stories!
I mean it could be possible right? Sometimes I feel like the way she speaks on that page she is sending a message to him . He could be mortified himself at this hoopla and saying screw it , I'm not coming back. And if he is doing drugs he is prob not in his right mind, maybe making his decision to not come back easier on him.
I agree Lisa with the "perfect family thing". Had she just kept this quiet no one but close family would have known anything and there would have been no embarrassment.
Praying HIS family hears from him soon..........
Jeanne

Coram, NY

#772 Apr 6, 2014
Joan wrote:
Another question , I know deer park train station doesn't have cameras but have all other stations (going in both directions) been checked? If he got on the train ( possibly), he would of gotten off. Just a thought!
Deer Park Train Station does have at least one camera on the outside of and attached to the snack bar on the West side of the building. It faces in the direction of where Rob's car was parked; however, I don't know if the area in which Rob's car was found would have been within the camera's line of sight. The camera seems to be positioned to focus on the ATM or ticket booth and not out towards more distant parking areas. It was the only camera I ever saw, adding credence to the sad fact that despite the size of and the not so great area aspect, the train station did not appear to have security cameras. I don't know for sure if LE has footage; I don't know the turn around for the camera to record over that time period either. Not much has been said about what that camera may or may not have captured. Ida did say on one of the searches in July that LE was in the process of subpoenaing the footage. This is an ongoing investigation, so I wouldn't expect, nor is LE obligated to disclose certain things to the public. I do think that if they had found anything of value on any alleged footage, they might have a better idea on where to look for Rob. I hope and pray for Rob to be found safe.
Lisa

Elmont, NY

#773 Apr 6, 2014
So there could be possible footage of him at the train station?
Well if other stations are checked it could show where he got off . I mean if he took train all the way to Penn, he could of jumped on Amtrak and gone to another state . Just thought maybe it would all give an idea of where he could of been headed or where he ended up even!
Jeanne

Coram, NY

#774 Apr 6, 2014
I am not related to anyone involved. I worked for years in K9 SAR, and I work as amateur sleuth as a number of us here do is all. Although, I have grown to care deeply about this case and want very much to find Rob, I stand only in the distant shadows of Rob's loved ones. They are suffering, and it rips me up to know that.

I met Tom during a search at the train station and spoke with him briefly regarding Rob's drug issues. I hope Tom, that you don't mind me speaking freely as it is already out, and I believe it can only help people to know so that people know better where to look for him. I don't give a rat's arse that Rob has a drug problem except that knowing this may better help find him. I don't even know if you remember me. We were by the nasty area with the make-shift railroad tie, "seats' that were under the train station with used drug needles all around. I commented that I couldn't see Rob sitting there shooting up. And, you commented about needles and how Rob hated them. We had gone to that area because another searcher found a phone under those tracks in that area, and I/we wondered if it was remotely possible that it might have been a burner phone related to Rob. It was sooooo weathered that it was no doubt there for a very long time, and Rob had only been missing for about a month.

Tom was at all the searches I was on, and I recall seeing Christine there too. I think I read people fairly well, and I believe and have always believed that Tom cares very much about Rob. I have no doubt that Christine and Rob's mom love him very much as well.

I have no negative things to say about Ida. I do not personally know the full extent of what hell she may be experiencing. We have the opportunity here to put forth good suggestions and gather our heads together to best help find Rob. It saddens me to see that so much energy that could be expended in order to help find Rob is being put towards taking sides and fighting. We all know there is great controversy surrounding Rob's disappearance, especially regarding alleged facts in this case. But, I hope folks here can come together collectively to help find Rob. Isn't that what we all really want?

I posted a couple of times as, "Carol", and I am,'relay" on ws. My real name is Jeanne, and I was once was an admin on the fb page. I decided to be forthcoming after someone suggested we not hide behind false names.

PS. I handled the report regarding the teenage girl who reported she may have seen Rob on a train or at a train station. That very night I called the 2nd precinct in Huntington, NY where Rob's case is based out of. After researching for the proper police station where the young lady lived, I called them as well. I gave all info I could find on the young lady along with all relevant info about Rob to both LE's. I reported back to the fb page all of this, and if anyone were to search, I imagine it is all still there. I did not encourage people to contact the minor, well because she was a minor. Even if she was an adult, any plans to contact a possible witness should be done by LE first, and if amateur sleuths wish to do so it should be done professionally and be well planned. I can't tell you how many times well meaning sleuths all decide at once to take the bull by the horns which equates to harassment, resulting in decreased effectiveness. I understand why some wonder if certain leads were followed up or not. In this case I did.
Jeanne

Coram, NY

#775 Apr 6, 2014
Lisa,
I posted before that I doubt at this point there was any relevant footage because I think by now it might have been out. It is only my opinion though. The post never showed up. Maybe I should not have mentioned this :(. I don't mean to give anyone false hopes. Although, I have filed as a possible and put it on a shelf in my mind.
Wally cronkite

Ridgewood, NY

#776 Apr 6, 2014
News flash - he was just spotted with his brother Oscar.
Joan

United States

#777 Apr 6, 2014
Wally cronkite wrote:
News flash - he was just spotted with his brother Oscar.
Huh?
Bunny Hop

New York, NY

#778 Apr 6, 2014
Joan wrote:
<quoted text>
Huh?
That was someone's lame attempt at humor.
Lisa

Elmont, NY

#779 Apr 6, 2014
Jeanne wrote:
Lisa,
I posted before that I doubt at this point there was any relevant footage because I think by now it might have been out. It is only my opinion though. The post never showed up. Maybe I should not have mentioned this :(. I don't mean to give anyone false hopes. Although, I have filed as a possible and put it on a shelf in my mind.
Thanks Jeanne! I guess I wasn't taking into consideration that the tapes wouldn't even be available anymore. Just thought it was maybe a shot in the dark with other stations. Another stupid question , but has anybody ever spoken to conductors on the train and showed a pic? If he did have his bike or seemed somewhat agitated mAybe he would of stuck out in someone's mind? I personally know a conductor and she surprisingly remembers a lot of people.( I only know this because wherever we go, she recognized or talks to people , lol)
Jeanne

Coram, NY

#780 Apr 7, 2014
You are welcome Lisa, and your question is not stupid. I don't know if conductors were shown pictures. But, we posted flyers all over at the train station parking lot and in the surrounding area. We walked up to anyone and everyone in that area to help spread the word about Rob. Over time it seems the local cleaning crews remove flyers, and some of them succumbed to weather and so forth. But, a number of times volunteers have replaced them. I would have to believe that LE did speak with conductors and show them pictures. It would make no sense if they didn't.
Tom

Fort Worth, TX

#781 Apr 8, 2014
Jeanne thanks, I do remeber you and that search. Very honest of you to put your name out there. Just so you know they already know every single person that posts here too. By their real names. And by their real adresses too. That can be changed as well. Most of the facts people are arguing over have been know all along. we do know Rob depended on his phone as his phone book with all his important numbers to call. And he does not have it. But just like evryone of us here if we needed to make a call and were ready to make a call we know where to get the number. He would be just as capable. So kathy and Jason (I'll keep your secret identies secrete for you), when your report back (and again its very good that you do that) we are hoping Rob reaches out to either His mother, His best friend kevin and absoulutly ida as well, so we know he is ok. There are other people he might also reach out to.. We hope the Police are on that list. we hope some one will hear soon.

If you guys see him! tell him to call his FAMILY lets us know he is ok.
Charlotte

Mount Vernon, NY

#782 Apr 8, 2014
Tom wrote:
Jeanne thanks, I do remeber you and that search. Very honest of you to put your name out there. Just so you know they already know every single person that posts here too. By their real names. And by their real adresses too. That can be changed as well. Most of the facts people are arguing over have been know all along. we do know Rob depended on his phone as his phone book with all his important numbers to call. And he does not have it. But just like evryone of us here if we needed to make a call and were ready to make a call we know where to get the number. He would be just as capable. So kathy and Jason (I'll keep your secret identies secrete for you), when your report back (and again its very good that you do that) we are hoping Rob reaches out to either His mother, His best friend kevin and absoulutly ida as well, so we know he is ok. There are other people he might also reach out to.. We hope the Police are on that list. we hope some one will hear soon.
If you guys see him! tell him to call his FAMILY lets us know he is ok.
Thanks Tom. My hope is that Rob is safe and well.

snipped and quoted: "So kathy and Jason (I'll keep your secret identies secrete for you), when your report back (and again its very good that you do that)"

What does that mean for those of us wondering? Report back? To whom? For what?

Since: Mar 14

Pine Brook, NJ

#783 Apr 8, 2014
Charlotte wrote:
<quoted text>
Thanks Tom. My hope is that Rob is safe and well.
snipped and quoted: "So kathy and Jason (I'll keep your secret identies secrete for you), when your report back (and again its very good that you do that)"
What does that mean for those of us wondering? Report back? To whom? For what?
Kathy and Jason are admins on the FB group. I'm assuming they report back to family members what is being discussed here < which we knew>. It's a Punic board. No secret.

Since: Mar 14

Pine Brook, NJ

#784 Apr 8, 2014
Public board. Geez. LOL.
Charlotte

Mount Vernon, NY

#785 Apr 8, 2014
SassiLee wrote:
<quoted text>
Kathy and Jason are admins on the FB group. I'm assuming they report back to family members what is being discussed here < which we knew>. It's a Punic board. No secret.
It's no big secret, anyone can read here, no?
So why "report" back?

If they want, they can email no? Or yes?
Just sounds silly to me.

Let's "report" back to HQ..........

hahahahahhahaahah
Lisa

Elmont, NY

#786 Apr 8, 2014
Charlotte wrote:
<quoted text>
It's no big secret, anyone can read here, no?
So why "report" back?
If they want, they can email no? Or yes?
Just sounds silly to me.
Let's "report" back to HQ..........
hahahahahhahaahah
I don't want to put words in Toms mouth or assume, but I took it to mean they report back to Ida !
Jeanne

Coram, NY

#787 Apr 8, 2014
Tom wrote:
Jeanne thanks, I do remeber you and that search. Very honest of you to put your name out there. Just so you know they already know every single person that posts here too. By their real names. And by their real adresses too. That can be changed as well. Most of the facts people are arguing over have been know all along. we do know Rob depended on his phone as his phone book with all his important numbers to call. And he does not have it. But just like evryone of us here if we needed to make a call and were ready to make a call we know where to get the number. He would be just as capable. So kathy and Jason (I'll keep your secret identies secrete for you), when your report back (and again its very good that you do that) we are hoping Rob reaches out to either His mother, His best friend kevin and absoulutly ida as well, so we know he is ok. There are other people he might also reach out to.. We hope the Police are on that list. we hope some one will hear soon.
If you guys see him! tell him to call his FAMILY lets us know he is ok.
Thank you Tom. I have no doubt that LE has many more facts than the public, as they should. I am more interested in putting my efforts into effectively helping to find Rob. If I come up with any ideas I will post them here, and I will read here regularly for updates and to note any suggestions on what I can do to help.
Jeanne

Coram, NY

#788 Apr 8, 2014
SassiLee wrote:
Public board. Geez. LOL.
Hahaha. It could have been worse. lol

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