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Valerie

Hartford, WI

#1 Nov 21, 2011
This is interesting:

2121 n 15th ave,which is right beside the 15th ave adult bookstore,is supposed to be Village Motorcars,Inc,and also G&B Auto Sales,is also 2121 N 15th Ave Corp,which is in the entertainment business,private club open only on Wed's,alcohol,gambling,escorts ,and run by Howard Goldstein.

Now,2125 n 15th ave,which is the adult bookstore is also;Jb Food Beverage,Inc.,,is also run by Howard Goldstein,,,the two are linked together!

So, the adult bookstore and the private club are one in the same!

I wonder why the MPPD don't raid the Private club?

They are both industrial/manufacturing zoned,,,How do they get away with this?,,,who is getting paid under the table?

Remember,pictures are being taken of both places,,,public of course!
Truth Seeker

Ingleside, IL

#3 Nov 22, 2011
Sounds like a COUNTY zoning violation.
Good call.
Lets inform the County and have them investigate it.
promto

Chicago, IL

#4 Nov 22, 2011
Truth Seeker wrote:
Sounds like a COUNTY zoning violation.
Good call.
Lets inform the County and have them investigate it.
please do so. Then mommy can clean your keyboard
Truth Seeker

Ingleside, IL

#7 Nov 23, 2011
promto wrote:
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please do so. Then mommy can clean your keyboard
Yawn
ponis

Chicago, IL

#9 Nov 23, 2011
Truth Seeker wrote:
<quoted text>Yawn
you should probably date Valerie. Then if you have sex you can get mind off the devils bookstore.
Truth Seeker

Ingleside, IL

#11 Nov 25, 2011
ponis wrote:
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you should probably date Valerie. Then if you have sex you can get mind off the devils bookstore.
As usual when you can't defend what goes on at this bookstore you're reduced to off topic cheap insults.
Since you can't seem to focus the topic is about the bookstore not about Valerie or me.
Its about the illegal activities that go on there.
Its about the health issues that unfocused people like you can't grasp.
Its about known sex offenders living nearby which is a violation of parole.
Its about the local politicians and cops who are paid off to look the other way.
Its about bringing notice to county , state, and federal authorities to look into the money laundrering, the icky DNA left on the seats and floors, the multi businesses without proper licence to operate collectively at the same address.
And best of all its about getting the news media to once again go undercover and do a secret follow up story using the above angles.
So you how silly your comments are ?
You can't stop what we are doing. So keep smiling and looking around as you walk into the place its makes it easier for us to take your picture.
ponis

Chicago, IL

#12 Nov 25, 2011
Truth Seeker wrote:
<quoted text>As usual when you can't defend what goes on at this bookstore you're reduced to off topic cheap insults.
Since you can't seem to focus the topic is about the bookstore not about Valerie or me.
Its about the illegal activities that go on there.
Its about the health issues that unfocused people like you can't grasp.
Its about known sex offenders living nearby which is a violation of parole.
Its about the local politicians and cops who are paid off to look the other way.
Its about bringing notice to county , state, and federal authorities to look into the money laundrering, the icky DNA left on the seats and floors, the multi businesses without proper licence to operate collectively at the same address.
And best of all its about getting the news media to once again go undercover and do a secret follow up story using the above angles.
So you how silly your comments are ?
You can't stop what we are doing. So keep smiling and looking around as you walk into the place its makes it easier for us to take your picture.
Im silly for wasting my time talking to an asexual troll. You wouldnt know what to do with a woman. I bet you pick up a lot of women who like a one topic conversation.
Truth Seeker

Ingleside, IL

#13 Nov 26, 2011
since you're still out of focus on what is important i'll repeat it again for you.

ts about the illegal activities that go on there.
Its about the health issues that unfocused people like you can't grasp.
Its about known sex offenders living nearby which is a violation of parole.
Its about the local politicians and cops who are paid off to look the other way.
Its about bringing notice to county , state, and federal authorities to look into the money laundrering, the icky DNA left on the seats and floors, the multi businesses without proper licence to operate collectively at the same address.
And best of all its about getting the news media to once again go undercover and do a secret follow up story using the above angles.

And i'll keep on talking about this businesses until its shut down too.
Ponis

Melrose Park, IL

#14 Nov 26, 2011
So how does the bookstore affect you so totally? Is your wife going there because she can't get any from you?

Since: May 11

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#15 Nov 26, 2011
Truth Seeker wrote:
since you're still out of focus on what is important i'll repeat it again for you.
ts about the illegal activities that go on there.
Its about the health issues that unfocused people like you can't grasp.
Its about known sex offenders living nearby which is a violation of parole.
Its about the local politicians and cops who are paid off to look the other way.
Its about bringing notice to county , state, and federal authorities to look into the money laundrering, the icky DNA left on the seats and floors, the multi businesses without proper licence to operate collectively at the same address.
And best of all its about getting the news media to once again go undercover and do a secret follow up story using the above angles.
And i'll keep on talking about this businesses until its shut down too.
Don't hold your breath till then "Truth Seeker" they appear to have a get out of jail free card
goof

Maywood, IL

#16 Nov 26, 2011
Truth Seeker wrote:
since you're still out of focus on what is important i'll repeat it again for you.
ts about the illegal activities that go on there.
Its about the health issues that unfocused people like you can't grasp.
Its about known sex offenders living nearby which is a violation of parole.
Its about the local politicians and cops who are paid off to look the other way.
Its about bringing notice to county , state, and federal authorities to look into the money laundrering, the icky DNA left on the seats and floors, the multi businesses without proper licence to operate collectively at the same address.
And best of all its about getting the news media to once again go undercover and do a secret follow up story using the above angles.
And i'll keep on talking about this businesses until its shut down too.
omg your still on here. i have been off for two weeks now and your still complaining. Ive also noticed that you don't have any followers either. Dont you get the drift . nobody on here gives a shit about your complaints. i have also noticed your posts on other towns red light districts. you must either be a complete pervert wacko who did not get treated right at the bookstore or someone who has way to much time on there hands. as time goes by a moron will even know when something is a complete waste of time.
Truth Seeker

Ingleside, IL

#17 Nov 27, 2011
LOL out of focus again are you ?
Its about the bookstore.
And how we are getting better organized at taking your picture going in and out of the place.
Its about sending those pics to the secretary of state to match with known sex offenders.
Its about contacting health department and advising them to check for semen in the theater and play areas.
Its about contacting the feds about money laundering and numerous buisness listings.
Its about building code violations.
But heck if you think its about me or anyone else go ahead waste your time posting about that.
Its all you got.
Meanwhile we are just improving what we do best.
homey

Elmwood Park, IL

#18 Nov 27, 2011
what about the private club on fullerton and river road ???? called the moose!!
Valerie

La Grange, IL

#19 Nov 27, 2011
Not the same,dip-stick!

Homey,why don't you do some real research and look into these places,then come back and make some actual comments based on something besides ignorant statements that you feel make you look funny.
Nicki

Melrose Park, IL

#20 Dec 1, 2011
Hey Valerie and truthseeker I remember the good old days when we called ourselves the original village idiot.
Truth Seeker

Ingleside, IL

#21 Dec 2, 2011
You can call yourself anything you want makes no difference to me.
As i pointed out there seems to be more then one Nicki and both Valerie and i have had people trying to impersonate us.
But none of that matters.
You guys are just trying to deflect what is really happening at the bookstore.
No problem.
What is happening is cars and customers are being photgraphed.
Info on them are going to state and county levels of law enforcement.
Feds are getting info on the money laundering.
Health board is getting info on the activities going on.
Fox News and other media is getting ALL the info we can give them.
Politicians are getting ALL the info hopefully to help them in their elections based on increaing law enforcement.
So posers go ahead and act silly it doesn't change a thing.
research law justice

Maywood, IL

#22 Dec 2, 2011
it is illegal to video tape people and send them to police. You have no probable cause nor have no proof that anyone driving a car in or out committed a crime. That is inadmissible evidence. I am also sure what you are trying to do is highly illegal for the sake of recording on public grounds and also making libal statements about people who you have no reason to be watching. Please contact a lawyer before your ridiculous endeavors.I would have to say that no police or agency will conduct any investigation on people who are in and out of a legal establishment. You may say what you want but the truth of the matter is that this place that you speak of has never been charged with any wrongdoing, nor deemed a illegal business. Speculations and accusations about a place do not hold up in court . Self made sting operations and traps made for paying customers who by law have broken no infractions will only end you up in court with civil and crimal charges against yourself. Again just giving you a little advice about this matter.
Valerie

Milwaukee, WI

#23 Dec 2, 2011
The only thing that the police need is probable cause to enter the establishment in question.

Based on habits that have been witnessed by the public,these are admissible to the police/court system.

The illegal business practices in question are the zoning criteria for the property at 2121/2125 N 15Th Ave.The properties are zoned 300,industrial/manufacturing.F or the property owners to not know the goings-on at the businesses is not ignorance of the law.

These are not self made sting operations or traps,these are concerned citizens trying to help keep their neighborhoods safe.

Speculations,and accusations are being made by those who have actually entered and taken part in the endeavors that the businesses have offered to them.

Recording these people is pure speculation by those who have made statements on this forum.To my knowledge no one has proven that the actual recording of these people has gone on.Until you can prove that the "implied" recording goes on you do not have a "legal leg" to stand on.

If you need to know more about what has been reported about the properties in question you need to contact several agencies in the Chicago,IL area as well as Springfield,IL.It is up to these agencies to do whatever with-ever the information that has been presented to them.We just report what we have witnessed,and the public records that are accessible by all people via the freedom of information act.

You are correct that this establishment has never been charged in any wrong-doing,but that does not mean that they will not be charged in any criminal wrong-doing in the future.

The libel statements that you speak of are all based on public records.As far as the people that are coming and going from the business,we have been asked by many people to know and identify the cars and people that enter and leave the business,time and date by concerned citizens,and family members.

You must also be aware that there is more than one address on this forum that identifies themselves as Valerie,Nicki,Truth Seeker,etc.We have no idea who research law justice is either?!

And,yes we have retained legal council.
research law justice

Maywood, IL

#24 Dec 2, 2011
Civil justice to record customers who come and go and perform no illegal acts have no reason to be recorded and it is an invasion of privacy to record anyone who is not in or on private property without notice of sign at entrance and in clear view. Concerned people or not it is still against the law. my recommendation is to turn over your speculations to the authority and let them handle it. Take my advice if you want but you are just asking for trouble. Recording people is a thin line between right and wrong. I am not taking sides but i believe that area is for more safe of a place to be than out in the open like, Mannheim rd. , lake st , Ogden ave,. I believe actually all of these places should be hidden like this one.
Valerie

Milwaukee, WI

#25 Dec 2, 2011
As I stated in my blog to you:That is exactly what we have done.We have followed the law in all of our endeavors to help the people who have approached us to get rid of this problem that they are plagued with.The family members that have approached us about their spouse or boyfriend/girlfriend we have turned over to private detectives to answer their questions.The activities that go on in the bookstore and the private club have been brought to our attention by people that have been there and have witnessed such activities.

What it comes down to is who do you believe in these situations?

Second hand or third hand info is speculation at best!

We are trying to bring out enough information so that that would be enough for authorities to have probable cause.The local police,and politicians do not want to take a look,and when they do it seems that they want the establishment to remain open,thus asking the question Why?

That is why we have turned over all information to the agencies in Chicago,IL,and the people in Springfield,IL to let them see if they want to continue.

We have not,and will not threaten anyone,We just present the facts and let people decide.

As long as you have people that are willing to put themselves at risk,then these places will remain open.

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