Revised list for 15th ave. bookstore

Revised list for 15th ave. bookstore

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Village Idiot

Warrenville, IL

#1 Nov 30, 2008
Actually i added a 13th item. Hopefully it'll be an unlucky number for this perverted adult bookstore. It brings home the point we need NEW LAWS AT THE STATE LEVEL to really rid ourselves of this bookstore and others like it. See the new list below and IGNORE any comments that are off topic. Send this list to cops, politicians, friends, family, neighbors, schools, churches, senior centers, and local bsuinesses.

1 ) REMOVE THE DOORS OFF THE BOOTHS AND PRIVATE ROOMS. This idea works great. It allows the police to look inside the booth for sexual activities.

2 ) REPLACE THE WALLS IN BOOTHS THAT HAD GLORYHOLES. A gloryhole is a hole in the booth that allows a penis to enter the next booth. This allows for anonymous unprotected sex between strangers. This is how the bookstore has been spreading VD and AIDS in the community. New walls will eliminate the gloryholes once and for all.

3 ) CHANGE THE HOURS THEY CAN BE OPENED. Close this store between 10pm-5am every day and it’ll help dry up their business.

4 ) CLOSE THE STORE ON SUNDAY Any full day the store is close hurts them. What better day then the day of worship to close them down.

5 ) NO MORE STREET PARKING When the parking lot gets full they start parking on the street. This should be for trucks only. Lets limit this street for business trucks only.

6 ) ENFORCE MAX LIMIT ON PARKING LOT. Too often they fit more cars in their lot then it legally should hold.

7 ) ENFORCE NO DRINKS OR FOOD. They don’t have a license to serve food and drinks. Yet at every private party and Monday night football party there are food and drinks. This alone should allow the cops a walk inside the place.

8 ) REVOKE THEIR VENDING LICENSE Since they continue to violate the no food or drink laws then that’s reason enough to revoke the vending license.

9 ) DO NOT ISSUE A GENTLEMAN’S CLUB LICENSE OR ANY OTHER TYPE OF LICENSE. This is a major point. They are looking into turning the place into a gentleman’s club in an attempt to avoid the police. Swinger clubs are growing because they are very hard to get rid of. They are also hard to police. Lets NOT allow this place to change their license.

10 ) DO NOT RENEW THEIR BOOKSTORE LICENSE There’s no law that says Melrose Park must renew any license. I’m not sure how often they must renew their license but I do know there is a time limit on it. If they can’t renew or acquire a different type of license then they will automatically go out of business. Lets push the village officials on these license issues.

11 ) INSPECTIONS Because of their violations on food, parking, holes in the walls, etc they warrant and increase on various inspection. Lets demand an increase on Fire Inspections, Food Inspections, Building Inspections, Street Inspections, etc.

12 ) VD & HIV/AIDS TESTING. There’s a group that does free testing. [email protected] They have offered to come in and test the customers at this bookstore. But the bookstore owner has refused !! The reason for the refusal is obvious. There is HIV/AIDS at this place.

13 ) CHANGE STATE ZONING LAWS FOR ADULT BUSINESSES. We need laws placing adult businesses out of cities and towns and into unincorporated areas. The area 15th ave. Bookstore is in was zoned for manufacturing businesses not adult bookstores.
village moron

Chicago, IL

#2 Nov 30, 2008
i wonder if 'adult bookstore' has a specific language in the state laws about where it can operate. does anyone know?
Village Idiot

United States

#3 Nov 30, 2008
http://www.meetingthesinlaws.com/category/adu...
link above might give you some ideas.
I think a major way to go would be in zoning laws. If we could get a state level politician interested enough to introduce a law restricting adult bookstores into unincorporated areas we could win back our town and a few others too. Cops are useless. They don't even want to go inside once let alone on a regular basis. I grew up in chicago i know that cops are allowed to go inside any adult bookstore. Heck they can go into any business. Department store, shopping malls, anywhere the public is allowed to go they can too.
village moron

Chicago, IL

#4 Nov 30, 2008
yes they can. premise checks are common and i know they can check for business licenses.
village moron

Chicago, IL

#5 Nov 30, 2008
Public Act 0950047
HB0286 Enrolled LRB095 04127 HLH 24165 b
AN ACT concerning local government.
Be it enacted by the People of the State of Illinois,
represented in the General Assembly:
Section 5. The Illinois Municipal Code is amended by
changing Section 11-5-1.5 as follows:
(65 ILCS 5/11-5-1.5)
Sec. 11-5-1.5. Adult entertainment facility. It is
prohibited within a municipality to locate an adult
entertainment facility within 1,000 feet of the property
boundaries of any school, day care center, cemetery, public
park, forest preserve, public housing, and place of religious
worship.
For the purposes of this Section, "adult entertainment
facility" means (i) a striptease club or pornographic movie
theatre whose business is the commercial sale, dissemination,
or distribution of sexually explicit material, shows, or other
exhibitions or (ii) an adult bookstore or adult video store in
which 25% or more of its stock-in-trade, books, magazines, and
films for sale, exhibition, or viewing on-premises are sexually
explicit material whose primary business is the commercial
sale, dissemination, or distribution of sexually explicit
material, shows, or other exhibitions.
(Source: P.A. 90-394, eff. 1-1-98; 90-634, eff. 7-24-98.)
i found this but am not sure if anything mentioned is within 1000 feet. ill keep digging
Village Idiot

United States

#6 Nov 30, 2008
1000 feet is nothing. That's about a 4 block radius.
I doubt there's much in that short of distance. A better bet would be to force in a new law requiring all such businesses be in an unincorporated areas and not in the center of a town. Still we'll have to see what does fall within those 1000 ft.
Village Idiot

United States

#7 Nov 30, 2008
There are 2 schools very close by. Maybe within 1000ft ? I've just e-mailed them both. Here is the schools and an e-mail address to write to them yourself. If more people write to them the better our chances we can use the 1000ft law to close down this bookstore.

Reading Is Fundamental in Chicago‎
[email protected]
[email protected]

Rhodes Elementary School
[email protected]>, [email protected]

Triton College is close by too. As is Kiddieland. Maybe those 2 arenot all within 1000ft. But darn they are close by. Too close for an adult bookstore with this huge a following. This bookstore is in the heart of a town, not some backroad in the middle of nowhere. We should be able to close this place.
Please write to those schools at the top of this post. Don't let my e-mail be their only e-mail. We can use their help. They can use our help too.
Village Idiot

United States

#9 Dec 1, 2008
Part of the reason of why i'm successful at obtaining info on this bookstore is my identity is still unknown to the members of the bookstore and their various forum groups. Also there is nothing to gain from being at a biweekly meeting. The way to achieve our goal is to put pressure on the mayor, village board, and the police through a higher level. That's why i recommend taking this to a county/state level. New laws and then enforcing them is the sure way. Until then enforcing current zoning laws might do it.
Village Idiot

United States

#10 Dec 2, 2008
Village Moron my friend thanks for the Illinois Municipal Code. I looked it up ( see below ) its actually says ONE MILE is the radius outside the City of Chicago and still within Cook County. There's a lot of schools, churches, day care center, etc within that one mile radius. We need to start contacting them and explaining it to them. Also we need to contact the politicians who sponsored and wrote this bill. I'm sure they'll want to help close down this bookstore too. Things are looking up.
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/billstatus.as...
ABOVE IS LINK TO THE FULL BILL explaining the one mile part.
http://www.ilga.gov/house/rep.asp...
http://www.ilga.gov/senate/senator.asp...
ABOVE IS THE LINK TO THE 2 POLITICIANS who wrote & chaired the bill. They may help us. I'm going to write to them please do the same.
Also the first link has all the names of those involved. Lets contact all of them.
IGNORE the jerks who will write against us. They want to take us off topic. Don't allow it. We're on target by posting the info to fight this bookstore. No jerk can stop that.
Village Idiot

United States

#11 Dec 2, 2008
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/fulltext...
MOST DIRECT LINK TO WHERE IT SAYS THE RADIUS IS ONE MILE . First paragraph -- Last sentence.
ghetto fab

United States

#12 Dec 2, 2008
which book store? is that the one after Bloomingdale? By the factories?
Village Idiot

Wayne, IL

#14 Dec 3, 2008
They are planning to have a couple of hookers on friday night and sat night. Contact the police and demand they pay this place a visit. If you do decide to take pics of the customers going in and out make sure you get a picture of their license plates too. Check their face pictures against the IL sex offender registry. If you get a match send it to the cops along with the license plate number. But be careful. These guys are criminals and are dangerous. Do this as a group. Keep a cell phone handy. First sign of trouble dial 911. Don't provoke them just take pictures then leave. Register sex offender are prohibited from going to adult bookstores. If we can catch one there it can be grounds to shut down this bookstore. Lets use every idea and means possible to pressure this place to close.
Jake

Naperville, IL

#15 Dec 3, 2008
Village Idiot wrote:
They are planning to have a couple of hookers on friday night and sat night. Contact the police and demand they pay this place a visit. If you do decide to take pics of the customers going in and out make sure you get a picture of their license plates too. Check their face pictures against the IL sex offender registry. If you get a match send it to the cops along with the license plate number. But be careful. These guys are criminals and are dangerous. Do this as a group. Keep a cell phone handy. First sign of trouble dial 911. Don't provoke them just take pictures then leave. Register sex offender are prohibited from going to adult bookstores. If we can catch one there it can be grounds to shut down this bookstore. Lets use every idea and means possible to pressure this place to close.
An absolutely insane idea.
Village Idiot

Wayne, IL

#16 Dec 3, 2008
Do a google map search on the address of this bookstore then type in Schools, churches, daycare centers, etc. By IL law this bookstore must be a mile away. You'll find a number of these places well under a mile. Contact them and let them know about this bookstore. We can use their help in a petition to force a closure on this bookstore. Lets start up a petition to send to the state lawmakers.
This bookstore is already feeling the heat. Two of their favorite prostitutes have moved their parties to a private location. We are making a difference.
village moron

Chicago, IL

#17 Dec 3, 2008
Village Idiot wrote:
http://www.ilga.gov/legislatio n/ilcs/fulltext.asp?DocName=00 6500050K11-5-1.5
MOST DIRECT LINK TO WHERE IT SAYS THE RADIUS IS ONE MILE . First paragraph -- Last sentence.
There is definitely a school within 1 mile. I have a few neighbors writing letters too. Some of them were not even aware of the place until I told them. Let's keep plugging along, we have to hit a nerve somewhere where someone will help us.
Village Idiot

Wayne, IL

#18 Dec 3, 2008
It was either genius or just dumb luck on the bookstore's part locating it on a manufacturing dead end street. Had they just been a run of the mill bookstore they probably would never get noticed. But they have thrown some wild parties. One party had almost 400 people attending. Cars were lined down the street. So word is now getting out just what a mecca for perverts this place really is. The more letters that get written the more it can't be ignored by politicians and police. Sooner or later they will have to make a raid on this place. Be sure to give your neighbors and friends my 13 lists of ideas. Complaints do work. And a list of solutions will help along with the written complaints.
villiage LE

West Bend, WI

#19 Dec 5, 2008
Village Idiot wrote:
It was either genius or just dumb luck on the bookstore's part locating it on a manufacturing dead end street. Had they just been a run of the mill bookstore they probably would never get noticed. But they have thrown some wild parties. One party had almost 400 people attending. Cars were lined down the street. So word is now getting out just what a mecca for perverts this place really is. The more letters that get written the more it can't be ignored by politicians and police. Sooner or later they will have to make a raid on this place. Be sure to give your neighbors and friends my 13 lists of ideas. Complaints do work. And a list of solutions will help along with the written complaints.
You two take the cake and don't think they havent figured out who you are already, hell I know who you are especially Villiage Idiot and not because im LE but because I do monitor the posts on several ygroups as well as the usasexguide. A post already went out warning the groups about what your posting you to are truly "Idiot" & Moron" lol.
Village Idiot

Palatine, IL

#20 Dec 5, 2008
I encourage everyone interested in bringing down this bookstore and others like it to visit the forums and ygroups dedicated to them. The more we learn about the illegal activities, the more we can document it for LE. Some of these forums can be visited without even joining. Keep in mind this is just a one tool for gathering info. Our real success will come from getting involved with the politicians and LE. Here are some tips to use in getting into the groups and staying safe.
1 ) use a disposable screen name for only this purpose. Most net servers give you 8 SN.
2 ) create a profile that is totally NOT you. Wrong age, wrong location, wrong everything.
If you can submit to them a pic of a dead person.
Impersonation is a serious matter but a dead relative who don't look like you won't mind much.
3 ) post now and then and show interest. Gee sure would like to go to the huge party but darn got family visiting.
4 ) vote in their polls but try and vote with majority. DON'T stand out. I love it when others stand out. They get blamed instead of me.
5 ) don't argue with anyone or take a side to any debatable issues. Steer clear of issues. Your there to gather info so try not to get caught.
6 ) first sign of trouble or getting caught just leave the ygroup or forum. Then rejoin under another SN or if you can spare it have two totally different SN already in there.
I use several myself and one of them is a very popular fun likable guy. The last guy any of them would suspect. If you check back through my messages you'll find ygroups and other forums i belong to.
But there are lots of them out there. Can't give away all my secrets here. The best part is they need the groups to keep in touch and to advertise when they are going to the bookstore. We don't need it. Its just a tool for us. Now that we are growing in numbers and have the attention of politicians & LE that is our main focus. Lets inspire and work with them to close this place down. New state laws will keep them out too.
Common sense

Lyons, IL

#21 Dec 5, 2008
Why do you have such a problem with adult places? No children are allowed in, and what adults want to do is their own business. From my personal experience, it is people like you here who make the most noise are the ones committing vile acts behind closed doors and you shine a light somewhere else to take it off you.

These are not the places you find sex offenders; you usually find them in forums on the internet, like this one. Therefore, you goofs need to get a life and quit worrying about other people. We just want to live our lives with hassle from goofs like you people. If you are looking for real sex offenders go to your local church, or for some of you it is probably your bathroom mirror.
Village Idiot

Palatine, IL

#22 Dec 5, 2008
ok the good news is i've mailed off my letters to the 13 state politicians who wrote the IL laws on adult bookstores.( see earlier posts for this lists of politicians )i'll post the list again later. These are the politicians who really care and want to make the changes we need. And its only 13 state level to mail out. My letter contained ONE page all about this bookstore and why we need additional laws to close them down, ONE page of local police and politicians working on this matter for them to connect with for updates, and ONE page of ideas to add in the news laws such as removing doors on booths. Its already been done in Peoria, IL. We are moving forward !!

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