At St. Paul 'wet house,' liquor can b...

At St. Paul 'wet house,' liquor can be their life -- and death

There are 420 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Dec 4, 2010, titled At St. Paul 'wet house,' liquor can be their life -- and death. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

Marion Hagerman appreciates your concern. But it's OK to give up on him, he says.

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Informed

Saint Paul, MN

#446 Apr 10, 2011
Nick wrote:
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Many get both.
All are only allowed 89.00. The rest goes to housing costs
Informed

Saint Paul, MN

#447 Apr 10, 2011
Nick wrote:
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Many get both.
It works this way. 98 percent recieve straight GRH funding through Ramsey County. The reamaning 1 percent are over 65 and recieve Social Security that they have worked for during their lifetime and conributed to. The other 1 percent have a verifiable disability or mental illness and recieve SSI or SSDI. All of those recieving Social Security, SSI or SSDI contribute all but $89.00 to their housing costs. The rest of the housing costs are picked up by Ramsey County GRH
bobxray

Saint Paul, MN

#449 Apr 15, 2011
Why does this story always come back?
The Situation

Saint Paul, MN

#450 Apr 15, 2011
Interesting article, but no mention of the "Mark Dayton Suite" located there.

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Since: Dec 10

Forest Lake, MN

#451 Apr 16, 2011
The Situation wrote:
Interesting article, but no mention of the "Mark Dayton Suite" located there.
I think he bunks with Senator Metzen!
Anon

Waterlooville, UK

#452 Apr 21, 2011
Interesting read
alan lismore

Sydney, Australia

#453 May 1, 2011
even using the sociological imagination i cant immediately make my mind up on this one.
Ladilulu is not a lady

Minneapolis, MN

#454 May 1, 2011
Informed wrote:
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All are only allowed 89.00. The rest goes to housing costs
'The rest' and what would that be.
More than the $89 they get for booze money.
The fact is tax payers are paying for this whole debacle.
INS

Saint Paul, MN

#455 May 2, 2011
Ladilulu is not a lady wrote:
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'The rest' and what would that be.
More than the $89 they get for booze money.
The fact is tax payers are paying for this whole debacle.
Who realy cares about 60 guys drinking beer.I would rather pay for this than have my tax dollars go to help illegal immigrants get free health care and public education
Clint JCL

Alexandria, VA

#456 May 6, 2011
How realistic. It is completely true that some people are beyond hope and beyond treatment.(One has only to look at all the people who die in mental institutions, never allowed to be free, to know this as fact.)

This is harm reduction at its finest - and at its saddest.

And still, the moralists crusade against things like this.
Nan

Waupaca, WI

#457 May 7, 2011
I think this is a great idea. I thought about it years ago when trying to figure out a way to help my alcoholic brother. If we can take the stigma away from drinking at this level, maybe, some people can accept and get past it.
Nan

Waupaca, WI

#458 May 7, 2011
When families lived together, the drunk uncle had a place. Now, that we have learned to get away from sick family members, we are all isolated.
betty

Fort Dodge, IA

#459 May 8, 2011
stupid.stupid.stupid...
betty

Fort Dodge, IA

#460 May 8, 2011
stupid stupid stupid
Doug CT

Boston, MA

#461 May 9, 2011
Interesting article. Certainly brings up a lot of questions. I, for one, believe that some people are beyond help and this model is an effective method of harm reduction. Not only is it cost effective, but it's a lot kinder than leaving people out on the street to rot. I bet it gets pretty cold in St. Paul too...
Do they give them food a

Rhinelander, WI

#462 May 9, 2011
Just wondering if they are given food in these wethouses
lisa

Sicklerville, NJ

#463 May 11, 2011
nosake wrote:
It's kind of like the Humane Society. More than likely, unwanted animals are going to be euthanized but it's better than getting killed on the highway. As a recovering alcoholic myself, I know very well that sobriety is a gift of grace. why me and not them, I haven't a clue. It's humbling.
bless you!
Bob

Jacksonville, NC

#464 May 12, 2011
The so called wet house is a slow and painful death. The people that operate this place should be held accountable for allowing these people to consume until death.
AntiMelting

New Richmond, WI

#465 May 12, 2011
bobxray wrote:
Why does this story always come back?
Handouts are a never ending cycle.
Jody S

Peekskill, NY

#466 May 24, 2011
There's a whole other side to the story, and that is the family. The family, children, friends of those who suffer from the disease of alcoholism. Who suffer a life of despair because they love one of the unfortunates who will never enjoy sobriety. Al-Anon Family Groups and Alateen are spiritual programs for the adults and children of the unfortunates. These programs show us how to love them, without being held hostage by them. 888-4AL-ANON

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