Detective: Woman dies after months on...

Detective: Woman dies after months on floor

There are 26 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Feb 11, 2009, titled Detective: Woman dies after months on floor. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

A 73-year-old woman was found dead on her bedroom floor after she apparently spent weeks unable to get up while her 82-year-old husband fed and cleaned her but did not summon help, authorities said.

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america me

Saint Paul, MN

#1 Feb 11, 2009
wtf!?!

old people.....crazy.
human too

United States

#2 Feb 11, 2009
He may have a bit of dementia. Perhaps they both did. He claimed his wife told him she didn't want any help. I have worked with elderly people, and have seen this kind of fierce independence. But even if that's true, there are times when you summon help, even over their objections. She apparently lay on the floor for TWELVE WEEKS. That's a horrible way to die.
Ms V

Saint Paul, MN

#4 Feb 11, 2009
I'm guessing he probably thought if he called someone they'd both get put in a home and lose their independence. Either that, or she would and he doesn't have the money to pay for it. Not making excuses, just saying what a lot of the older folks think and how that thinking dictates their actions.
MadeInAmerica

Saint Paul, MN

#5 Feb 11, 2009
And nobody outside of the hubby to check on them. No kids, no caring neighbors... nobody.
The Rad Rethuglican

Saint Paul, MN

#6 Feb 11, 2009
MadeInAmerica wrote:
And nobody outside of the hubby to check on them. No kids, no caring neighbors... nobody.
Nope. No one. The professionals who would have checked on her were all laid off so we could spend more blood and treasure in Iraq. Yup, this tragedy was MadeInAmerica all right. Congratulations!
c-man

Saint Paul, MN

#7 Feb 11, 2009
The Rad Rethuglican wrote:
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Nope. No one. The professionals who would have checked on her were all laid off so we could spend more blood and treasure in Iraq. Yup, this tragedy was MadeInAmerica all right. Congratulations!
Typical......personal responsibility by family or friends is just replaced by your "Professional govt. employee's". Keep wavin that flag of "government can supply all we need" attitude. It get's you stories exactly like this one.
The Rad Rethuglican

Saint Paul, MN

#8 Feb 11, 2009
c-man wrote:
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Typical......personal responsibility by family or friends is just replaced by your "Professional govt. employee's". Keep wavin that flag of "government can supply all we need" attitude. It get's you stories exactly like this one.
You are absolutely right. Her "family or friends" really came through for her, didn't they? I'm sure she'd thank you for your attitude and answers ... if she could.
c-man

Saint Paul, MN

#9 Feb 11, 2009
The Rad Rethuglican wrote:
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You are absolutely right. Her "family or friends" really came through for her, didn't they? I'm sure she'd thank you for your attitude and answers ... if she could.
Thanks for making my point ......
RAD is mad

Saint Paul, MN

#10 Feb 11, 2009
The Rad Rethuglican wrote:
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Nope. No one. The professionals who would have checked on her were all laid off so we could spend more blood and treasure in Iraq. Yup, this tragedy was MadeInAmerica all right. Congratulations!
Obama has lots of new programs that will fix this and everything else. Just keep saying, "Big government will fix it... big government will fix it"

“Jaywalking”

Since: Oct 08

Minneapolis, MN

#11 Feb 11, 2009
human too wrote:
He may have a bit of dementia. Perhaps they both did. He claimed his wife told him she didn't want any help. I have worked with elderly people, and have seen this kind of fierce independence. But even if that's true, there are times when you summon help, even over their objections. She apparently lay on the floor for TWELVE WEEKS. That's a horrible way to die.
It is a horrible way to die if you are someone on the outside looking in (example, we are reading her story).

When we, as a compassionate people, see a death of this sort, we think of the suffering she went through.

If she was widowed and died after 12 weeks on the floor, this story would have not have made this forum.

If she was widowed and died after 12 weeks on the floor, this story would have not have made this forum.

If she was married (as the story indicates) and died after 12 weeks on the floor, there would be, and is outrage, blaming the husband for causing the death by inaction.

Since she is dead, it does not matter to her how she died or how long it took.

When I get to that age, I pray my spouse will honor my wishes and let me die the way I choose.

That is, if she does not kill me earlier.
Just wondering

Saint Paul, MN

#12 Feb 11, 2009
12 weeks ???not sure about that. he had to pay bills, go get some grub, etc. What about the church ? so many in our country are such strong church folks if they were why did the pastor not come out once in a while ?( they usually do visit the ones who give money ) So maybe these two had very little money to live. Maybe she wanted to die at home. Maybe she had in her life someplace had to fight for freedom and did not want to give it up.
Let the guy go. How come that daughter did not insist on talking to her mother ?
Remember we can refuse any and all medical help.
Some do that based on church some on pocket book money.
The Rad Rethuglican

Saint Paul, MN

#13 Feb 11, 2009
Just wondering wrote:
12 weeks ???not sure about that. he had to pay bills, go get some grub, etc. What about the church ? so many in our country are such strong church folks if they were why did the pastor not come out once in a while ?( they usually do visit the ones who give money ) So maybe these two had very little money to live. Maybe she wanted to die at home. Maybe she had in her life someplace had to fight for freedom and did not want to give it up.
Let the guy go. How come that daughter did not insist on talking to her mother ?
Remember we can refuse any and all medical help.
Some do that based on church some on pocket book money.
On one hand, you bring up some relatively valid questions. But I hope that in no way you suggested that the poor woman would have chosen to spend her last 12 weeks on this earth lying on the floor, dying, not being able to get up. No friggin' way she would have chosen that unless there was several things very very wrong going on. And there's no way, we, as a society, did not fail her & her husband.
Drunkoncouch

Minneapolis, MN

#14 Feb 11, 2009
My grandma has a button she wears like a watch for these situations. "Help, I've fallen and I can't get up". The hubby could have had one of these delivered in a week. Then she could have summoned her own help if she wanted.
The Rad Rethuglican

Saint Paul, MN

#15 Feb 11, 2009
Drunkoncouch wrote:
My grandma has a button she wears like a watch for these situations. "Help, I've fallen and I can't get up". The hubby could have had one of these delivered in a week. Then she could have summoned her own help if she wanted.
I hear that when you're lying on the floor and can't get up, your family just figures it's the weekend. You'll have your own button soon and it'll say, "Help I've fallen and can't get up. grab me a beer."

Since: Nov 08

Moose Lake Mn

#16 Feb 11, 2009
The Rad Rethuglican wrote:
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Nope. No one. The professionals who would have checked on her were all laid off so we could spend more blood and treasure in Iraq. Yup, this tragedy was MadeInAmerica all right. Congratulations!
You are just a basement livin troll. One can only hope you fall soon and can't ever get to your key board again you flippin troll.
Drunkoncouch

Minneapolis, MN

#17 Feb 11, 2009
The Rad Rethuglican wrote:
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I hear that when you're lying on the floor and can't get up, your family just figures it's the weekend. You'll have your own button soon and it'll say, "Help I've fallen and can't get up. grab me a beer."
Yeah, I usually get up on my own on after only a couple days.
So What

Eau Claire, WI

#18 Feb 11, 2009
He could have called for help right away, then she would have been mistreated by absolute strangers at a state licensed nursing home and ey would have been charged about $6000.00 a month for the abuse.
The Rad Rethuglican

Saint Paul, MN

#19 Feb 12, 2009
NorthernLife wrote:
<quoted text>You are just a basement livin troll. One can only hope you fall soon and can't ever get to your key board again you flippin troll.
You're just angry because that was your mom in that story. Now your friends know the truth: You're just like your dad. That must hurt. Have a nice NorthurnLife, Paco.
Ms Jones

Minneapolis, MN

#20 Feb 12, 2009
The Rad Rethuglican wrote:
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You're just angry because that was your mom in that story. Now your friends know the truth: You're just like your dad. That must hurt. Have a nice NorthurnLife, Paco.
You are so juvenile.
The Rad Rethuglican

Saint Paul, MN

#21 Feb 12, 2009
Ms Jones wrote:
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You are so juvenile.
And this was mature?:

NorthernLife wrote:
<quoted text>You are just a basement livin troll. One can only hope you fall soon and can't ever get to your key board again you flippin troll.

Typical right wing critic. You can dish it out, but can't take it. Too bad.

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