Oregon bus driver suspended for Confederate flag

An Oregon school bus driver has been suspended for refusing to remove a Confederate flag from his personal vehicle. Full Story
Black Buck

Saint Paul, MN

#21 Mar 6, 2011
jan from NC wrote:
Really? I am from NC and that flag means heritage to me, nothing else. Wake up people. That is like a slap in the face to all OUR vets. We love the USA, but also owe a debt to our Southern forfathers, who gave their lives and homes for the cause. Not the cause of slavery, but for states rights. Slavery was the scapegoat for the War between the States. Heritage, not hate, that is what my Confedrate flag stand for.
The Confederates weren't the only ones who gave their lives in an effort to fight the U.S. military; there have been Red Coats, German troops, Korean troops, NVA troops, and Taliban fighters who have done the same.

Do we owe them a "debt" as well?
usmcsniper1

Escalon, CA

#25 Mar 7, 2011
It is called freedom of speech and expression. You may not like their message, so what!

Since: Jan 09

United States of America

#26 Mar 7, 2011
What's next, the school decides if he can belong to a certain organization, a certain church, a club? This isn't being displayed on the schoolbus, it is on his personal vehicle, parked in a parking lot. I hope the case goes before a judge, who has common sense.
black betty

Eau Claire, WI

#27 Mar 7, 2011
jan from NC wrote:
Really? I am from NC and that flag means heritage to me, nothing else. Wake up people. That is like a slap in the face to all OUR vets. We love the USA, but also owe a debt to our Southern forfathers, who gave their lives and homes for the cause. Not the cause of slavery, but for states rights. Slavery was the scapegoat for the War between the States. Heritage, not hate, that is what my Confedrate flag stand for.
Theres one thing people always forget to mention about slavery, per capita New York had more slaves than any other state in the south, so youre right it wasnt about slavery, if it was Lincoln would have declared war agains new york
Neek

Minneapolis, MN

#32 Mar 7, 2011
And what about the NAACP???
Are they not a nationally supported racist group?
Black Panthers at voting locations?!?!
Where's the outcry for that?!?!

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Since: Dec 10

Infinidox - infinite paradox

#33 Mar 7, 2011
Nice wrote:
<quoted text>A name like Terrence, sounds like, well, you know. And you are an idiot too. Long fly the flag
What flag?
Black Buck

Saint Paul, MN

#34 Mar 7, 2011
Neek wrote:
And what about the NAACP???
Are they not a nationally supported racist group?
Black Panthers at voting locations?!?!
Where's the outcry for that?!?!
Nah, the NAACP is not racist (they've had plenty of White members). By the way, what is the definition of "nationally supported?" Are you suggesting that the NAACP runs on taxpayer money?
Paula

Medford, OR

#35 Mar 10, 2011
Latest news...First Student fired him! He wasn't parking in a school parking lot, he was parking at the First Student bus lot which is leased from the school district by First student. It was the school district that complained and First Student caved! And the flag had "Redneck" written across it so it wasn't just a confederate flag flying behind his vehicle. Where’s that Foxworthy comedian when you need him? How is this different than having OBAMA –“One Big Ass Mistake America” or Gay pride or “I want you to speak English.” on the back of your car? I hope he sues, makes a ton of money from the school district and First Student. Then maybe these prima donnas will get off their high horses, stop thinking they know what’s best for all of us and quit trying to force their twisted ideas down our throats..
usmcsniper1

San Jose, CA

#36 Mar 10, 2011
Black Buck wrote:
<quoted text>Nah, the NAACP is not racist (they've had plenty of White members). By the way, what is the definition of "nationally supported?" Are you suggesting that the NAACP runs on taxpayer money?
Really white members in NAACP? Prove it! They are s racist group and should not be ashamed to admit the truth. "the truth shall set you free"...

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Since: Dec 10

Infinidox - infinite paradox

#37 Mar 10, 2011
On The Dole wrote:
<quoted text>
Perhaps as a driver, you should focus on the road and traffic, rather than the flags flying from vehicles.
If you love the flag so much why don't fly a huge flag from your car or pickup?
On The Dole

Medford, OR

#38 Mar 10, 2011
Terrence747 wrote:
<quoted text>
If you love the flag so much why don't fly a huge flag from your car or pickup?
NEVER said anything about "loving the flag?"
My point, for the intellectually challenged, is that this is still, even with Obama, America, aka The Land of the Free. One is allowed to express themselves with, or without your approval.
Black Buck

Saint Paul, MN

#39 Mar 13, 2011
usmcsniper1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Really white members in NAACP? Prove it! They are s racist group and should not be ashamed to admit the truth. "the truth shall set you free"...
If you're really interested, try googling "Henry Moskowitz."
Anonymous

Medford, OR

#40 Mar 15, 2011
I'm pretty sure I've seen this truck around-how many trucks have a full-sized flag on a four foot stantion in the back end of their pick-up?-rolled my eyes and thought, "Another Jethro heard from". Obviously this man will not be receiving invitations in thhe mail to join MENSA but I really somehow doubt that the man is flyiing it with the idea of expression his racial politics, whatever they may be. And how lame we might think it is to have the Dukes of Hazzard as your role models and the example of your highest ideals, let's look at some facts. The man has been driving bus in Pheonix/Talent which all us locals know is heavily Hispanic and the article has not reported any incident of racism atributed to this man in the four years he has been driving bus. He has been flying his flag for a year and a half and there has been up to this point no complaints. For all intents and purposes this appears to be a guy simply doing a job with all politics and philosophies aside. So a school administrator happens by, got their politically correct panties in a wad and use their clout to shut down someone with whom they don't agree. Well how swell, how truly American.

I also hope this man is able to bring a wrongful dismissal suit and win a big, fat retroactive pay compensation.
Brian

Waldorf, MD

#41 Mar 15, 2011
in the cold wrote:
if he parks his truck with the flag displayed at work, it's subject to the rules of that workplace - free speech doesn't apply.
if he doesn't park his truck with the flag displayed in his workplace, whatever he does with his own property is his own business - free speech applies.
so, if he covers up the flag while his truck is on work property, he'd be ok.
i don't see why he has a problem with this.
Totaly agree with you. It is his right to have a Confederate flag. He has Southern ties and ancestors who fought for the South in the Civil War. So what is the problem?

Btw, a lot of the people who whine about the Confederate flag don't even know what the flag truly represents and often do not know that the Civil War originally did not start over slavery.
Brian

Waldorf, MD

#42 Mar 15, 2011
Black Buck wrote:
<quoted text>
If you're really interested, try googling "Henry Moskowitz."
Sound Jewish to me.
Brian

Waldorf, MD

#43 Mar 15, 2011
Why are Black people allowed to publicly call White people devils and intimidate voters outside of voting booths? Why can't rappers be fired for their remarks and their imagery? Rappers do more psychological damage to kids and to Black people than Rebel flags.

Personally, I am getting fed up with Blacks and White Liberals constantly complaining about how racist White people and Southerners are. Honestly, they are the ones who bring up the race card and use race issues to get votes.
Ahmad flight 232

United States

#44 Mar 15, 2011
Liberals are loons, they tell us we most tolerate Muslims that want us dead yet not tolerate this history of this country.
Black Buck

Saint Paul, MN

#45 Mar 15, 2011
Brian wrote:
<quoted text>
Sound Jewish to me.
With the exception of the Beta Israel folks from Ethiopia and converts like Sammy Davis, Jr., Jews are Caucasian (i.e., White).

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Since: Jun 08

St. Paul, MN

#46 Mar 16, 2011
I may not agree with this driver's displaying his Confederate flag on the school bus company or school parking lots but it's in the bed of his personal truck not a bus. If his is not proselytizing anyone with his alleged viewpoints on the job or school then what's the problem? Otherwise, there must be more to this story if he was suspended for displaying his redneck[?] views.

Another example of political corrected gone amok.
usmcsniper1

Escalon, CA

#47 Mar 17, 2011
Black Buck wrote:
<quoted text>If you're really interested, try googling "Henry Moskowitz."
That's like saying KKK now accepting blacks in their ranks. I can just picture a black man underneath sheet screaming out loud:"white-power, "white-power.:.hail to the master race..." so much for me being accepted to NAACP.

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