#1537 Mar 5, 2014
Actually Kate and MckMama have a great deal in common.
Both apparently exaggerated their children's medical issues.
Both lied and deceived to get money and attention.
Both had a huge online presence and spent much time online.
MckMama causes more "outrage" because of her totally fake online life.
When she or her husband is arrested... she is talking about how amazing things are.
MckMama is selling "weight loss supplements" which is why the attacks on her weight.
She has clearly gained her weight back, yet she is selling these supplements. It's hypocritical.
MckMama is being sued by several people including her MIL.
Yet she spends all this money on things that are not needs... then goes to Africa.
MckMama has been arrested twice in 2014 already... yet continues on with life as normal.
She shows the opposite online as what is actually happening in real life.
THAT is what infuriates people about MckMama. Just the sheer BALLS she has to do all this.
With Kate the anger comes from being deceived and worry for the kids.
The people in this thread either know Kate or followed the kids situations closely.
The MckMama people are just crazy. Kate wanted to be MckMama, but she's extremely lucky that never happened.
#1538 Mar 5, 2014
Thanks for the insight, Danielle!
I knew some of those bits of info, but lots of that was new to me. There's no real "summary" that I've found on the McKmama drama, so much appreciated!
But here's my question: Does McKmama hurt anyone other than herself?
Did people send her donations like Kate? Or is it more of them giving her money by buying supplements from her?
Does she (allegedly) harm her kids or neglect them or anything like that?
I mean obviously, getting arrested and so forth, she's not mother of the year or an A1 citizen. And lying is obviously going to piss people off, but in an online setting, it usually doesn't hurt others per se. I guess it depends on what she's lying about. But I mean generally, if someone's lies on their blog bother you, you can just stop reading. Or you don't think her supplements work, don't buy them.
That's why I think I'm a bit befuddled on why there's so much outrage (enough to bug her in real life).
See that's where I think Kate really gets people.
If it was just a matter of money, I would be annoyed, but it's not the end of the world.
But neglecting or abusing your kids IS potentially the end of the world (for the child in question), so that's why I'm so personally invested in this. These are kids we grew to care about and it's known for a fact -- Kate's own words -- that she mistreated Bethany and Hannah ( http://thetruthaboutkpmomof789.wordpress.com/... ) and her care of Joshua and Bethany's medical care is also under investigation.
I guess I just don't know enough about McKmama to fully "get" the intense "go-after-you-in-real-lif e" anger.
Whatever the case, she seems to be self-destructing (with two arrests in 2014 and it's only the start of March!)
#1539 Mar 5, 2014
If I am not mistaken plenty of people donated to Mckmama also.
#1540 Mar 5, 2014
The people that make the phone calls are a very small minority of the group. They're not all crazy. A lot of the information that comes up there is easily accessible public information.
Many of her pictures get criticized because she's photoshopping herself skinny and then uses those photos to sell weight loss pills.
#1541 Mar 5, 2014
Madi, you can go online to mwop, on the right hand side in BLUE are some of the things that the McKinneyl have pulled. Yes, she did pull tons of money from everyone following Stellan. She had massive gift cards, hotel rooms, massages, meals, home cooked food, etc all in an effort to make her feel better and make her life easier. She had orange bracelets made and sold, however, most didn't ever get them. The gift cards and money went to refurnish her house...Hmmmm nice. She is being sued by everyone, well not everyone, but many and they lied to the bankruptcy trustee and he denied the BK. She will never be free of those bills she lied about because she can never file on those again. As time goes by, more and more business's are starting to sue. They didn't pay taxes for years. Their BK was for over $725,000.00. Right now, they are getting themselves into a bigger hole than ever and I expect they will try to file BK on the new purchases she keeps making eventually.
. They keep having each other arrested tho that may slow down as Israel finally had her arrested. She admitted a couple years ago that she pushes his buttons, and threw a chair at him before one DV arrest which caused his mother to have to live with them because they couldn't be in the same house alone. She let him take the blame. Now he is wising up.
For anyone interested mwop has the actual BK recording where you can hear them lie and stumble their way thru. There are several 911 calls both recordings and written out for clarity.
Mckfacts.com has started a new site when the old one was getting to be too much for the moderator and she is slowly adding all the info from mwop to the mckfacts sites. When you read all the things in blue on both sites, there won't be much doubt in your mind... It clearly spells out the person Mckmama is...
2 days after Stellans release from the Boston hospital and return to home completely healed with no further anticipated re occurrence of heart problems, they left him behind and took a family vacation with the other 3 kids.
All info on the sites is documented for anyone wanting to know. Some posters here are also on the other forums.
Carry on :)
#1542 Mar 5, 2014
Apparently it can vary, but it has been established the @ legacy Emmanuel you can bring Meds from home as long as the pharmacy checks them out
But thank you for your information about the hospital near you ... it is the same for the ones near me too... but Apparently not everywhere....
#1543 Mar 5, 2014
Sorry... I will buy you a box of crayons if it helps :P :)
I do try but some habits dye hard
#1544 Mar 5, 2014
Ok I stand corrected
#1545 Mar 5, 2014
I don't know about this. I have been skeptical of everything she wrote from day 1. I do think the kids had problems, but I went back and forth between thinking either she was exaggerating the hell out of it, or that she was making them sicker/overdrugging them/reporting fake stuff to the doctors who seemed to prescribe drugs/treatment without even seeing them. Every time she would say "This is it! Joshua is really going to die this time! Please pray that he makes it to xxx" (out of the hospital, Christmas, half birthday, birthday, Adam coming home, Adam's wedding, etc. etc. etc.) I would roll my eyes knowing full well that "miraculously" Joshua would indeed make it to that event, and beyond. Kate repeatedly said that he was going to die, but God could still heal him. I thought this was a setup to the eventuality that - guess what?- God healed him!!!!! I don't think she was going to (intentionally) kill him.(Bethany, however, is another story.)
#1546 Mar 5, 2014
Another fact about homeschooling: the nature of homeschooling allows for extended lengths of time off when the upheavals of life happen. I know of a local woman who had a tragedy happen (she never shared what it was, I didn't know her well enough at the time to ask questions) and their family took an entire year off of school. A year! They made sure to read every day, but that was it. Her children are right on target, and exceeding state standards, by graduation. One of her children was recruited by the Coast Guard Academy.
So, while I have no idea about what school would look like during normal life at the Parker house, I did want to share that even taking 2 years off wouldn't have lasting ill effects on the children. Most homeschoolers don't take summers off, or have long winter breaks. We go year round so we're always ahead of the game.
#1547 Mar 5, 2014
I heard Kate was Munchausen's by proxy
I always had red flags up ...
Kate throw me off CB (Blocked me)
I am lost for words
#1548 Mar 5, 2014
That's a very good point. My daughter was about 2 years ahead by the time all was said and done, simply because she moved at a quicker rate and didn't take summers off.
My only worry would be with younger kids like Kate's, as they could really lose lots of skills over a couple years with no real schooling.(Whereas once you're in your teens, you're solid in all the essentials.)
#1549 Mar 5, 2014
I read a bit more per your recommendations and I can definitely understand a bit better as to why she's pushing people's buttons. Definitely a lot of parallels with Kate, as one of the other posters highlighted.
Seems like she's made lots of bad decisions that are all crashing down around her, and it would appear it's all catching up with her.
I'll give it to her, though, she's a talented photographer! I came across her FB and she had some beautiful photos of her kids. Perhaps she should focus on that instead of storytelling, scamming and pushing supplements.:-)
#1550 Mar 5, 2014
Before all the jail time and bankruptcy mckmama was a photographer.
#1551 Mar 5, 2014
So if notonthebangwagon PHOTOGRAPHED the wedding I am a bit confused.
I figured that the pictures were just taken by somebody there, not a photographer.
Because the pictures on the officiators facebook are not "professional" quality.
So did they just have someone taking snapshots, or did they pay for those?
(Sorry, I am a photographer and that has bugged me since Adam and Faith got married. Lol) "
You were asking questions to clarify who took the photos? Really? I had already stated that I was the photographer of the wedding photo(s). If you were wondering if I was the wedding officiator and photographer you could have simply asked that question. You were being inflammatory and did not ask any questions. It is none of your business what my arrangements were with any of the Parker family or who made those arrangements with me. And no, I don't really care what you think of my photography skills. You are entitled to your opinion, as unsolicited as it may be and as irrelevant as it is to the topic at hand. Very unprofessional for a fellow photographer I may add. Also, may I just remind everyone that those photos do indeed have a copy write and unless you have written permission are not for you to publicize anywhere.
If you have a question it is much easier to simply ask a question.
#1553 Mar 6, 2014
The term is "copyright". If you're a photographer you should be familiar enough with it to know how to spell it. "Right" and "write" are two different words with 2 different meanings.
#1554 Mar 6, 2014
Autocorrect makes mistakes. Sue me. Have you nothing substantial to say?
#1555 Mar 6, 2014
I'm not an expert, but I think linking to the owner's posting of the photo is legal and doesn't violate copyright law.
Unless it's discovered that donated money (that was solicited for another purpose) was used to pay for the photographer's services, the subject of the pictures and who took them is irrelevant to this discussion. JMO.
#1556 Mar 6, 2014
You seem to know my twin sister. When our mom died, I did get a message to her via DHS in Josephine County. I confirmed. My phone number was given to Charley. Can you ask her to please call me?
#1557 Mar 6, 2014
You claim to be her brother, but you have no contact with them , except thru DHS?
I find this Questionable at best, sounds like fishing to me... or that your not on good terms and as such this could be unsolicited contact. Just saying
But in fairness who are you? I mean sure you claim to be this Kate's twin, but how can you back that statement? Sorry , you just show up here from time to time, and say random things.
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