Blaming Israel for carnage

Blaming Israel for carnage

There are 121858 comments on the Fort Worth Star-Telegram story from Jul 22, 2006, titled Blaming Israel for carnage. In it, Fort Worth Star-Telegram reports that:

Most media outlets aren't providing news of Israel's barbaric air raids on Lebanon with fairness and integrity.

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An NFL Fan

“Brevity is the soule of wit”

Since: May 09

USA

#111063 Oct 26, 2013
Gray wrote:
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STILL Nothing but simple minded, & fact free insults
Can't you Post ANYTHING else?
Ha! Hilarious a slug like you would think that he's somehow researching from racist backwoods web sites.
ArisePrincePeter

Liverpool, UK

#111064 Oct 26, 2013
An NFL Fan wrote:
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Ha! Hilarious a slug like you would think that he's somehow researching from racist backwoods web sites.
Was that laughter Ratty or a wail from Satan deep with your possessed soul? I think the latter sadly for you.

An NFL Fan

“Brevity is the soule of wit”

Since: May 09

USA

#111066 Oct 26, 2013
Arse PrincePeter wrote:
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No not a good enough response Ratty. Try again.
For example:
People hate Jews because their Jewish government order the murdering of children in the Palestinian areas.(Which ok I agree: not strictly ALL the blame on ALL Jews)
You peeked outside, didn't you, little man. Nervous?

An NFL Fan

“Brevity is the soule of wit”

Since: May 09

USA

#111067 Oct 26, 2013
Arse PrincePeter wrote:
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Was that laughter Ratty or a wail from Satan deep with your possessed soul? I think the latter sadly for you.
I enjoy the fact that you see demons, little man. However, the reality for you is parked down the block.

An NFL Fan

“Brevity is the soule of wit”

Since: May 09

USA

#111069 Oct 26, 2013
Arse PrincePeter wrote:
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Oh no Ratty the demons all with you freak racist Jew. Only a Jew who abuses Christ on a with it
Why do you worship a Jewish god, little sleepless man?
ArisePrincePeter

Liverpool, UK

#111070 Oct 26, 2013
An NFL Fan wrote:
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Why do you worship a Jewish god, little sleepless man?
You have a terrible odour problem right Ratty? I believe the thread is aware of this. Yes?

An NFL Fan

“Brevity is the soule of wit”

Since: May 09

USA

#111071 Oct 26, 2013
Arse PrincePeter wrote:
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You have a terrible odour problem right Ratty? I believe the thread is aware of this. Yes?
Running out of empty diatribes, little racist?
orion

Cape Town, South Africa

#111072 Oct 26, 2013
An NFL Fan wrote:
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'Forgery' is YOUR word, dull stooge. Now go play with your frightened Scouse buddy.
SCOUSE! Old Condom, your superior education finally got you the letter "S" (not SS, that the guys outside your door at the moment). You left a lot of them in between, which means you should go back to school (if they want you. They told me you were a delinquent there). LOL
orion

Cape Town, South Africa

#111073 Oct 26, 2013
An NFL Fan wrote:
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I enjoy the fact that you see demons, little man. However, the reality for you is parked down the block.
Same as you! You both seem to have the same problem but yours is a swastika! Not a nice portant of things to come...
orion

Cape Town, South Africa

#111074 Oct 26, 2013
Freedom wrote:
God Bless Israel
Impossible! God does not make mistakes.

An NFL Fan

“Brevity is the soule of wit”

Since: May 09

USA

#111075 Oct 26, 2013
orion wrote:
<quoted text> SCOUSE! Old Condom, your superior education finally got you the letter "S" (not SS, that the guys ack to school (if they want you. They told me you were a delinquent there). LOL
What are blithering about, fool?
nutjobs here

Israel

#111076 Oct 26, 2013
orion wrote:
Taking it from your interpretations of what you said regarding Dayan quote:
There were Arab villages
Those villages were spread all over the land
and there was not one place anywhere without an previous Arab settlement.
With the Rothchild's money jewish settlers could buy land from stupid Arab farmers, in the same way you can buy property in the South of France, which does not mean that you have the right to own France. Have you seen the film "The Zionist Factor" available on Youtube? It tells the real story of the conflict. And that is not pretty at all.
Once the first Jewish settlers were in the country, smart Jews screwed stupid Arabs and stupid Arabs retaliated against smart Jews as expected. Smart Jews had the cash and the influence and stupid Arabs were just a bunch of nonenties, colonial subjects of the Western power who had signed the land away with the Balfour declaration. Dayan's admission confirms that there was not "a land without people for a people without land". Anyway you want to twist it, you cannot get away from it, even though there were some Jews in Jerusalem, they were not the majority of the population. The new arrivals tilted the balance against the Arab population. It reminds me of the gardener pulling the weeds to protect its flower beds. There was no gardener in Palestine to protect the Arab flower from the incoming Jewish weeds and the weeds won. to be continued
Dayan implied that there were at one point in time Arab villages across much of the land.

Looked for the Zionist factor and couldn't find it. Give me a link so I can write a critique.
It is the Mandate for Palestine voted on by 52 countries of the League of Nations which gave Jews the right to the land. Same as numerous Mandates created countries including Jordan, Syria, Iraq etc.

So you are racist and consider Arabs stupid??

JEWS WERE A MAJORITY IN JERUSALEM SINCE THE 19TH CENTURY. and jews lived in Gaza West Bank and other cities such as Tiberias, Sefat.
orion

Cape Town, South Africa

#111077 Oct 26, 2013
An NFL Fan wrote:
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Does this mean you're angry with me, little racist slob? Have a peek out your window.
Latest news today...A newly trained unit of the Israeli police has been created with some 150 men to start with to kick the Beduins out of their ancestral land. The unit will be expanded as time goes by.(one must remember these are the equal citizen Nutjobs told us about with the same rights as Jewish Israelis. I wonder if concentration camps in the Negev will be erected for them?
orion

Cape Town, South Africa

#111078 Oct 26, 2013
An NFL Fan wrote:
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I's typical of an ignorant racist pig such as you to dump spam and call it an 'argument'. It's a common sign of stupidity.
Well Great Condom, he might be a racist pig, but he is not a kosher pig. Those are called Zebras in the kibbutzim.
nutjobs here

Israel

#111079 Oct 26, 2013
orion wrote:
continued
The Rabin quote
Clearly we could not leave an hostile and armed population in our rear. This is the same argument used by the Germans in the Warsaw Ghetto rising crushed by the Dirlewanger Brigade and elements of an SS Muslim division. Militarily it is correct both ways. The populations in Palestine did not have the means to defend themselves and were thrown onto the road, old people, men , women and children, without shelter or food in the middle of winter. Obviously they did not have a chance. But the MERE FACT THAT SOME 50 000 PEOPLE COULD BE KICKED OUT OF ONE TOWN PROVED THAT THEY LIVED IN THAT TOWN SINCE TIMES IMMEMORIAL. No land without people there.
"Everybody has to move, run and grab as many hilltops as they can to enlarge the settlements because everything we take will stay ours...Everything we don't grab will go to them."
Ariel Sharon, Israeli Foreign minister, addressing a meeting of militants from the extreme right-wing Tsomet Party, Agence France Presse, Nov.15 1998
Notice the word "grab". Nothing about payment there. Only theft and grand larceny.
Herzl comments
"When we OCCUPY the land..." Note the word occupy. An occupation means grabbing somebody else land which did not belong to us in the first place. If that land had belonged to us and we lost it, the word shoulb re-occupy. But Herzl used "occupy'..
Your comparisons show your hatred for Israel and bias against Jews.

The Nazis systematically took Jews from their own country and any country to conquered rounded them up and mostly massacred them.

The Palestine Arabs started massacring Jews from the beginning and than fought numerous wars trying to wipe out all the Jews of the land. They only succeeded in cleansing WB, Gaza and parts of Jerusalem of Jews.

SO ACCORDING TO YOUR LOGIC IF PEOPLE ARE KICKED OUT OF A TOWN THEY MUST HAVE LIVED THERE SINCE THE BEGINNING? Thought you were smarter than that? They could have arrived a couple of decades earlier, no?

As for the Sharon quote. There is a battle over land for decades between the Palestinians and Israelis. The Palestinians have continued to build throughout area A & B which are under their control and even area C which is under Israeli control. Not to mention E.Jerusalem areas where they are stealing land monthly.

The Israelis on the other hand have been pressured to stop building by most even though there is no legal basis for the green line. So basically there is a double standard where Jews cannot build but Arabs can. SO Sharon was making it clear that if they don't take over the hilltops (WHICH NO INDIVIDUALS LEGALLY OWN, MOST OF THE LAND IS NOT PRIVATELY OWNED), the Palestinians will.

Notice no mention of theft or grand larceny? so you decided to change the meaning of what he said to suit your agenda no surprise there.

Not sure what you can't understand the large majority of the land was not owned by private individuals. It was passed from Ottoman control-to British-to Mandate-to Israel. The Mandate is very clear about the British job to encourage Jewish immigration to state land.

The word occupy does not imply an occupation in the political sense. It just means that they are there. So you are trying to use words to prove some legal basis which doesn't exist.

Read the Geneva Convention definition of occupation. Has nothing to do with disputed territory.

MORE TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT. Herzl was referring to any land actually Argentina and this quote of his has nothing to do with W.Palestine.

SO YOUR ASSUMPTIONS ARE BASED ON QUOTES WHICH HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE SUBJECT. interesting how you try to use distorted quotes to make your point instead of actually focusing on international legalities which support what i claim.
nutjobs here

Israel

#111080 Oct 26, 2013
orion wrote:
Continued
As to Bibi, let us see what happen! He remind me of Nikita Krustchev (top leutenant of Kaganovitch and Yagoda in the mass murder of some 10 million Ukrainians in 1932) hammering his shoe on the table in the UN. Bibi made himself a total fool with his poster of alleged Iranian bombs. A moderate, do not make me laugh. Or course there might be some more mad guys on the extreme, but he is very near to them.
You stated that 25% of the Israeli population is non-Jewish. Add that to the 25% useless Hasidim, it means that in a crunch only 50% would stand on the firing line. Since that 50% is not breeding sufficiently to replace itself and hundred thousand of foreigners must be imported who do not like the way they are treated in Israel, the goose of the Jewish state could be could be cooked in the few decades. That is what Kissinger and 16 intelligence agencies in the US said. "There will not be an Israel in 2020".
"One million Arabs are not worth the grime under a Jewish fingernail"-Rabbi Yaacov Perrin Feb.27,1994
source NY Times Feb.28, 1994
A puzzle for you
"Who do you think has more right to Israel. You who has been living in a state which did not exist before 1948, or me who is not Jewish but whose ancestor on both side of the family can be traced to the Roman Empire, before the Khazar and Sephardic conversions. Who has more right to the land? "
So you call him an extremist with no evidence just your own opinion? Interesting how most of what you say are assumptions and when challenged you leave it as that with no rebuttal.

I don't just state. 25% of Israeli are non-JewishHassidim number 10%. Report today in Israeli newspaper Hareidi soldiers carry out more anti-terror acts than any other unit. Nice of you too make up more things but doesn't make them true.

When speaking of rights if you are speaking of legal rights ME.
If you are speaking of historic rights than ME.

not sure what you being from the Roman Empire has to do with anything as the Roman Empire was vast. Then you try to add the conversion BS. Which is just that BS. I can trace my family tree back thousands of years at least on my mothers side. and I come from a family of Cohanim which are easier to trace.

I know you would love to see the destruction of Israel.

I believe that the US administration is working towards that aim.
Who knows what will really happen but I do know that Israel will go down fighting and the world will be a dark place if it gets that far (not a threat just an observation). The world especially the so called free world is going backwards and dark times law ahead for everyone unless we fight for our freedom and representative democracy.
ArisePrincePeter

Liverpool, UK

#111081 Oct 26, 2013
An NFL Fan wrote:
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Running out of empty diatribes, little racist?
We have a thousand unpleasant descriptions of you: Christ-hater and blasphemer against the Messiah ... there's two and none 'racist' Ratty just very true. Why are you despised here Ratty?

"and ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall may you free." John 8.32
orion

Cape Town, South Africa

#111082 Oct 26, 2013
nutjobs here wrote:
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Dayan implied that there were at one point in time Arab villages across much of the land.
Looked for the Zionist factor and couldn't find it. Give me a link so I can write a critique.
It is the Mandate for Palestine voted on by 52 countries of the League of Nations which gave Jews the right to the land. Same as numerous Mandates created countries including Jordan, Syria, Iraq etc.
So you are racist and consider Arabs stupid??
JEWS WERE A MAJORITY IN JERUSALEM SINCE THE 19TH CENTURY. and jews lived in Gaza West Bank and other cities such as Tiberias, Sefat.
It does not matter what Dayan implied, it is what he said that counts. Of course there were Arab villages at ONE TIME that is until those Arabs got kicked out. Then there were no Arabs at all. Ain't that nice!
Please do not talk about the League of Nations a creation of the banksters who ruled those nations. Who gave the right to the so-called League of Nations to give the land of the Palestinian Arabs to foreign invaders who happened to be Jewish? The same principle would apply if they were Chinese or Papus or Eskimos. It is the principle which is wrong.
Did I say Zionist factor. Sorry it should be "The Zionist Story". I am not that good with the computer and do not subscribe to Youtube. It was e-mailed to me at the time.
Call me a racist, so be it. Whenever a Jew loses an argument, he will first attack the opponent personally, hoping to put him on the defensive. So names are invented like Nutzis, Fascists, racist, anti-semites, holohoax denier. And the sheeple on hearing those name shrink in their skins and crawl at the feet of the masters. I do not want to be called a racist, they say. Some of my best friends are Black (or Jewish, or Arabs, or whatever)!The thing of course has been overdone. With the passage of time and events in the world, those terms have become badges of honour, showing those who can still think with their heads. To repeat here the words of Adv. Sylvia Stolz, jailed in Germany for defending the Truth, where the Truth was declared as no defense:
"If only idiots dispute the Hoax, why are they punished?
Because more and more people realize that they are idiots!"
Of course the Arabs are stupid! With 450 million people and all the money in the world, the only thing they can do is to fight each other. That does not denote intelligence. May be they should read the Book of Esther (infiltrate , subvert, destroy) or Daniel and the Giant with feet of clay. Always read what your enemy reads. That is why in a way they deserve their fate.
nutjobs here

Israel

#111083 Oct 26, 2013
Gray wrote:
FLUSHING A HASBRAT/TRAITOROUS "ISRAEL FIRSTER"
Since "NFL Fan" is unable to compose an honest, informative rebuttal we must enlighten "Him/her/it" with proof of my earlier observation:
Israel drives US Policy to America's detriment:
“Israel's Netanyahu calls for tighter Iran sanctions”
http://news.yahoo.com/israels-netanyahu-calls...
EXCERPT “Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Tuesday called for sanctions on Iran to be strengthened to curb its atomic programme, which the Israeli leader said could lead to nuclear military abilities.” CONTINUED
Another example proving that Israel drives US Foreign policy to America's detriment:
“QUIETLY LOBBYING CONGRESS TO APPROVE THE USE OF FORCE IN IRAQ WAS ONE OF AIPAC’S SUCCESSES OVER THE PAST YEAR.” AIPAC Executive Director Howard Kohr; N.Y. SUN JAN.’03
“Facts and Quotations About How Zionists and Israelis Control America”
http://citizensfordemocracynj.org
"We control America"
"Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that ... I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it." .....Ariel Sharon
The Israeli driven, US fought (ongoing) Iraq War has cost America dearly in Blood and Resources, yet our infestation of traitorous "Israel Firsters" cheerlead for more anti Islamic carnage with American Blood.
Yet our "Israel Firsters" are using the same lies to push for hostilities against other Muslim countries.
Why is America so deeply mired in today's bloody, Mid East Quagmire:
“I don’t care if Americans think we’re running the news media, Hollywood, Wall Street or the government.  I just care that we get to keep running them.”         Joel Stein, Los Angeles Times, December 18, 2008.
Support America & Dump the Zionist Regime
Deporting our traitorous Zionist Propagandists would also be a nice touch!
Now, watch for the usual fact free, simple minded, Hasbrat insults!
Speaking of honest and informative.

The quote you post from Sharon was never said which has never stopped you from posting something.

It funny you attack other people and than continuously post false quotes to incite hatred against Jews. and you shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free.

The majority of the countries in the world don't want Iran to have nukes. This has nothing to do with Israel. America is loosing all its 'allies' as it is betraying them all one by one. In the region it would be Mubarak, Saudi Arabia, Israel, even the non-Shiite in Iraq, people of Afghanistan etc. The Sunni Arabs may end up making peace with Israel just to counteract Iran and US support.

Not sure what being Jewish has to do with being Israeli. Most American Jews have no connection to Israel especially the liberals in the Movie Industry.
nutjobs here

Israel

#111084 Oct 26, 2013
Gray wrote:
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STILL Nothing but simple minded, & fact free insults
Can't you Post ANYTHING else?
Oh, yes howling "Anti Semite" (Jew hater) is simply the desperate "White Flag" of a flushed Hasbarat*
You're just a tiny gang of pitiful bigots ("Chosen People = Master Race") and craven, War Mongering Propagandists for a reviled ZIONIST Regime (howl "Anti Semite here)
The rest of the educated world sees the Extremist Psycho-Settler, Zionist Apologists for what you are:
A recent BBC Poll confirmed that nowhere on the World Stage is there a more ruthless and internationally offensive bully than the Criminal Zionist State of Israel.
“Israel one of world’s most unpopular countries and it’s getting worse: BBC survey”
http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abuni...
“Israel is not only one of the world’s most negatively viewed countries, but its reputation is deteriorating, according to the BBC World Service’s latest global survey.”
As the Zionist State goes about its barbaric, US Funded Genocidal Agenda it still sustains significant losses from braver and more lightly armed Defensive Resistance Groups.
The World watched with delight as Hezbollah drove IDF's craven and pudgy pack of Kid Killers out of Lebanon leaving a trail of wreckage & discarded arms.
The chronically deceptive Bully, of course, cast its humiliation as a "victory" after intentionally slaughtering civilians during its post-truce massacre.
We've come to expect nothing but deception from a State founded on Lies, Genocide and Theft so additional thrashings of the Zionist Bully should come as no surprise.
The following are just a few censored losses of by an inept and cowardly Bully at the hands of a few outgunned, outnumbered victims of Relentless Zionist Genocide" CONTINUED
Now, howl "Anti Semite" really loud.......it's all you've got (Except for your Hasbara Handbook)
Gurgle,,,,gurgle.....
This BBC poll supports the claim that they are bias against Israel. The same as the internal study they did to see if they were bias. If has been years but they refuse to release any information on this study.

You are so blind by hatred you can't see anything it seems. Hizballah didn't win but IMO neither did Israel. Hizballah took years to recover, lost many troops etc and even Nazrallah said he would have never kidnapped the soldiers if he realized that Israel would retaliate.

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