Township puts Norlo Park under surveillance

There are 19 comments on the Public Opinion story from Dec 7, 2008, titled Township puts Norlo Park under surveillance. In it, Public Opinion reports that:

Guilford Township Supervisors will be keeping an eye on activity at the township park near Fayetteville.

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Another Voice in ur Head

Newville, PA

#41 Dec 8, 2008
Walt wrote:
<quoted text>The surveillance system will not, cannot, prevent crime. What's the estimated response time from when someone, which has not been revealed who, observes the activity and dispatches police to the park? That is an unknown in the equation isn't it? To start, the news article did not reveal where the information the camera(s) see is sent and who will watch PC screens for illicit activity. You see, there are loose ends and until the dots are connected so you, and others, can fully understand how the proposed system is to work, it remains, at best, flakey. Yet, township leaders are apparently going to hand the consultant a bundle without a comprehensive plan.
If you'll re-read what I wrote more carefully, you'll see I never said it would PREVENT crime, just make the ones who commit it pay. Nothing really prevents crime except the thought of the potential consequences. If they don't get caught, they can't face consequences, therefore crime will run rampant. How often do police just wander up and discover a crime in commission? More often they are called after the deed is finished, and being able to see who committed the crime will help them catch the perpetrators. Video, even if not observed 24/7, can do that.
Hilda

Philadelphia, PA

#42 Dec 8, 2008
Fayetteville Resident wrote:
I for one am thankful for the sacrifices of previous generations that had the foresight to preserve lands for National Parks and State Parks. If we don't do the same (on a much smaller scale) future generations in Franklin Co. will be growing up in an "urban jungle". How sad that would be. It is also sad to see parks that have been neglected and not cared for so I am thankful that Norlo is being so well maintained. Needs vs. wants can be debated forever but once the land is gone, it's gone.
Could not agree more! Thank you Guilford township.

“Don't tread on me!”

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

#43 Dec 8, 2008
shotglass wrote:
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All I can say is that the rest of us are glad you have no actual power to implement your ideas.
I'm just saying that what many people consider to be "needs" are really "wants".
Fayette NAM resident

Shippensburg, PA

#44 Dec 8, 2008
I used to live in Fayetteville; however, during the past few years it has turned into Fayette NAM !!! A lot of criminals are living there. I moved out a few months ago...it seemed as if a State Police car was in the NAM at least once a night for some type of domestic violence incident, gun shots heard, thefts......my neighbor had 4 DUIs in the last 3 years....and he constantly beat up his wife....and the thing about the insurance rates being higher in Fayette NAM....well that's true
shadow

Mount Laurel, NJ

#45 Dec 8, 2008
Walt wrote:
<quoted text>To start, the news article did not reveal where the information the camera(s) see is sent and who will watch PC screens for illicit activity. You see, there are loose ends and until the dots are connected so you, and others, can fully understand how the proposed system is to work, it remains, at best, flakey.
If the system is anything like we have at work, the system is either monitored 24/7 by a security company, who can then contact Guilford Township employees and/or the State Police, or it can be accessed by the township supervisors (or whom ever is given access) 24/7 to view the live feed video. The system most likely will keep a recording for a set amount of time so a history is available in case of an incident.
qwerty

Philadelphia, PA

#46 Dec 8, 2008
jtb_hypocrite wrote:
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I'm just saying that what many people consider to be "needs" are really "wants".
What you are "just saying" is negative and argumentative and so typical of almost all the comments you make on this and many other threads. The fact that you consistently choose to disagree with others, tells me much about your character. Christians should be the happiest people in the world. I don't see that in you. Maybe you should consider a break from topix, till you can readjust your focus and turn your attitude around.

Is there anything that makes you happy?
Gomer

Carlisle, PA

#47 Dec 8, 2008
qwerty wrote:
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What you are "just saying" is negative and argumentative and so typical of almost all the comments you make on this and many other threads. The fact that you consistently choose to disagree with others, tells me much about your character. Christians should be the happiest people in the world. I don't see that in you. Maybe you should consider a break from topix, till you can readjust your focus and turn your attitude around.
Is there anything that makes you happy?
Criticism and complaint - those cover well over 90% of what The Hypocrite has to say.

I've met other people like that - if they couldn't criticize someone or complain about something they'd simply have nothing to say.
giorgio

Philadelphia, PA

#48 Dec 8, 2008
Al Bundy wrote:
Fayetteville Resident--Your response is farcical. Why should the rest of the township and county pay for your security and property values?
Yes Siree--big crime wave out there in Fayetteville. Did somebody steal another sunflower plant or a .25 cent candy bar?
EXCUSE ME!!!!!!!! but somebody stole a John McCain sign!!!!!!!! the sunflower plant is still there !!!!!!!!
TellMe

Barnegat, NJ

#49 Dec 8, 2008
jtb_hypocrite wrote:
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I'm just saying that what many people consider to be "needs" are really "wants".
I call them necessities and niceties.
giorgio

Philadelphia, PA

#50 Dec 8, 2008
Fayette NAM resident wrote:
I used to live in Fayetteville; however, during the past few years it has turned into Fayette NAM !!! A lot of criminals are living there. I moved out a few months ago...it seemed as if a State Police car was in the NAM at least once a night for some type of domestic violence incident, gun shots heard, thefts......my neighbor had 4 DUIs in the last 3 years....and he constantly beat up his wife....and the thing about the insurance rates being higher in Fayette NAM....well that's true
EXCUSE ME!!!!!!!! but i guess fayetteville is known as the ''HOOD''now more like the ''BRONX''??? or Oakland,Cali???????
Fayette NAM resident

Carlisle, PA

#51 Dec 9, 2008
EXCUSE ME!!!!!! it is now known atw Fayette NAM
single and free

Carlisle, PA

#52 Dec 9, 2008
giorgio you are nothing but a snot nose little spoiled brat that needs a real lesson in life...and as for a earlier statement you made to me..i am a high school graduate who has a good paying job and own my home,,i don't have to depend on my mommy to take me somewhere cause i OWN more than one car....time for you to grow up...maybe mommy and daddy should take away your computer privileges for at least a year

“Don't tread on me!”

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

#53 Dec 9, 2008
Fayette NAM resident wrote:
I used to live in Fayetteville; however, during the past few years it has turned into Fayette NAM !!! A lot of criminals are living there. I moved out a few months ago...it seemed as if a State Police car was in the NAM at least once a night for some type of domestic violence incident, gun shots heard, thefts......my neighbor had 4 DUIs in the last 3 years....and he constantly beat up his wife....and the thing about the insurance rates being higher in Fayette NAM....well that's true
I checked the child predator roles or something like that for the area...

And there were a number of those people living on main street in fayetteville.
TellMeWhy

Barnegat, NJ

#54 Dec 9, 2008
jtb_hypocrite wrote:
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I checked the child predator roles or something like that for the area...
And there were a number of those people living on main street in fayetteville.
jtb, I didn't know you lived in Fayetteville. Smile for the cameras.
MRRO

Bear, DE

#55 Dec 9, 2008
jtb_hypocrite wrote:
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I checked the child predator roles or something like that for the area...
And there were a number of those people living on main street in fayetteville.
I checked this site -
http://www.familywatchdog.us/
Tell us what site you checked.
Are You Happy

Greencastle, PA

#56 Dec 9, 2008
jtb_hypocrite wrote:
I can't disagree that it is a very nice park and many people use it.
But the fact remains, it was not needed, it was wanted.
The word "depression" is being thrown around these days.
The difference between the depression of the 30's and the (so-called) depression of the current time is this:
in the 30's needs were going unmet
Today, it is the "wants" which may go unmet.
If we are serious about financial restraint,(which no one in Washington is serious), the wants have to go, in lieu of the needs.
jtb
I don't understand how someone can proclaim to be God fearing, but yet seem so unhappy. God is a happy God and he is a God of Love. He wants his people to be happy, but yet by reading your posts, you give the impression that you are not truly happy or content with your life.
I may be wrong, but anyone who contantly finds fault with what other people say or do, is not truly happy.
Are you an older person who has had some pretty hard knocks in life that has left you bitter? If that is the case you need to let go. Life is what we make it and living in negatively is not healty and will eat up any happiness for the future.
I am not truly to be a smart a-s-s. I just feel sad for people who are going thru life miserable. I was in a bad situation at one time, but was able to let go and believe me it is so much nicer to try to look at life in a positive way.
As for the park, in a sense it is a necessity. It is a nice place for caring families to take their children. These families may not be able to afford to go to the movies or places like Hershey's Park because of tough times, but yet they can spend quality time with their children at Norlo Park. It is much better than having the kids sit in front of the TV all the time watching the negative junk that is on, or play the violent mind altering video games that a lot of kids play.
If my tax money would help kids have a happy, fullfilly life while growing up, then I would say it is money well spent.
Try to smile at strangers and do little thoughtful thing for other people, and this can bring inner happiness. Let go of the negativity. Show other posters that you can have some compassion, unless you are just a hard headed, cold hearted person, that many think you are
Tanker1

Chambersburg, PA

#58 Mar 14, 2009
I personally think with the amount of property available at Norlow and the surrounding area growing as it is, a venue such as Post Gazette or Merriweather Post would have been a better choice.

Since: Feb 09

Feels Like Heaven

#59 Mar 14, 2009
jtb_hypocrite wrote:
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Tax dollars should be spent on needs, not wants.
The park, while very nice, is a want and not a need.
But as long as governmental people are spending someone else's money, it's easy to willy-nilly spend away.
What category does a 500 million $ embassy fit into?
Carlisle Native

Beverly Hills, CA

#60 Mar 14, 2009
giorgio wrote:
<quoted text>EXCUSE ME!!!!!!!! but i guess fayetteville is known as the ''HOOD''now more like the ''BRONX''??? or Oakland,Cali???????
Ignorant you. We in California NEVER call it Cali, which is a city/region in Colombia.

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