Pa. beer sales at center of court case

Full story: The York Daily Record

The Wegman's supermarket in Mechanicsburg can sell six-packs of beer for now. It's at the center of a Pennsylvania Supreme Court case, likely to be decided next year, that pits the state's beer distributors against several chains of supermarkets.
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The Lager Lad

Palmyra, NJ

#62 Nov 24, 2009
Bill wrote:
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Question, if the local distributors can not compete either through pricing or services then why SHOULDN'T they go out of business?? After all that is PURE capitalism. Propping up a failing business makes no sense at all.
Bill
Well, there is a distinct disadvantage for the small business man over large corporations.

Let's imagine that I'm an owner of a small widget store. I can only sell 100 widgets a day. The big box widget store moves in down the street and can sell 1000 widgets a day. I may provide better customer service but there's no way I can compete since I don't have the buying power against the guy down the street.

Just something to think about.
the same Zingers hmmm

Felton, PA

#63 Nov 24, 2009
Now I hear Zingers is a fun place . I know someone who plays in a band there at times. And they don't remind of the type of person to hang out in a bar like the one poster described. I have been invited there to hear them play. But have never taken them up on the invite.
Nota Taj Mahal

Myerstown, PA

#64 Nov 24, 2009
Lager Lad you are on the right track. If I am the small widget Store(beer) and can only sell widgets I can't compete with the large widget store that can sell soup to nuts. It is not an even playing field. It seems to me the rules favor the big boys. The old saying he who has the gold rules. Time for a change, but lets make it fair for everyone.
Bill

Topton, PA

#65 Nov 25, 2009
Nota Taj Mahal wrote:
Lager Lad you are on the right track. If I am the small widget Store(beer) and can only sell widgets I can't compete with the large widget store that can sell soup to nuts. It is not an even playing field. It seems to me the rules favor the big boys. The old saying he who has the gold rules. Time for a change, but lets make it fair for everyone.
And how do you propose to 'make it fair for everyone'??? How do you think the large widget stores got big in the first place??? They started out small like everyone else and provided goods and services at prices people would buy at.

Bill
Bill

Topton, PA

#66 Nov 25, 2009
The Lager Lad wrote:
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Well, there is a distinct disadvantage for the small business man over large corporations.
Let's imagine that I'm an owner of a small widget store. I can only sell 100 widgets a day. The big box widget store moves in down the street and can sell 1000 widgets a day. I may provide better customer service but there's no way I can compete since I don't have the buying power against the guy down the street.
Just something to think about.


If you are selling only a hundred widgets a day and someone else is selling a thousand then they will succeed and you will not unless you figure out how to tap the 1000 widget a day buyers. It's not always about price but it is about value. The 1000 a day widget buyers want it at a certain price, it has 'value' to them at that price. If the market will support selling a 1000 a day at the 100 a day price then you would be selling a 1000 not a 100 so for the remaining 900 customers there was no value.

That is capitalism at it's finest, leveling the playing field to correct some perceived 'wrong' with the market is socialism.

Bill
Haywood Jablomy

Philadelphia, PA

#67 Nov 25, 2009
Bill wrote:
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If you are selling only a hundred widgets a day and someone else is selling a thousand then they will succeed and you will not unless you figure out how to tap the 1000 widget a day buyers. It's not always about price but it is about value. The 1000 a day widget buyers want it at a certain price, it has 'value' to them at that price. If the market will support selling a 1000 a day at the 100 a day price then you would be selling a 1000 not a 100 so for the remaining 900 customers there was no value.
That is capitalism at it's finest, leveling the playing field to correct some perceived 'wrong' with the market is socialism.
Bill
I agree with Bill. This is the reason I hate ALL politicians, not just politicians of a particular party. None of them are actually for capitalism and the free market. Need proof, just look at the corporate bailouts that George W. Bush started at the end of his second term and Barack Obama has seamlessly picked up on and followed through where Bush left off. They're both exactly the same. They both belong to the same club of elitists who don't care at all about anyone but other elitists. And that's just one example.
Nota Taj Mahal

Myerstown, PA

#68 Nov 25, 2009
Bill, My point about being fair is that Wegman's is allowed to sell what ever they want to and sell beer. But if I understand correctly, present beer distributors can only sell beer and some chips and slim jims.
Bill

Topton, PA

#71 Nov 30, 2009
Nota Taj Mahal wrote:
Bill, My point about being fair is that Wegman's is allowed to sell what ever they want to and sell beer. But if I understand correctly, present beer distributors can only sell beer and some chips and slim jims.
In that case if they allowed regular stores to sell beer then beer stores SHOULD be allowed to sell anything they want as long as they have the appropriate business licensing and follow safe handling routines, not that I agree with needing a business license to sell something but at the current time one is required to sell to the public. If there is a law against a beer store selling non-beer items it should be repealed.

Bill

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