Pa. beer sales at center of court case

Pa. beer sales at center of court case

There are 68 comments on the The York Daily Record story from Nov 21, 2009, titled Pa. beer sales at center of court case. In it, The York Daily Record reports that:

The Wegman's supermarket in Mechanicsburg can sell six-packs of beer for now. It's at the center of a Pennsylvania Supreme Court case, likely to be decided next year, that pits the state's beer distributors against several chains of supermarkets.

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Dark Ages

Philadelphia, PA

#1 Nov 21, 2009
Bottom line, as per purchase of alcohol, PA is living in the times of one week after Prohibition was shot down.

Newville, PA

#2 Nov 22, 2009
Idiotic laws and PA go together like beer and pizza. Being former military I have lived all over the U.S. in my 43 years, and I must say that this state's laws - and not just the alcohol laws - beat all I have ever seen. This state is notorious for spending too much money to send too many legislators to Harrisburg to pass too many unenforceable laws with too few enforcement officials to even attempt to enforce those laws.

Newville, PA

#3 Nov 22, 2009
Oh, and I love the part about the "tradition of the neighborhood bar". What a flimsy excuse!

York, PA

#4 Nov 22, 2009
What country do we live in?

Geneva, NY

#5 Nov 22, 2009
If you think that once the big box stores get the option to sell things they now can't (like beer) things won't change, think again! Inevitably the retail landscape will change, and in many instances radically. Is this a bad thing? Maybe, maybe not, but you had better believe that some existing businesses will be pushed out of existence. You have a choice now, but once the egg is dropped you will never get it together again. Be sure of what you ask for because you will surely get it!

Oh, one of the things you will get is higher alcohol abuse statistics. Don't believe that? Well take a look at what has happened in Europe where the supermarkets have used alcohol as a loss leader. Things have gotten so bad that they are contemplating bringing back minimum pricing to stop the huge increase in alcoholic drink related social problems. Every change PA makes will have good and bad consequences. Be careful on this one. In 15 years you may wish you never did it, but then it will be too late to go back.

Pittston, PA

#6 Nov 22, 2009
Here is a union everyone should be bashing, but instead let's save it for Harley. Pa has some of the highest taxes on alcohol and how much of it goes to subsidize the state stores? Your tax dollars hard at work. People will drive drunk no matter where they buy their booze, it's a fact of life!
gorilla gaurd

Columbia, SC

#7 Nov 22, 2009
Yes, soon we'll see Pennsylvanians making pruno in their closets.

Beer and wine sales have been taking place in supermarkets all over the country for years. Some state allow hard liquor in supermarkets as well. People come to Pennsylvania and scratch their heads about where to buy and then get an explanation from a local.

Emmaus, PA

#8 Nov 22, 2009
What happened to government for the people, by the people? This should be put to a vote and let the PEOPLE decide. I for one am for the disbanding of the idiotic PLCB! I have to run to one or more "STATE STORES" to find the wine of my choice, then to a distributor for a case of beer and then to a bar to get just a six pack!!!! It's absolutely ridiculous!
Answer Man

Seymour, IN

#9 Nov 22, 2009
"You've got a friend in Pennsylvania"

we want all the revenue from selling alcohol..we try to to get you to drink before you get home....just hoping to bust your sorry a**... perhaps you could purchase some lottery tickets or go to one of our state operated casino's...

look...just keep paying your taxes..keep drinkin &gamblin & just try to find a job here ! we are very employer friendly!
this is why

Felton, PA

#10 Nov 22, 2009
Food Lion at their registers have a petition to sign pro store beer sales. I signed it.

Port Huron, MI

#11 Nov 22, 2009
Just run those local distributors out of business. What the hell. Nobody cared when Walmart and Home Depot ran the little guy out.

Johnson City, TN

#12 Nov 22, 2009
Mr VanZant, the "neighborhood bar" isn't going to become extinct as you put it. The bars and taverns in NY state survive just fine with six pack sales in supermarkets. I don't want, nor do I need an entire case of beer that lasts me over a year. Its time PA updates its outdated laws.

NuYakker - have you looked at statistics regarding alcohol abuse here domestically with beer sales permitted in supermarkets? Compare apples to apples, not apples to potatoes.

Fishers, IN

#13 Nov 22, 2009
The end of the neighborhood bar ? What flaming
liberal (__*__) came up with that ? As If there
are no bars In Florida ! This clown should be sent
to Gitmo and shot.

Oops forgot, the usurper with no birth certificate
closed Gitmo.

Delta, PA

#14 Nov 22, 2009
The PLCB is a joke! u go to any other state and any alcohol is cheaper than PA! As far as "the neighborhood bar", I think that depends on the area/population. My relatives in VA can buy beer at the grocery store or drink beer in any restuarant, but there are no bars anywhere close and even the local VFW's and American Legions do not serve alcohol. PA will never change its laws, but they will keep raising our taxes. I've lived here 35 years, but working on moving ASAP! Might as well just call it little Baltimore!
Pity Party

Indianapolis, IN

#15 Nov 22, 2009
Everyone pity the poor distributers.Mr.Van Zant
is only worried about earning less money.I once
overheard Mr.Van Zant telling another distributer,
if he had known how much money was to be made in the business he would have been in it years sooner.
Which is what capitalism is all about. Now someone else wants some of his pie and he maybe forced to lower prices. Neighorhood bars dissapearing? Come
on Van Zant. We do get around in this world! There is room for everyone. You made your fortune and are worried you might not be able to make another.
Free Beer

Lemoyne, PA

#16 Nov 22, 2009
I Red Lion really a dry town? Someone inform the Red Lion Tavern and the Lion's Den.

Dallastown is dry.

Jackson, MI

#17 Nov 22, 2009
pa has the dumbest laws.. Its about taxes and greed!
S in York Township

York, PA

#18 Nov 22, 2009
Can't understand why Republican leaders in the state legislature don't repeal this mess. They are (allegedly) for de-regulation. I too loved the "neighborhood bar" excuse. That explains why all the states who sell in stores don't have ANY neighborhood bars. Puh-lease!
I am all for some sort of reasonable guidelines, no "loss-lead" pricing for example, but PA is the joke of the world in sales of beer, wine and liquor without too much beyond high prices to show for it.
Free the beer from the tyranny of the state!

York, PA

#19 Nov 22, 2009
Outdated LAW!Shame on PA for complying to horse and buggy
doctrine(no offense to those still riding in carriage)
As much tax that is put on alcoholic beverages in this
State,they should have drive thru service.You shouldnt
even have to get out of the car!This is how simple it
could be,but,not in PA,no....Its to simple for our
organized,modern,state government.

York, PA

#20 Nov 22, 2009
Free Beer wrote:
I Red Lion really a dry town? Someone inform the Red Lion Tavern and the Lion's Den.
Dallastown is dry.
Dallastown isnt dry,Shrewsbury is dry.

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