LVC grads move on

There are 17 comments on the Lebanon Daily News story from May 15, 2010, titled LVC grads move on. In it, Lebanon Daily News reports that:

A journey for three young women that began on North Eighth Street in Lebanon ended on a brilliantly sunny, breezy spring Saturday in the heart of Lebanon Valley College's campus.

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So if you dont work

Lebanon, PA

#1 May 16, 2010
your kids get a free ride to school. But hard working people who are just trying to make a life and are supporting their kids either can't send their kids or they incur thousands of dollars in debt. The system stinks. Why not give this free money to people who paid into the system not free riders. My kids can't get free money because their parents both work, maybe not collecting 6 figures, but just because we are working and have an income makes them eligible for nothing free. Go figure. Congratulations to being born to lazy parents. Remember to thank them.
catpaw

Lebanon, PA

#2 May 16, 2010
So if you dont work wrote:
your kids get a free ride to school. But hard working people who are just trying to make a life and are supporting their kids either can't send their kids or they incur thousands of dollars in debt. The system stinks. Why not give this free money to people who paid into the system not free riders. My kids can't get free money because their parents both work, maybe not collecting 6 figures, but just because we are working and have an income makes them eligible for nothing free. Go figure. Congratulations to being born to lazy parents. Remember to thank them.
These girls did not get a "free ride". They were mentored. The LVC offers the same financial help to any student, regardless of family income, as long as they are in the top 10% of their class.
Check it out. Your kids may be eligible if they work hard and are good students.
Assclown

Harrisburg, PA

#3 May 16, 2010
So if you dont work wrote:
your kids get a free ride to school. But hard working people who are just trying to make a life and are supporting their kids either can't send their kids or they incur thousands of dollars in debt. The system stinks. Why not give this free money to people who paid into the system not free riders. My kids can't get free money because their parents both work, maybe not collecting 6 figures, but just because we are working and have an income makes them eligible for nothing free. Go figure. Congratulations to being born to lazy parents. Remember to thank them.
You are such an ingnorant prick. Why don't you try looking at this program from the children's point of view -- why should they be prevented from going to college because their parents don't make enough money? And it's not a "free ride." It only covers tuition so they have to pay for books and room and board if they decide to live at LVC. And after being identified in 7TH GRADE they must maintain good grades throughout high school and meet other requirements. If your kids work hard, get good enough grades and actually look around, they will be able to find financial assistance. But, I'm sure they're like you and would rather just have it handed to them. Get a life.
thomas paine

Lancaster, PA

#4 May 16, 2010
I wished they would have had a program like this when I went to school.
Education

Lebanon, PA

#5 May 16, 2010
Don't kid yourself thomas paine, you would have failed out.

“Tito”

Since: Sep 08

Lebanon, PA

#6 May 16, 2010
I also will be benefiting from the Lebanon Valley Education Partnership Program in the fall. I was selected in the 7th grade and have maintained over a 3.5 GPA in my 4 years of high school. I am now in the top 5% of my class and am doing wonderfully. I know these girls who are now graduating from LVC from school and I think that it's horrible that you're undermining their efforts in this way. They have had this extra benefit but have worked hard to get to where they are. It isn't as if this scholarship is given to people who don't care about education. These girls have worked hard. Don't you dare undermine their efforts by saying that the only reason why they're graduating is because their parents made little money. They worked HARD to get to where they are now. You're ridiculous.

“Tito”

Since: Sep 08

Lebanon, PA

#7 May 16, 2010
Amanda's family, for example, is a very hardworking family and her mother is a great person. The fact that they are disadvantaged in a sense doesn't mean that they are free riders as you called them. You're so ridiculous. I can't even comprehend your logic, to be honest. There are full rides given to students for athletic purposes, and that's great, but sometimes these students don't emphasize as much as they could or should in terms of their academics, and NO ONE ever seems to complain about that because the scholarships have been earned. These students earned, through their hard work, all of these scholarships by maintaining high GPA's and being mentored for 5 years (through grade 7 - 12), and you're sitting here degrading their efforts. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Just Me

Lebanon, PA

#8 May 16, 2010
Tvaldes wrote:
Amanda's family, for example, is a very hardworking family and her mother is a great person. The fact that they are disadvantaged in a sense doesn't mean that they are free riders as you called them. You're so ridiculous. I can't even comprehend your logic, to be honest. There are full rides given to students for athletic purposes, and that's great, but sometimes these students don't emphasize as much as they could or should in terms of their academics, and NO ONE ever seems to complain about that because the scholarships have been earned. These students earned, through their hard work, all of these scholarships by maintaining high GPA's and being mentored for 5 years (through grade 7 - 12), and you're sitting here degrading their efforts. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Nobody is degrading their efforts.You just don't want to see it from anyone elses point of view.I know some girls who qualified for this(they never attended because the family has since moved from the area.)The reason they qualified,other than their grades was because their fat,lazy mother CHOSE not to work.So someone like my child who qualified for the 50% off of her tuition for being in the top 10% of her class,still has to come up with the other $15,000 per year,just because she has 2 parents that actually work for a living,choosing not to live off the system.So this is the reason for all the resentment you see.Some who were born into the system manage to get everything handed to them,while those who work hard aren't afforded the same opportunities.So you need not take it so personally.I wish you the best,just try to understand where other peoples opinions come from.

“Tito”

Since: Sep 08

Lebanon, PA

#10 May 16, 2010
Nothing is being HANDED to them, that is the point that is being made here. This isn't a scholarship based on race, or anything along those lines. This is based on financial need, of course, but without doing well academically, you do not benefit from this scholarship at all. They did work hard for it. It is an academic scholarship whether you want to accept that or not.

“Tito”

Since: Sep 08

Lebanon, PA

#9 May 16, 2010
Just Me wrote:
<quoted text>Nobody is degrading their efforts.You just don't want to see it from anyone elses point of view.I know some girls who qualified for this(they never attended because the family has since moved from the area.)The reason they qualified,other than their grades was because their fat,lazy mother CHOSE not to work.So someone like my child who qualified for the 50% off of her tuition for being in the top 10% of her class,still has to come up with the other $15,000 per year,just because she has 2 parents that actually work for a living,choosing not to live off the system.So this is the reason for all the resentment you see.Some who were born into the system manage to get everything handed to them,while those who work hard aren't afforded the same opportunities.So you need not take it so personally.I wish you the best,just try to understand where other peoples opinions come from.
You are degrading them because you congratulated them for being born to lazy parents and this is not the case. The person that needs to see things from another perspective is you. Instead of being so hateful because your daughter or son didn't qualify for this kind of a scholarship, be proud that there is still so much potential in Lebanon County and from the Lebanon School District in particular. Our reputation is less than flattering and it's because of people that do nothing but antagonize and demean the efforts of the students that do care about their education and do want to succeed in life. I will take it personally because I'm a part of the partnership and my parents are not by any means lazy and I have contributed to the system as a taxpayer. While still in high school, in the top 5% of my class, in several clubs including the National Honor Society, Future Business Leaders of America, and serving as Vice President of Lebanon High School's Debate Team, I'm also juggling a part time job. Unless you can defend your point at the very beginning of this thread as you're sitting there at your computer, I don't think a response is necessary from you at this point and in this regard. You were degrading and highly offensive to these girls who have worked hard to get to where they are by saying that they are only graduating because their parents are lazy. Stop being so hateful!
Just Me

Lebanon, PA

#11 May 16, 2010
Tvaldes wrote:
<quoted text>
You are degrading them because you congratulated them for being born to lazy parents and this is not the case. The person that needs to see things from another perspective is you. Instead of being so hateful because your daughter or son didn't qualify for this kind of a scholarship, be proud that there is still so much potential in Lebanon County and from the Lebanon School District in particular. Our reputation is less than flattering and it's because of people that do nothing but antagonize and demean the efforts of the students that do care about their education and do want to succeed in life. I will take it personally because I'm a part of the partnership and my parents are not by any means lazy and I have contributed to the system as a taxpayer. While still in high school, in the top 5% of my class, in several clubs including the National Honor Society, Future Business Leaders of America, and serving as Vice President of Lebanon High School's Debate Team, I'm also juggling a part time job. Unless you can defend your point at the very beginning of this thread as you're sitting there at your computer, I don't think a response is necessary from you at this point and in this regard. You were degrading and highly offensive to these girls who have worked hard to get to where they are by saying that they are only graduating because their parents are lazy. Stop being so hateful!
I am not the poster at the beginning of this thread,I didn't congratulate the girls for having lazy parents.Actually,I didn't address the situation of these girls at all.I don't know the their personnal circumstances.What I said is that I personally know of a family that qualified,because their able-bodied mother chose not to work,therefore makimg them eligable financially.I did not say any of these children aren't deserving,I'm just ageeing with the first poster that things don't exactly shake out fairly when those of us who work hard and sacrifice for our children have to go deeply in debt to provide the same opportunities for our children.Sometimes I wonder why I chose to work for a living at all.
Just Me

Lebanon, PA

#12 May 16, 2010
Tvaldes wrote:
Nothing is being HANDED to them, that is the point that is being made here. This isn't a scholarship based on race, or anything along those lines. This is based on financial need, of course, but without doing well academically, you do not benefit from this scholarship at all. They did work hard for it. It is an academic scholarship whether you want to accept that or not.
Didn't say it was based on race.The family I know involved in this scholarship is the same race as me.Didn't say it wasn't an academic scholarship.Didn't say the students didn't work hard for it.So lets try a different approach.You tell me if you think it is fair for children who would qualify for the same scholarship academically to be denied the samme opportunity because financially they don't qualify?

“Tito”

Since: Sep 08

Lebanon, PA

#13 May 16, 2010
Just Me wrote:
<quoted text>Didn't say it was based on race.The family I know involved in this scholarship is the same race as me.Didn't say it wasn't an academic scholarship.Didn't say the students didn't work hard for it.So lets try a different approach.You tell me if you think it is fair for children who would qualify for the same scholarship academically to be denied the samme opportunity because financially they don't qualify?
I thought you were the first poster, excuse me. Regardless, if one of the elements of the scholarship is financial need, I think it's fair. The people that created this scholarship are the ones that outlined the elements were and are to benefit from it. It might not seem fair to the people that aren't eligible to benefit from it, but it certainly isn't the fault of students that do benefit from it or of the parents. I don't agree with the first person because she was degrading their efforts and mine as well since I am a student that will be benefiting from the same scholarship as these girls.
Wow

Lebanon, PA

#14 May 16, 2010
Just Me wrote:
<quoted text>I am not the poster at the beginning of this thread,I didn't congratulate the girls for having lazy parents.Actually,I didn't address the situation of these girls at all.I don't know the their personnal circumstances.What I said is that I personally know of a family that qualified,because their able-bodied mother chose not to work,therefore makimg them eligable financially.I did not say any of these children aren't deserving,I'm just ageeing with the first poster that things don't exactly shake out fairly when those of us who work hard and sacrifice for our children have to go deeply in debt to provide the same opportunities for our children.Sometimes I wonder why I chose to work for a living at all.
I see your point of view -- I could have written this post myself. I know of someone who is fully able to work, but has been taking advantage of the 'system' for a while now. This person is just plain ***lazy*** and seems to feel a sense of entitlement in the benefits received from the government.

“Tito”

Since: Sep 08

Lebanon, PA

#15 May 16, 2010
This scholarship isn't taxpayer funded. It's a scholarship that's made available through the continued efforts of people at an annual golf tournament. It has nothing to do with the government, in the same way that LVC, a private school, has nothing to do with the government.
Wow

Lebanon, PA

#16 May 17, 2010
Tvaldes wrote:
This scholarship isn't taxpayer funded. It's a scholarship that's made available through the continued efforts of people at an annual golf tournament. It has nothing to do with the government, in the same way that LVC, a private school, has nothing to do with the government.
I know, I was just commenting to the post which I quoted.
I wish you well in your college career, Tvaldes!

“Tito”

Since: Sep 08

Lebanon, PA

#17 May 18, 2010
Thanks.

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