Need apartment that accepts my pitbull

Need apartment that accepts my pitbull

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Firefighter

Dallas, TX

#1 Apr 18, 2009
I'm looking for a nice apartment or townhome for rent in the area that will accept my pitbull puppy. She's gentle as a fly, and housebroken. I'm very willing to set up a meet for my dog and the owner of the property to show her good manners. Please don't use this as an opportunity to flame the breed, as they are great companions and clowns at heart.
NoWai

Richardson, TX

#2 Apr 19, 2009
Sorry Firefighter. I don't care how well trained and 'gentle' you say a pit-bull is, it's in their blood to potentially be killers. I have personal experience as a neighbor's pitbull attacked a family member recently. This dog was well trained, loved, gentle, and everything you say...however it snapped, and almost cost a loved-one dearly.

Please don't move to McKinney with that dog.

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Firefighter

San Antonio, TX

#3 Apr 19, 2009
I already live in Mckinney for starters. Two you are just showing your ignorance in your post. To say an animal has "killer" in their blood is moronic and I want you to show me one shred of evidence that supports what you are saying. Like I said move on.
goinincircles

United States

#4 Apr 19, 2009
Dont own a pit bull and probably never will(partial to the boxer breed). To say that a pit bull has it in their blood to be a "killer" is a typical response from mis-informed people. Dogs,much like people, turn out much the way they do as a direct result of their upbringing. If a dog is brought up to not respect people and is abused then the ability to injure someone is obviously greater than one that is brought up in a responsible manner. With people,a lack of respect is formed as they are reared at an early age. These are the ones that I worry about much more than a pit bull because I'm much more likely to have to deal with them at some point in my life than a pissed off pit bull hell bent on being the "killer" that people believe him to be. If I encounter either one intent on doing me harm and I take the appropriate action does that mean that I will then be labeled as I had it in my blood to potentially be a killer? If you,NoWai, encounter either are you prepared to take action or are you prepared to have someone call to clean up the mess that's been made because you've read and believed left winged liberals that are there to protect you and your loved ones because you aren't responsible enough to take care of yourself? Hmmm....when I re-read this, not sure how I connected the two or why....oh well.....I ramble sometimes. Firefighter--if you look about 8 miles to the east,there are a ton of reasonably priced (nice)homes available....probably cheaper than a nice apt. in mckinney. You may not want to deal with yard work though and your job may require that you live in city limits...don't know.
Either way....good luck on your search and thanks for the work you do if your "handle" is indicative of your occupation.
dogbitestudy

Lewisville, TX

#5 Apr 19, 2009
The deadliest dogs
Merritt Clifton, editor of Animal People, has conducted an unusually detailed study of dog bites from 1982 to the present.(Clifton, Dog attack deaths and maimings, U.S. & Canada, September 1982 to November 13, 2006; click here to read it.) The Clifton study show the number of serious canine-inflicted injuries by breed. The author's observations about the breeds and generally how to deal with the dangerous dog problem are enlightening.

According to the Clifton study, pit bulls, Rottweilers, Presa Canarios and their mixes are responsible for 74% of attacks that were included in the study, 68% of the attacks upon children, 82% of the attacks upon adults, 65% of the deaths, and 68% of the maimings. In more than two-thirds of the cases included in the study, the life-threatening or fatal attack was apparently the first known dangerous behavior by the animal in question. Clifton states:

If almost any other dog has a bad moment, someone may get bitten, but will not be maimed for life or killed, and the actuarial risk is accordingly reasonable. If a pit bull terrier or a Rottweiler has a bad moment, often someone is maimed or killed--and that has now created off-the-chart actuarial risk, for which the dogs as well as their victims are paying the price.

Clifton's opinions are as interesting as his statistics. For example, he says, "Pit bulls and Rottweilers are accordingly dogs who not only must be handled with special precautions, but also must be regulated with special requirements appropriate to the risk they may pose to the public and other animals, if they are to be kept at all.

Since: Apr 09

McKinney, TX

#6 Apr 19, 2009
Good find there dogbitestudy.

Sadly enough, I posted on a very similar topic several days back on another forum.

http://mckinneyconnection.com/phpbb3/viewtopi...
Firefighter

San Antonio, TX

#7 Apr 20, 2009
http://www.badrap.org/rescue/myths.cfm
If you want to take the time to actually learn something about the breed other than what the media feeds you, or what you heard from friends the information is out there. Or you can choose to remain in the dark. The choice is yours.
face to palm

Mckinney, TX

#8 Apr 20, 2009
OMG...what is the title of this post? What was his question? Stick to topic please- don't think these forums were put here for trolls to attack people.
dofbitestudy

United States

#9 Apr 20, 2009
Here's one that's not just some guys opinion:

http://www.dogsbite.org/dangerous-dogs-pitbul...

"It's the owner not the breed
Poor ownership of a pit bull may exacerbate aggressive tendencies, but the pit bull is still an innately aggressive breed. Pit bulls have been selectively bred since the 1800s for the purposes of fighting and continue to be bred for fighting today. US courts agree that the following breed characteristics of pit bulls are not in dispute: robust strength, unpredictability, tenaciousness (the refusal to give up a fight) and high pain tolerance.2
Perpetuators of this myth also cannot account for the many instances in which responsible pit bull owners are victimized by their dogs. In 2007, pit bull type dogs were responsible for 60% of attacks that led to fatality. Half of these attacks involved a family member and the family pit bull."

"Pit bulls are animal-aggressive, not people-aggressive
Historically, it is believed that dogfighters removed people-aggressive dogs from the gene pool. If this is true, there is no indication that these same selective pressures are still in operation. Fatality statistics over the past 20-years continue to reflect a high number of pit bulls killing people. News stories flourish about pit bulls breaking free of their property and attacking children and the elderly. These victims did not have pets with them, nor were they provoking the dog before the attack.
Pit bull advocates who propagate this myth refuse to admit that both traits are unacceptable. It is not "okay" that pit bulls are animal-aggressive. Due to this genetic trait, pit bulls frequently maim and kill our pets. In many instances, owners of these pets get injured trying to stop the attack. While some attacks might start from animal aggression, they can quickly lead to human aggression.
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"Pit bulls are not unpredictable
Pit bulls frequently attack without provocation or warning. As a fighting breed, pit bulls were bred to conceal warning signals before an attack. For instance, they rarely growl, bear their teeth or issue a stare before they strike. They are also disrespectful of traditional signs of submission and appeasement.6
Pit bulls are also liars. Randall Lockwood, a senior vice president to the American Society of the Prevention of Cruelty for Animals (ASPCA), shares the following story in a law enforcement training video:

"Fighting dogs lie all the time. I experienced it first hand when I was investigating three pit bulls that killed a little boy in Georgia. When I went up to do an initial evaluation of the dog's behavior. The dog came up to the front of the fence, gave me a nice little tail wag and a "play bow" -- a little solicitation, a little greeting. As I got closer, he lunged for my face."

"My pit bull is a sweetheart
According to a study done by the Tufts Center for Animals and Public Policy, pit bull owners use a variety of strategies to lessen the stigma attached to owning a negatively perceived dog. One of the strategies is to emphasize counter-stereotypical behavior. For instance, to offset the popular idea that pit bulls are fierce and predatory, respondents in the study voiced just the opposite: "My dog is the biggest sweetheart in the world."
Other strategies used to combat the pit bull stigma included, trying to pass their dogs off as other breeds, denying that their behavior is genetically determined, discrediting unfavorable media coverage, using humor, avoiding stereotypical gear or accessories, taking preventive measures, or becoming "breed ambassadors."
dofbitestudy

United States

#10 Apr 20, 2009
Go look here at the dead people and kids killed by Pit Bulls in 2007.
http://www.dogsbite.org/bite-fatalities-2007....

22 dead from Pit Bull and Pit Bull mixes. 60% of the fatalities of all breeds. This is what you find when you actually take the time to learn about Pitt Bulls.
Firefighter

San Antonio, TX

#11 Apr 20, 2009
If you look at the website you can clearly see it is very biased. Good luck with your witch hunt. You pull all of your information off of one site clearly on the offensive against the breed. If you actually read any of the slander you posted you could see this..... Now move on troll.
OHagan 200

Houston, TX

#12 Apr 20, 2009
Seriously, guys. I hate pit bulls just as much as the next guy but the dude just wants a place to live.

Firefighter, you might not have much luck with the traditional home rentals through agencies. You should check Craig's List, though. There are a ton of non-MLS rentals on there who might allow pits.

Also: I saw a home for rent "by owner" on the corner of Community and Bois d'Arc. You might swing by and get their number. I'll try and remember to write it down next time I drive that direction.
dogbitestudy

Lewisville, TX

#13 Apr 20, 2009
Hey TROLL,

There is no bias when it comes to the people who are DEAD, and that's just 2007 statististics. Those are the FACTS, but I guess your "opinion" counts more than the documented fatalities.
Smokeater

Irving, TX

#14 Jun 23, 2009
Have you seen the documented deaths from goldens. yorkies, and cocker spaniels as well? I guess they should all be banned as well??
TT Watts

Dallas, TX

#15 Jun 23, 2009
I have a huge wang.

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#16 Jun 24, 2009
&fe ature=related

This is not typical animal behavior.
Bitz

Arlington, TX

#17 Nov 24, 2009
I'm sorry, NoWai, but this post is so narrow-minded of you. Pitbulls do NOT just "snap" as you say, and go after someone, or something. I've been raising pitbulls for nearly 10 years and have never had one be even slightly aggressive. It's all in how you raise them. It's just stupid people like you who give these wonderful dogs a bad name. Please never move to Dallas with your prejudiced attitude.
NoWai wrote:
Sorry Firefighter. I don't care how well trained and 'gentle' you say a pit-bull is, it's in their blood to potentially be killers. I have personal experience as a neighbor's pitbull attacked a family member recently. This dog was well trained, loved, gentle, and everything you say...however it snapped, and almost cost a loved-one dearly.
Please don't move to McKinney with that dog.
Groper

Garland, TX

#19 Nov 24, 2009
TT Watts wrote:
I have a huge wang.
This blog is about pitbulls and cops, numbnuts.
RickDeesNutz

Mckinney, TX

#20 Nov 28, 2009
Whether pit bulls are any crazier than any other dog really is irrelevant. I personally think it's the owners that make the dog and that most owners who want to train a "badass" dog are partial to pitbulls. THe problem is, a lab isn't going to be able to kill me, a pitbull could.

Having pitbulls, or really dogs off leash and not under full control of an owner is like allowing people to own guns that literally had a mind of their own.
homer

Dallas, TX

#21 Jan 1, 2010
WTF kind of BS is that? A lab can't kill you? You realize labs are bigger than apbt right? And who said anything about having them offleash

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