Cops can't stop street violence...SUR...

Cops can't stop street violence...SURPRISE!!! (NOT)

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Sick and tired

Pittsburgh, PA

#1 Jul 13, 2012
Once a year , as noted elsewhere by someone else, people go around this town and make a big ta do about stopping the street violence.

How can we expect the cops to do that when they cant even enforce the traffic and "common sense" laws?

I am talking about things like running red lights, civil unrest and such.

My favorite traffic issue: People parking in front of stop signs, making intersections dangerous.

I live in a neighborhood where the people who live in a certain house feel its their God-given right to park in front of the stop sign. This makes the 4 -way intersection a very dangerous one since the car coming to that stop sign has to stop in the middle of the road, and the oncoming traffic often runs the stop sign THEY have.....many have responded by simply slowing and then going thru the blocked sign so as to not be sitting ducks.

Well, police cant be everywhere, you say.

True. But seeing as a cop lives 3 or 4 doors down from this situation (the squad car is parked there almost every day), how can this dangerous situation go unnoticed day after day.

I know someone who lives in Haler Heights (where apparently all the cops live) and he said that speeders and sign runners and people clogging up the streets with cars is an every day occurrence. Sort of makes the "traffic laws strictly enforced" signs seem downright dumb, since nothing is EVER enforced.

Or another favorite - how about when you call them for help...say someone is threatening you with physical harm...and the cops show up, let that person go and then try and convince you that pressing charges is a waste of everyone's time and that it will go no where if you stand up for your right to not be harassed.

So I ask you....if the cops that live there don't take their "protect and serve" jobs seriously enough to enforce common sense and traffic law violations that are literally steps away from their own front door in the "good" parts of town, how can we expect these same cops to curtail drug and gun activity on the "bad" side of the city?

I say -- if you are a city cop, you should have to live in the BAD parts of town...make them LIVE with the issues at home too....maybe things could get done then...of course, with the traffic examples above, maybe it wouldn't even matter.
Sick and tired

Pittsburgh, PA

#2 Jul 13, 2012
LOL Someone already "judged" it as "spam" and "clueless" yet had no balls to post a (real) message stating why they feel that way.

Yeah.....wanting our cops to do their jobs is spam/clueless.

Gotta LOVE Topix trolls.

Azzhats.
Gentle Reader

Monessen, PA

#4 Jul 13, 2012
Sick and tired wrote:
LOL Someone already "judged" it as "spam" and "clueless" yet had no balls to post a (real) message stating why they feel that way.
Yeah.....wanting our cops to do their jobs is spam/clueless.
Gotta LOVE Topix trolls.
Azzhats.
You are correct. There are those on this forum that bait posters that are making an honest attempt at discussing serious issues. Ignore it. You make many valid points.
Clueless

United States

#5 Jul 13, 2012
Two Street Star wrote:
An some fckn a-hole want me to help raise money at my local waterin hole an get one of the more useless ones "JG" a vest? So he can arrest me for bullsht when I leave? How bout I just pull down my pants bend over an grease up my a- hole to!!
You should bend over......a dictionary and learn to spell. Stop drinking and driving you worthless wonder. Noone would bother you if you were an upright citizen.
lester freeman

Monessen, PA

#6 Jul 13, 2012
where you at fawcett plan?
Sick and tired wrote:
Once a year , as noted elsewhere by someone else, people go around this town and make a big ta do about stopping the street violence.
How can we expect the cops to do that when they cant even enforce the traffic and "common sense" laws?
I am talking about things like running red lights, civil unrest and such.
My favorite traffic issue: People parking in front of stop signs, making intersections dangerous.
I live in a neighborhood where the people who live in a certain house feel its their God-given right to park in front of the stop sign. This makes the 4 -way intersection a very dangerous one since the car coming to that stop sign has to stop in the middle of the road, and the oncoming traffic often runs the stop sign THEY have.....many have responded by simply slowing and then going thru the blocked sign so as to not be sitting ducks.
Well, police cant be everywhere, you say.
True. But seeing as a cop lives 3 or 4 doors down from this situation (the squad car is parked there almost every day), how can this dangerous situation go unnoticed day after day.
I know someone who lives in Haler Heights (where apparently all the cops live) and he said that speeders and sign runners and people clogging up the streets with cars is an every day occurrence. Sort of makes the "traffic laws strictly enforced" signs seem downright dumb, since nothing is EVER enforced.
Or another favorite - how about when you call them for help...say someone is threatening you with physical harm...and the cops show up, let that person go and then try and convince you that pressing charges is a waste of everyone's time and that it will go no where if you stand up for your right to not be harassed.
So I ask you....if the cops that live there don't take their "protect and serve" jobs seriously enough to enforce common sense and traffic law violations that are literally steps away from their own front door in the "good" parts of town, how can we expect these same cops to curtail drug and gun activity on the "bad" side of the city?
I say -- if you are a city cop, you should have to live in the BAD parts of town...make them LIVE with the issues at home too....maybe things could get done then...of course, with the traffic examples above, maybe it wouldn't even matter.
Eddie

Pittsburgh, PA

#7 Jul 13, 2012
Look. The police try to keep us safe, and I feel they are doing a great job. Stopping the violence? That's up to us as parents. Raise your kid the right way, and teach him right from wrong.

Also, this vigil in Crawford Village Wednesday night? Granted it's all well and good, but, the ones attending the vigil/rally aren't the bad ones. The ones that need to go, are the thugs. I'm not sure if this thing actually helps. The ones attending aren't the problem.

Black people need to raise their children better, know where they are, who they are with, and what they are doing. It's not my job to raise your child. As a white man who gets along with everyone- I am sick of criminal activity being blamed on us, being blamed on the city of McKeesport, blamed on the police, blamed on the mayor, etc..... People- take responsibility
Mark

Glassport, PA

#8 Jul 14, 2012
I think every one of you should be arrested, along with everybody else in McKeesport for living there.
Praying

United States

#9 Jul 14, 2012
Well Mark has a good point, we are all to blame for letting the.destruction continue. But the sad truth is you don't realize how bad it is until they take one of yours. I was under the assumption that living right getting educated and staying away from the drama would keep me out of harms way. I now relize the truth is they can take any one at any time. I used to make excuse for why people got killed drugs,money,hanging with the wrong crowd,ect. I needed to believe there was some imaginary set of rules that if we followed them we would be safe. I now feel the pain that so many before me felt and fear this cycle will continue until every family is hurt. So what to do hide, impossible, run someone will surely be left behind. I think back on all the people mudered in Mckeesport and cant even rember a third of the names. I rember Kimberly I believe it was 1998 and now Andre 2012. 14 years I was in denial
Third offense expunged

Irwin, PA

#10 Jul 19, 2012
http://tinyurl.com/DUI-JohnE-mckeesport-solic...

Did someone pull beer cans out of the SUV? The officer on duty smelled alchohol on his breath. The officer on the scene heard John Jason Elash say he had been drinking. The admission was to the paramedics on the seen, officer witness.
Sheriff Shameless

Mckeesport, PA

#11 Jul 19, 2012
Third offense expunged wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/DUI-JohnE-m ckeesport-solicitor
Did someone pull beer cans out of the SUV? The officer on duty smelled alchohol on his breath. The officer on the scene heard John Jason Elash say he had been drinking. The admission was to the paramedics on the seen, officer witness.
Also, rumor has it that he wanted the officers to call a local District Judge to help him out.

That just illustrates that he is in own world.
Third offense expunged

Irwin, PA

#12 Jul 19, 2012
Mark wrote:
I think every one of you should be arrested, along with everybody else in McKeesport for living there.
http://tinyurl.com/DUI-JohnE-mckeesport-solic...
Cloudy meatball chances

Irwin, PA

#13 Jul 19, 2012
Praying wrote:
Well Mark has a good point, we are all to blame for letting the.destruction continue. But the sad truth is you don't realize how bad it is until they take one of yours. I was under the assumption that living right getting educated and staying away from the drama would keep me out of harms way. I now relize the truth is they can take any one at any time. I used to make excuse for why people got killed drugs,money,hanging with the wrong crowd,ect. I needed to believe there was some imaginary set of rules that if we followed them we would be safe. I now feel the pain that so many before me felt and fear this cycle will continue until every family is hurt. So what to do hide, impossible, run someone will surely be left behind. I think back on all the people mudered in Mckeesport and cant even rember a third of the names. I rember Kimberly I believe it was 1998 and now Andre 2012. 14 years I was in denial
Are you 15-17 years old?
Cloudy meatball chances

Irwin, PA

#14 Jul 19, 2012
Sheriff Shameless wrote:
<quoted text>
Also, rumor has it that he wanted the officers to call a local District Judge to help him out.
That just illustrates that he is in own world.
CCD Baby gets a chance to lie to jail mates. The child will get education for protecting shady practices.
Not surprised

Pittsburgh, PA

#15 Jul 27, 2012
What are they doing?
dic-tionary

West Mifflin, PA

#16 Jul 28, 2012
Clueless wrote:
<quoted text>
You should bend over......a dictionary and learn to spell. Stop drinking and driving you worthless wonder. Noone would bother you if you were an upright citizen.
No-one is two words asshat 8^)
Fabu

New Brighton, PA

#17 Jul 28, 2012
No surprise at all.
Hey

New Brighton, PA

#18 Jul 29, 2012
Did they solve the garage shooting by the LaRosa Boys and Girls Club yet?
http://www.wtae.com/news/local/allegheny/Man-...
H Irish Plumber

Pittsburgh, PA

#19 Aug 2, 2012
Sick and tired wrote:
Once a year , as noted elsewhere by someone else, people go around this town and make a big ta do about stopping the street violence.
How can we expect the cops to do that when they cant even enforce the traffic and "common sense" laws?
I am talking about things like running red lights, civil unrest and such.
My favorite traffic issue: People parking in front of stop signs, making intersections dangerous.
I live in a neighborhood where the people who live in a certain house feel its their God-given right to park in front of the stop sign. This makes the 4 -way intersection a very dangerous one since the car coming to that stop sign has to stop in the middle of the road, and the oncoming traffic often runs the stop sign THEY have.....many have responded by simply slowing and then going thru the blocked sign so as to not be sitting ducks.
Well, police cant be everywhere, you say.
True. But seeing as a cop lives 3 or 4 doors down from this situation (the squad car is parked there almost every day), how can this dangerous situation go unnoticed day after day.
I know someone who lives in Haler Heights (where apparently all the cops live) and he said that speeders and sign runners and people clogging up the streets with cars is an every day occurrence. Sort of makes the "traffic laws strictly enforced" signs seem downright dumb, since nothing is EVER enforced.
Or another favorite - how about when you call them for help...say someone is threatening you with physical harm...and the cops show up, let that person go and then try and convince you that pressing charges is a waste of everyone's time and that it will go no where if you stand up for your right to not be harassed.
So I ask you....if the cops that live there don't take their "protect and serve" jobs seriously enough to enforce common sense and traffic law violations that are literally steps away from their own front door in the "good" parts of town, how can we expect these same cops to curtail drug and gun activity on the "bad" side of the city?
I say -- if you are a city cop, you should have to live in the BAD parts of town...make them LIVE with the issues at home too....maybe things could get done then...of course, with the traffic examples above, maybe it wouldn't even matter.
McKeesport is getting a cleaning currently.
Two time

West Mifflin, PA

#20 Aug 8, 2012
Praying wrote:
Well Mark has a good point, we are all to blame for letting the.destruction continue. But the sad truth is you don't realize how bad it is until they take one of yours. I was under the assumption that living right getting educated and staying away from the drama would keep me out of harms way. I now relize the truth is they can take any one at any time. I used to make excuse for why people got killed drugs,money,hanging with the wrong crowd,ect. I needed to believe there was some imaginary set of rules that if we followed them we would be safe. I now feel the pain that so many before me felt and fear this cycle will continue until every family is hurt. So what to do hide, impossible, run someone will surely be left behind. I think back on all the people mudered in Mckeesport and cant even rember a third of the names. I rember Kimberly I believe it was 1998 and now Andre 2012. 14 years I was in denial
Sorry you went through that.
Confucius Say

Mckeesport, PA

#21 Aug 8, 2012
Street and any violence can always be terminated with a well aimed bullet.

Once a bullet hits and enters its intended target, violence is abruptly terminated with a DOA.

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